Second Cycle - Test E and Deca - A few questions

[BBinDC]

Hey guys, just wanted to get your thoughts on this cycle and if I need to clear anything up in the PCT? There are a million different sites on running cycles and each one says something different.

Im 35 years old, 5'6 and 175

1-12 Test E 300 E3D
1-10 Deca 400 week
1-12 Caber .25 E3D
1-14 Adex .25 EOD

PCT
Week 15
Nolva 40/20/20/20


Am I supposed to run adex throughout PCT?

How long should I run the Caber?


Dylan - just wanted to say thanks for your youtube videos, very educational

 

[cmb5017]

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Hey guys, just wanted to get your thoughts on this cycle and if I need to clear anything up in the PCT? There are a million different sites on running cycles and each one says something different.

Im 35 years old, 5'6 and 175

1-12 Test E 300 E3D
1-10 Deca 400 week
1-12 Caber .25 E3D
1-14 Adex .25 EOD

PCT
Week 15
Nolva 40/20/20/20


Am I supposed to run adex throughout PCT?

How long should I run the Caber?


Dylan - just wanted to say thanks for your youtube videos, very educational

Yes continue to run your AI throughout the pct.
run your caber the whole cycle of deca use.
me personally I like my test higher than the deca

 

[cmb5017]

Never mind I see ur pinning the test every 3 days..ur good

 

[BBinDC]

thanks CM

when you say "run your caber the whole cycle of deca use", does that mean just for the 10 weeks? Or should I continue it since Deca is such a long lasting ester?

 

[cmb5017]

thanks CM

when you say "run your caber the whole cycle of deca use", does that mean just for the 10 weeks? Or should I continue it since Deca is such a long lasting ester?

If you want to play it safe you can run it an extra week after your last pin. The half life is 6 days so the prolactin effects should be coming to a close even if the ester is detectable in ur system for a while longer

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hey guys, just wanted to get your thoughts on this cycle and if I need to clear anything up in the PCT? There are a million different sites on running cycles and each one says something different.

Im 35 years old, 5'6 and 175

1-12 Test E 300 E3D
1-10 Deca 400 week
1-12 Caber .25 E3D
1-14 Adex .25 EOD

PCT
Week 15
Nolva 40/20/20/20


Am I supposed to run adex throughout PCT?

How long should I run the Caber?


Dylan - just wanted to say thanks for your youtube videos, very educational

hey bro... so a few questions for you... what is your body fat and what is your usage experience? what are your goals from the cycle?

my preference is to run test lower than deca but thats up to you...

i would absolutely switch arimidex to aromasin and run it through pct...

your pct is beyond terrible.. you can't expect to recover from any cycle like that and especially a deca cycle... please watch my video on pct explanation... here is the link and layout for you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ_bD25Fuxc


clomid 50/50/25/25

nolva 40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod

cycle assist

mk-2866 25 mg day

gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Oldjarhead]

Should you run Nolvadex after Deca ? Is it almost the same as running Nolvadex after tren? A no no ? Just thinking



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[DylanGemelli]

Should you run Nolvadex after Deca ? Is it almost the same as running Nolvadex after tren? A no no ? Just thinking



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you never run it WITH IT, but if you wait a few weeks after your last pin then its fine but you should still just keep an eye on things however in my experiences most have not had any sort of issue whatsoever when they wait the proper time... if you ran it WITH IT then there would be a very high likelihood of issue

 

[RickRock]

Hey guys, just wanted to get your thoughts on this cycle and if I need to clear anything up in the PCT? There are a million different sites on running cycles and each one says something different.

Im 35 years old, 5'6 and 175

1-12 Test E 300 E3D
1-10 Deca 400 week
1-12 Caber .25 E3D
1-14 Adex .25 EOD

PCT
Week 15
Nolva 40/20/20/20


Am I supposed to run adex throughout PCT?

How long should I run the Caber?


Dylan - just wanted to say thanks for your youtube videos, very educational

I would run the test a little higher than the Deca. Run it at 500mg per week. Run caber the whole cycle, and the Adex the whole cycle and into pct. if you are able to, get Aromasin instead. It's much better

Your pct needs work. Here is a good one for you

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg per day
GW 20mg per day

 

[BBinDC]

Thanks much for the replies. I really appreciate you all taking the time.

I already placed my order but I will try to get them to switch the adex to Aromasin. I had ordered clomid and nolva in case. I will run both now during PCT.

Pardon my ignorance but are the "cycle assist" items you recommend injectables?

Couldn't tell you my body fat as Im not sure. Maybe 20% ???

Here is a couple photos from today's training session.

http://imgur.com/a/uGAGy

I am looking to add at least 10 pounds of muscle mass with this cycle. My previous cycle was Test E (500 per week) and Dbol to start with. Had no problems on or with PCT. While I was on the strength gains were amazing, I didn't really add much weight, hence me trying the Deca this go round.

I have eaten basically the same thing for over 2 years now

Meal
1. Protein shake, 8oz skim
2. Cup of oatmeal
3. Turkey or Tuna sandwich on whole wheat bread (8 grams protein per slice) - this is my prework out meal
4. Training then recovery shake, 12 oz skim
5. chicken breast
6. large plate of broccoli
7. Cassien shake before bed

I snack on almonds and cashews when hungry throughout the day, probably about 2 cups.

 

[deucy646]

guys i need to know what is caber..?is it a oct drug..?

 

[sweetnspicy]

guys i need to know what is caber..?is it a oct drug..?

Caber is a dopamine antagonist. As you may know having increased prolactin levels can come with some nasty sides such as decrease in libido, E.D., gyno, loss of muscle mass, loss of body hair, and even infertility issues. Many of these side effects are a result of the elevated prolactin levels interfering with the function of the testicles, which in turn can cause your body to produce low testosterone. Usually caber is run along side of Deca and Tren. Basically you can think of Caber as attaching to prolactin and deactivating it.

 

[sweetnspicy]

Hey guys, just wanted to get your thoughts on this cycle and if I need to clear anything up in the PCT? There are a million different sites on running cycles and each one says something different.

Im 35 years old, 5'6 and 175

1-12 Test E 300 E3D
1-10 Deca 400 week
1-12 Caber .25 E3D
1-14 Adex .25 EOD

PCT
Week 15
Nolva 40/20/20/20


Am I supposed to run adex throughout PCT?

How long should I run the Caber?


Dylan - just wanted to say thanks for your youtube videos, very educational

You definitely need to take everyone's advice on the PCT. They know what they're talking about. If you need any help finding anything along those lines feel free to PM me.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks much for the replies. I really appreciate you all taking the time.

I already placed my order but I will try to get them to switch the adex to Aromasin. I had ordered clomid and nolva in case. I will run both now during PCT.

Pardon my ignorance but are the "cycle assist" items you recommend injectables?

Couldn't tell you my body fat as Im not sure. Maybe 20% ???

Here is a couple photos from today's training session.

http://imgur.com/a/uGAGy

I am looking to add at least 10 pounds of muscle mass with this cycle. My previous cycle was Test E (500 per week) and Dbol to start with. Had no problems on or with PCT. While I was on the strength gains were amazing, I didn't really add much weight, hence me trying the Deca this go round.

I have eaten basically the same thing for over 2 years now

Meal
1. Protein shake, 8oz skim
2. Cup of oatmeal
3. Turkey or Tuna sandwich on whole wheat bread (8 grams protein per slice) - this is my prework out meal
4. Training then recovery shake, 12 oz skim
5. chicken breast
6. large plate of broccoli
7. Cassien shake before bed

I snack on almonds and cashews when hungry throughout the day, probably about 2 cups.

hey bro... you are probably over 20% at this point and in no way should you be using steroids.. your diet needs some work to get your body fat down and you need to be doing some cardio work as well... its so much more dangerous to be cycling at that high of body fat and its not good conditioning overall, which means you should not be using any sort of steroid... you need to get rid of the milk from your diet as well as the turkey... you need more veggies, better carb sources etc... your diet is very incomplete... my best advice is to post this in the diet and training section and get an overhaul because as it stands, it needs a lot of work...

the good news? you have a very solid foundation and if you did this right, you could be a beast but it takes discipline and work... do you do any cardio work etc?

 

[DylanGemelli]

guys i need to know what is caber..?is it a oct drug..?

Caber is a dopamine antagonist. As you may know having increased prolactin levels can come with some nasty sides such as decrease in libido, E.D., gyno, loss of muscle mass, loss of body hair, and even infertility issues. Many of these side effects are a result of the elevated prolactin levels interfering with the function of the testicles, which in turn can cause your body to produce low testosterone. Usually caber is run along side of Deca and Tren. Basically you can think of Caber as attaching to prolactin and deactivating it.

extremely well said !! that's a perfect description... very nice!