MasterMason
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Can anyone explain to me how t3 works and how to cycle it properly?
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T3 is a thyroid drug to alter your metabolism for fat loss. It can be extremely catabolic and eat your muscle away, so it is something I don't ever advise. There are much better options for fat loss like GW, Albuterol, and the ECA stack
Chicken Shakes
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You are better off learning about a new drug by researching it directly to sources that get really in depth on the subject. Not that there are not individuals on here or other forums who arent knowledgable , but there is a shit ton of info and you need to spend time learning . A member here on the forum may leave out a detail or the original info from a medical website may degrade as it passes from forum to forum.
If you are going to use this drug then learn about how thyroid works in general, spend time reading about t3,t4, reverse t3 etc. Read up on thyroid rebound. Also always a big question is, if I use t3 will my thyroid return to normal? It seems the answer is yes to that question but for your own benefit are you gonna take my word on that?? There is alot of info if you google it. Plus once you start reading up you will learn more about your body and how it works which is really important.
Dieting for a long time can cause your metabolism to slow down. Basically your thyroid will slow. T3 is made in the thyroid.T3 used by itself will eat muscle. T3 used with AAS (min. 250mg/wk) will help you keep muscle. Some report a "flat" look. Others swear by it. First time users should go no higher than 50mcg. This is very important.... if you are eating like shit and use t3 as a crutch you are doing very bad... Get your diet where it needs to be. Diet and train and FIRST lose fat this way. Then when you stop losing fat, cant do anymore cardio than what you are doing already and cant cut anymore calories, thats when you introduce the drug and only then. Thats when your thyroid decides to slow. But like I said, its best to read up on the drug on the medical websites and float around and read people experiences and compare what they say to the medical stuff you read .
If you are going to use this drug then learn about how thyroid works in general, spend time reading about t3,t4, reverse t3 etc. Read up on thyroid rebound. Also always a big question is, if I use t3 will my thyroid return to normal? It seems the answer is yes to that question but for your own benefit are you gonna take my word on that?? There is alot of info if you google it. Plus once you start reading up you will learn more about your body and how it works which is really important.
Dieting for a long time can cause your metabolism to slow down. Basically your thyroid will slow. T3 is made in the thyroid.T3 used by itself will eat muscle. T3 used with AAS (min. 250mg/wk) will help you keep muscle. Some report a "flat" look. Others swear by it. First time users should go no higher than 50mcg. This is very important.... if you are eating like shit and use t3 as a crutch you are doing very bad... Get your diet where it needs to be. Diet and train and FIRST lose fat this way. Then when you stop losing fat, cant do anymore cardio than what you are doing already and cant cut anymore calories, thats when you introduce the drug and only then. Thats when your thyroid decides to slow. But like I said, its best to read up on the drug on the medical websites and float around and read people experiences and compare what they say to the medical stuff you read .
Yep. Decent drug if used right don't need to dose high or anything. Using it by itself would be real bad. Need to be on some type of gear at a fairly high dose to make catabolism impossible.
Also need your diet to be insanely high in protein. Basically take all steps to preserve muscle tissue.
25mcg is where I would start. You may rebound real hard off it too. Unless you're trying to get crazy lean I'd advise against it. If it's used right I have no issues with it.
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Also need your diet to be insanely high in protein. Basically take all steps to preserve muscle tissue.
25mcg is where I would start. You may rebound real hard off it too. Unless you're trying to get crazy lean I'd advise against it. If it's used right I have no issues with it.
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Jake
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Yeah I think that is a fair assesment. I personlly do not care for it.
MasterMason
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So if you guys had to compare the effectiveness of GW vs t3 how would they stack up
Chicken Shakes
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Never did GW but the go to cut that most do is something like t3 and/or clen along with AAS. To me that says that t3 is better and may be cheaper too.
GW is far safer and easier to handle. I don't like how people consider t3 to be totally muscle wasting. Dont get me wrong I have no business with it and wanna keep it that way, but like I said if done right it can be good for the user.
Its not for the inexperienced thats for sure.
Its not for the inexperienced thats for sure.
Ya man you gotta run a shitload of gear and eat a crap ton of protein t get rid of that feeling. How much did you run. Anything over 25mcg or 50mcg is just overkill in my opinion. If you need that much fucking t3 something is fundamentally wrong in you're diet or training. That or its not legit t3 I experimented with some t3 and t4 XENO gave me out of his personal stash. Shit was crazy strong. Only ran 25mcg of the t3 and 100mcg of t4. Like weight falls off over night.
rockmfhudd
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GW all the way traveling man
She probably rebounded and is double her starting weight lol.
Ya man I didnt get the tweaker feeling at all but it ripped weight off me like nobodies business. I agree diet and cardio should realy take cae of most youre needs. The one I havnt tried yet though is albuterol. I will try it soon but its supposed to be good.
MACPHARMACIST
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Avoid. Catabolic if used improperly & could seriously affect your thyroid function over the long term.
Chicken Shakes
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Under normal thyroid function you will produce about 25mcg a day. So if you supplement with 25 mcg its not 25 + 25= 50. Your own production stops so at 25 mcg you are replacing. For some people this may not be the case but for most it is. Starting at 25mcg is the best bet and if you handle it well bump up to 50mcg.
Most people do not report screwing up their thyroid function. There is a medical study done and it was found that a large group of people were placed on T3 in error. Some people for decades some for just weeks. They took everyone off the drug and their normal thyroid function returned within 2 weeks.
I have copied the summary from Karl Hoffmann's article below:
"In 1951, Greer reported the pattern of recovery of thyroid function after stopping suppressive treatment with thyroid hormone in euthyroid [normal] subjects based on sequential measurements of their thyroidal uptake of radioiodine. He observed that after withdrawal of exogenous thyroid therapy, thyroid function, in terms of radioiodine uptake, returned to normal in most subjects within two weeks. He further observed that thyroid function returned as rapidly in those subjects whose glands had been depressed by several years of thyroid medication as it did in those whose gland had been depressed for only a few days" (3)
These results have been subsequently verified in several studies.(3)(4) So contrary to what has been stated in the bodybuilding literature, there is no evidence that long term thyroid supplementation will somehow damage your thyroid gland. Nevertheless, most bodybuilders will choose to cycle their T3 (or T4 which in most cases works just as well) as part of a cutting strategy, since T3 is catabolic with respect to muscle just as it is with fat. As previously mentioned, long term T3 induced hyperthyroidism is also catabolic to bone as well as muscle.
Most people do not report screwing up their thyroid function. There is a medical study done and it was found that a large group of people were placed on T3 in error. Some people for decades some for just weeks. They took everyone off the drug and their normal thyroid function returned within 2 weeks.
I have copied the summary from Karl Hoffmann's article below:
"In 1951, Greer reported the pattern of recovery of thyroid function after stopping suppressive treatment with thyroid hormone in euthyroid [normal] subjects based on sequential measurements of their thyroidal uptake of radioiodine. He observed that after withdrawal of exogenous thyroid therapy, thyroid function, in terms of radioiodine uptake, returned to normal in most subjects within two weeks. He further observed that thyroid function returned as rapidly in those subjects whose glands had been depressed by several years of thyroid medication as it did in those whose gland had been depressed for only a few days" (3)
These results have been subsequently verified in several studies.(3)(4) So contrary to what has been stated in the bodybuilding literature, there is no evidence that long term thyroid supplementation will somehow damage your thyroid gland. Nevertheless, most bodybuilders will choose to cycle their T3 (or T4 which in most cases works just as well) as part of a cutting strategy, since T3 is catabolic with respect to muscle just as it is with fat. As previously mentioned, long term T3 induced hyperthyroidism is also catabolic to bone as well as muscle.
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