Thanks for the reply.I trieda50 years ago and that one didn't agree with me at all.you guys have me thinking on the whole Ai dbol thing.I really don't want to use one because of cholesterol.I'm already on test year round and use winstrol 3 or four times a year.ive ran that dbol so many times at20mg with no gyno but really I never really retain anything.ive got tbol comeing but you have to run it so high its crazy.its like back in the80s I used to carry all these little 2mg pills around.lol I think next order I'm just gonna get some npp and a shitload of winstrol and be done with it.I'm new to computers and I think I'm over thinking things.ive learner a lot though.the older I get the less I know.