Shutdown

[J Slu]

Hello Dylan,
I have a little problem. After my last cycle which consisted of test p, Npp and tren a, my libido is totally gone! I have tried Npp with test p before, which where my best cycle ever and without any shutdown problems. But this time I added tren ace to the stack. 3 weeks into my cycle i got horny as Fuck, but after a while I got erection problems and now shree I am 3 weeks into pct my libido is totally gone.
Can you give me some advice with what i can do to get back on track? I was also using dostinex on cycle! And yesterday I made bloodtests. I should get the results back next week.
I hope you can give me some advice, because this is really bothering me. I have never tried this before, I just don't feel anything more.

 

[J Slu]

The dosages where: 50 mg tren a ed, 100 mg Npp ed and 50 mg test p ed. In the last 3 weeks of the cycle i uped the test p dose to 100 mg ed.
I also took 250 units of hcg 2xew. And as I already mentioned dostinex 0,25 mg 2 x ew. Right now I am on my pct consisting of 20 tamoxifen/nolva and 50 Clomid and 0,5 aromasin.
The results from the bloodtest should be here any minute, i will post them here as soon as I get them.
I am really in a bad situation right now and want to do everything to get my libido back.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hello Dylan,
I have a little problem. After my last cycle which consisted of test p, Npp and tren a, my libido is totally gone! I have tried Npp with test p before, which where my best cycle ever and without any shutdown problems. But this time I added tren ace to the stack. 3 weeks into my cycle i got horny as Fuck, but after a while I got erection problems and now shree I am 3 weeks into pct my libido is totally gone.
Can you give me some advice with what i can do to get back on track? I was also using dostinex on cycle! And yesterday I made bloodtests. I should get the results back next week.
I hope you can give me some advice, because this is really bothering me. I have never tried this before, I just don't feel anything more.

where did you get your pct products from? your pct protocol should look like this...

clomid 50/50/25/25

nolva 40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod

mk-2866 25 mg day

gw-501516 20 mg day



This is a FULL and COMPLETE pct protocol... your dosage of everything was quite moderate and you say you were running all the proper ancillaries so it makes no senses unless you had poor products... bloodwork will ultimately tell us where you are at but something seems very strange and it does not add up here...

 

[J Slu]

Yes, I also think that I got poor pct stuff. Both the Clomid and nolva are liquid serms and perhaps they are not really kicking in.
And can short explain my symptoms. First of all I don't have any desire of having sex anymore! I just recently met a new really hot girl from my gym but every time she tries to have sex I can't get it up and evan doesn't want to. But when I want to make her happy I have to take the blue pill.

 

[FL1025]

Where did you get the dostinex? if your aren't sure if your pct products are legit you can get them atPure essence and everything I've had from there has been top notch

 

[RickRock]

The dosages where: 50 mg tren a ed, 100 mg Npp ed and 50 mg test p ed. In the last 3 weeks of the cycle i uped the test p dose to 100 mg ed.
I also took 250 units of hcg 2xew. And as I already mentioned dostinex 0,25 mg 2 x ew. Right now I am on my pct consisting of 20 tamoxifen/nolva and 50 Clomid and 0,5 aromasin.
The results from the bloodtest should be here any minute, i will post them here as soon as I get them.
I am really in a bad situation right now and want to do everything to get my libido back.

I think a big part of the problem is your test dosage was too low compared to the amount of Nandrolones you were using. In my opinion your test should be equal to or greater than your nandrolone doses. Since you added in another nandrolone on top of NPP I think it contributed. Also very possible prolactin or estrogen is out of range. Blood work will tell you that

 

[cbbram00]

The dosages where: 50 mg tren a ed, 100 mg Npp ed and 50 mg test p ed. In the last 3 weeks of the cycle i uped the test p dose to 100 mg ed.

Your Test was too low and I think you waited too late to up your Test... Your prolactin is probably real high along with you not having high quality ancillaries. Get bloods and add the prolactin test... It's not that expensive.

There's always a risk adding 2 nandros and this proves it...

 

[J Slu]

FL1025 --> The dostinex i got was from pfizer and i know that it was good to go because before i started dostinex i had gyno evan while taking aromasin. After 4 weeks of dostinex it was completely gone and it never came back while on.

RickRock --> Yes in the past i used to have the test dose higher than the nandrolones, but after several hours of reading i found out that most guys are going from high test low nandro to low test high nandro, to keep sides under control. this has something to do with all the estrogen related side effects.

I really appriciate all responses and the help i get. I hope i can post my bloodwork values later today.

 

[cbbram00]

but after several hours of reading i found out that most guys are going from high test low nandro to low test high nandro, to keep sides under control. this has something to do with all the estrogen related side effects.

I think this applies more to Tren but not Tren and NPP combined at 3 times the combined total dose brother... I've been reading the same thing...

 

[J Slu]

Thank you cbbram i am really loving the feedback i am getting here. I think you are on to something here, it may only be in tren test cycles. if that would be the case and i would experience Deca-dick, would you think it would be a good idea to jump on test again or should i extend my PCT with 4 more weeks? anyways i am not doing any changes before i get my bloodwork. i just asking

 

[rockmfhudd]

i would see what your bloods show and maybe consider the extension to just get back to "normal" there is no rush in this game man all you will find here is advice on safety, longevity of health and did i say safety? i am kinda new to the game as well but there is probably 100 years or more of experience some personal and some by observing others. however if we or the vets here tell you something it would be wise to take it to heart. THEY KNOW!!!! the thing here is a lot of us have grown up with the "more is better" concept and that could be very detrimental. So take it slow look at your bloods, post them here so you can get the right advice on where to go and welcome by the way to the Mecca of forums

 

[cbbram00]

Thank you cbbram i am really loving the feedback i am getting here. I think you are on to something here, it may only be in tren test cycles. if that would be the case and i would experience Deca-dick, would you think it would be a good idea to jump on test again or should i extend my PCT with 4 more weeks? anyways i am not doing any changes before i get my bloodwork. i just asking

You're welcome...

I'm not too sure about jumping back on Test because I'm on TRT and I'm not sure about the ramifications of something like that. Basically cycle / PCT is not my forte... I'm sure someone else will know...

 

[cbbram00]

If you have Cialis 20mg split the pill in half and take ed or eod this will get your confidence back up and if you need to do the deed you should be ok. If you don't get morning wood with the cialis you may be in for a lengthy recovery...

 

[J Slu]

i agree with you rockmfhudd, but i just thought that jumping on a small dose of test p would give me a better starting position on a next pct. So again im just asking if this would be idea to get rid of the deca shutdown. in the past i tried this by cutting away the npp 6 weeks before stopping the test and i came of totally smoth. but yes the only thing i am focused on right now is to get my libido back.

cbbram --> do you know if viagra or cialis taken ed can have any possible side effect for my libido in the long run or can Cialis/Viagra even help libido.

 

[cbbram00]

cbbram --> do you know if viagra or cialis taken ed can have any possible side effect for my libido in the long run or can Cialis/Viagra even help libido.

I don't recommend taking Viagra ed but Cialis ed yes... I take it ed 10mg for my enlarged prostate and it definitely helps with my libido and any erectile issues. It's more of a short term solution to your problem... Only proper PCT and recovery will will be the permanent solution.

 

[J Slu]

I got the liquid Clomid and Nolva from researchliquids.eu. i live in europe and this is why i can't get it from the US. Customs doesn't allow this here in europe

 

[J Slu]

cbbram --> okay, i just wanted to know if Cialis ed could harm my libido in the long run. why does Cialis help with enlarged prostate?

 

[cbbram00]

cbbram --> why does Cialis help with enlarged prostate?

It shrinks the prostate and helps with urination... The doctor prescribed it to me... Works great!

Cialis and Saw Palmetto are a great combination for the prostate.

 

[cbbram00]

cbbram --> okay, i just wanted to know if Cialis ed could harm my libido in the long run.

Cialis is safe to take ed 5-10mg...I'm only recommending this until you're back to normal... not forever... Lol

 

[rockmfhudd]

I got the liquid Clomid and Nolva from researchliquids.eu. i live in europe and this is why i can't get it from the US. Customs doesn't allow this here in europe

pretty sure you can get pure essence which is now sarmsx shipped to uk or Europe. pm Dylan and ask but im pretty sure you can depends on what country you are in i guess. i know Australia is pretty strict