T-bol Advice in relation to anti gyno protection

[zoc0nc0]

Hi Dylan,
First of all your videos are veyr helpful so thank you!
So my background I am 28, i have been boxing since i was 8, and weight training on and off since i was 15, dieting/ traing i am very experienced in... however...

My height is 5'11,
Weight, 82kgs

So i have done winstrol courses before over the years. i was extremely unlucky in my last course because i developed pseudo-gyno 15 months ago, maybe it was fake gear, i had never converted prior so i didnt do a anti-gyno alongside, Now its likely ill need surgery,

Because of this i am very cautous and even though T-Bol isnt suppose to cause gyno i dont want to take any risks
So i am starting my course today.. which is.... oral Turinabol 40mg a day alongside 20mg a day of tamoxifen (nolva) to prevent any gyno, i am also taking milk thistle for my liver,

is nolva ok to run alongside a cause to prevent gyno for six weeks ? and if so how would you recoment tapering off in relation to PCT.

Im sorry if they seem stupid questions, but your videos are the only ones around that go into detail about these things, I would be very greatfull to get your advice, or maybe a better way in doing this?

ps - I am currently cutting, i have chose T-bol because im getting into athletics, i dont want to be too big, cut fat whle maintaining, maybe gaining muscle

 

[The_Gat5]

try some liquid letrozole (liquifem) from sarmsX before you get surgery, I had gyno from some fake sarms and that stuff knocked it out, well worth the money.
You should probably wait till the gyno clears up to start a cycle and to run your TBol with some Test...
but i'll let Dylan do his thing.

 

[BraedenB]

I guarantee Dylan will say the following
"Why on earth are you running an oral only cycle"
"why are you running gear before you fully understand and have obtained your pct"
And again "why are you running an oral only cycle"

 

[Tazz]

nolvadex is not an AI... how do you get gyno from winstrol lol, that's a first

 

[RickRock]

Hi Dylan,
First of all your videos are veyr helpful so thank you!
So my background I am 28, i have been boxing since i was 8, and weight training on and off since i was 15, dieting/ traing i am very experienced in... however...

My height is 5'11,
Weight, 82kgs

So i have done winstrol courses before over the years. i was extremely unlucky in my last course because i developed pseudo-gyno 15 months ago, maybe it was fake gear, i had never converted prior so i didnt do a anti-gyno alongside, Now its likely ill need surgery,

Because of this i am very cautous and even though T-Bol isnt suppose to cause gyno i dont want to take any risks
So i am starting my course today.. which is.... oral Turinabol 40mg a day alongside 20mg a day of tamoxifen (nolva) to prevent any gyno, i am also taking milk thistle for my liver,

is nolva ok to run alongside a cause to prevent gyno for six weeks ? and if so how would you recoment tapering off in relation to PCT.

Im sorry if they seem stupid questions, but your videos are the only ones around that go into detail about these things, I would be very greatfull to get your advice, or maybe a better way in doing this?

ps - I am currently cutting, i have chose T-bol because im getting into athletics, i dont want to be too big, cut fat whle maintaining, maybe gaining muscle

Bro, you don't ever want to use orals without test. That is not advisable at all. For your goals of cutting while maintaining and building muscle mass, steroids make no sense. They are not fat burners. What you want is a good well structured sarms stack, that actually gives you real fat burning, endurance.....which will be highly beneficial in your sport, and strength and lean mass. There is also no estrogen conversion and no risk of gyno.

Here is what you need to run. Get everything from www.sarmsx.com


https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/enhanced-super-stack-12-weeks

1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)


PCT

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

 

[JackSteel]

What they said. No oral only. Winstrol does not aromatize. Neither does tbol but you need to start using test always bro. Bad bad cycle idea.


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[AsapSlim]

Do not do an oral only cycle, you have been warned

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hi Dylan,
First of all your videos are veyr helpful so thank you!
So my background I am 28, i have been boxing since i was 8, and weight training on and off since i was 15, dieting/ traing i am very experienced in... however...

My height is 5'11,
Weight, 82kgs

So i have done winstrol courses before over the years. i was extremely unlucky in my last course because i developed pseudo-gyno 15 months ago, maybe it was fake gear, i had never converted prior so i didnt do a anti-gyno alongside, Now its likely ill need surgery,

Because of this i am very cautous and even though T-Bol isnt suppose to cause gyno i dont want to take any risks
So i am starting my course today.. which is.... oral Turinabol 40mg a day alongside 20mg a day of tamoxifen (nolva) to prevent any gyno, i am also taking milk thistle for my liver,

is nolva ok to run alongside a cause to prevent gyno for six weeks ? and if so how would you recoment tapering off in relation to PCT.

Im sorry if they seem stupid questions, but your videos are the only ones around that go into detail about these things, I would be very greatfull to get your advice, or maybe a better way in doing this?

ps - I am currently cutting, i have chose T-bol because im getting into athletics, i dont want to be too big, cut fat whle maintaining, maybe gaining muscle

hey bro... okay, there's a lot wrong here but we can fix this... lets start from the worst part... oral only cycles... brother, this is a very very poor choice... you should never run an oral only cycle... your just going to continue to run into more side effects and problems... you have to stop running this kind of cycle before you really hurt yourself...

also, nolvadex is not an actual ai... you would want aromasin or arimidex but in your case, definitely aromasin... winstrol definitely did not cause you gyno unless this occurred after the cycle, then there could be some sort of rebound effect but it is not likely...

also, major major problem... you said your taking milk thistle for your liver... that's great but what about blood pressure, kindneys, lipids, cholesterol, systems of the body, etc????? bro, the liver is a fraction of what takes a thrashing when you run an oral... its not just you either... i can't tell you how many do not know that orals can do this... far too many think the liver is the only thing needed protected... far far from true... of course the liver takes the worst beating of them all but the others get thrashed as well..

with your goals, there's no reason whatsoever to be using steroids anyway... what your doing is far from conducive to your goal... steroids are not fat burners and tbol is not one that comes close to dropping weight... now, its very very clean and the size will be very dry and keepable, but your goal here is to lose weight, and maintain or add some muscle... the key here is you want to lose weight... you dont care much about your size and not to mention, you have already endured issues with anabolics...

i would look at getting letro, as was recommended to you by The Gat, but that would definitely be the best option that could save you from surgery...

with your goals, you dont need steroids whatsoever... sarms would be perfect for you and what your goals are.. if your not familiar, check out my articles here... https://www.isarms.com/selective-androgen-receptor-modulators

also, sarms will not have any sort of estrogen conversation, NO METHYLATION and are perfect for your goals... they take you to an entire different level.. its by far the best option for you

 

[zoc0nc0]

Hello everyone,
Firstly, I would like to thank everybody for their advice and taking the time to read my post. I think I need to clarify a few things about what happened in relation to the pseudo-gyno. My email was a bit vague and slightly inaccurate, which was my fault.

So I am now in my late 20’s and I have done around 6 Winstrol courses and one Anavar course. All these mini courses were from a reliable source in which I never was on the end of any ill gains. The main reason I did Winstrol was because of its ability to create red blood cells which of course boosted my endurance greatly. And the fact these compounds do not convert to estrogen

Anyway so I ended up going to a different source and he told me about this stuff called Stanavar, which was supposedly Winstrol and Anavar combined in to a 100m tablet, quite a few people used this at the gym and said it was good. Therefore, I decided to give it a go,

(I have always had slightly puffy nipples from puberty but they were never noticeable.) So I only took it for about 8 days, on the 8th day my nipple felt itchy, So I stopped immediately, over the following week my nipples became puffier to the point I could see it through my top. (A rebound) as suggested. It’s Like a grade 1 gyno.
So I went to gyno specialist and they did ultra sound scan on my nipples. The results concluded that there was no breast tissue behind my nipple but just a build-up of fat. Yet my nipples still didn’t look the same, and it feels like a tiny lump. it baffled me. Anyway it turns out the Stanavar had Anapolon in it.

I made a very bad choice and paid the price. The problem was, I then went away and worked in Africa so I didn’t have time to take the letro and deal with the possibility of that rebounding. You will all be happy to know that I haven’t started the T-Bol because I was waiting for Dylan to respond. From research and what people have suggested is to do this, if this is terrible too please tell me 

Weeks 1 – 5 : (T-bol) 40mg/Day
Weeks 1 – 12 : (Test Cyp) 500mgs/week
Weeks 8 – 12 : (Winstrol) 40mg/Day
Weeks 1 – 12 : (Arimidex) 0.5 Every other day (Stops the build up of Estrogen?)
PCT
(Let Esters clear for two weeks before taking clomid)
Weeks 14 –18: (Clomid) 50/25/25/25
Weeks 12 – 18: (Nolvadex) 20/20/20/10/10/10 (Stops Estrogen Converting to Gyno?)

Protection (internal body)
I watched Dylan’s video on N2GUARD? Is there another product similar to this as it’s hard to get in the UK. Please not that I am here to learn, so I don’t have to go and buy a BRA like ROBO suggested .
Anyway I am going to take Dylan’s advise and look into taking SARMS instead.  it seems less complicated but I do need help with trying to reverse this gyno. Dylan?

I have got hold of some prescription Letrozole and nolva and I am wondering what a decent reverse Gyno protocol is, I need something that hopefully can shrink the gyno and be protected from any rebound after I stop taking letro? The SARMS version of letro, is there guidance on how to reverse the gyno and be protected of any rebound effect?
I would like to thank everybody for their advice I am extremely great full for your time and patience. I am sorry for any stupid questions; I am not very confident with this stuff. I am just trying to learn. We all start somewhere! 

Take care everybody,
Jack