Second Cycle Advice

[Lucky Sob]

Proposed Plan:
1-12: Test E 400-500mg
1-11 Deca 250-300mg (want deca to be out of my system by the time PCT starts)
(potentially) 1-6 Tbol (I'm trying to decide if this is necessary given it's only my second cycle)
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

PCT:
13-16 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
13-16 Clomid 50/50/25/25
13-16 Nolva 40/40/20/20

HCG: I was contemplating taking HCG to assist at the end of this cycle as I don't do TRT and don't want any issues transitioning back to my normal Test.

Bridging with Sarms: I'm new to this concept and have listened to ISarm's Videos on youtubes, and was curious what sarm stack you'd recommend for somebody who'd be looking to lean out somewhat while maintaining size/strength post AAS cycle? My PCT post sarms would be something simple like Clomid: 50/25/25/25

First Cycle:
500 mg Test E
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
FOR PCT: Novla 40/40/20/20 (I'm looking for a stronger pct as this wasn't enough last time)

Goal: Start at ~8% BF around 195 lbs at 5'11. End with as much clean muscle as I can put on sub 12-13% BF (thus the sarm cycle to lean out post pct)

QUESTION: What amounts of test/deca would you suggest (I've listened to all of your videos on deca and test cycles and agree that I'm trying to keep the "less is more" mentality. What prolactin controlling drug would you recommend at what dosages over what amount of time? Would you recommend HCG, and if so how much for how long? How does my PCT look? What Sarm Stack/Dosages would you recommend to bridge with (I admittedly know far less about Sarms then I do about AAS, but plan to look deeper into whatever your suggestion is)? And finally would you suggest using Tbol to kickstart this cycle for the first 4-6 weeks and what cycle assist would you recommend should I run that oral?

 

[Lucky Sob]

Also, I've used Ifit for my first cycle as recommended from a friend who had taken in the past that I trust. I know it's frowned upon to ask for sources so I'll just ask if you could direct me to a place where I could find a good source?

 

[RickRock]

Well bro, let me helpmyoumrix a few things with this cycle. You have a few problems with dosage and pct that need addressed and I'll set you up your SARMS bridge as well

1-12 Test C 400mg per week
1-12 Deca 300mg per week
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 caber 0.5mg every three days

10-14 hcg 1000iu per week


PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

Then for your SARMS bridge run this


1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.


PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day

 

[DylanGemelli]

Also, I've used Ifit for my first cycle as recommended from a friend who had taken in the past that I trust. I know it's frowned upon to ask for sources so I'll just ask if you could direct me to a place where I could find a good source?

hey brother.. i like the fact you have done plenty of research and came here with a plan... MUCH MUCH respect to you for that... let me help you here.. you are definitely on the right track but deca can linger in your system for months however not to the point it will hinder recovery so do not worry about that whatsoever... here are the links to purchase everything you need for your cycle followed by the layout... THEN i will address your sarms bridge after this layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-lgd-4033

https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133

1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-12 deca 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-12 caber .5 mg eod
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg per day dosed once a day in the a.m.
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week


pct 15-18


when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…








here is the link to purchase the entire pct stack followed by the layout...




https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?rou...earch=platinum




clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[DylanGemelli]

for your sarms bridge, here are the links to purchase everything you need followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-off

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138

1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
9-12 tongkat ali


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Lucky Sob]

Thank you very much for taking the time to read through my post and reply in such an in-depth manner! I'll read through this and use the information to be better prepared!! Again, it's very much appreciated!

 

[Lucky Sob]

Dylan Gemelli! I watched many of your videos, and that's how I actually came up with this plan of action (along with other forum boards, etc...)! I appreciate you taking the time to look at this and help me through my second cycle. Thank you very, very much

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thank you very much for taking the time to read through my post and reply in such an in-depth manner! I'll read through this and use the information to be better prepared!! Again, it's very much appreciated!

anytime brother, im happy to help

 

[Lucky Sob]

My only question is why Test Cyp instead of Test E??

 

[DylanGemelli]

My only question is why Test Cyp instead of Test E??

bro it makes no difference on which one you use.. i just recommend that one because its half life is perfect on cycle but test e is damn near the same thing... it doesnt matter which you use

 

[Lucky Sob]

As I took Test E @500mg/week (250 m/th) I have a couple small questions about these two new drugs. I've read up and seen that it's alright to inject Test Cyp twice a week at half the weekly dosage, just like Test E. I've also read that although Deca has a very long ester it's fine to split weekly doses into two so you can just inject at the same time as the Test Cyp. Would you recommend doing both drugs on a Monday/Thursday schedule at half the weekly doses? I'm a bit of a perfectionist, so I try and get every detail down perfectly! Thanks for the help!!

 

[Lucky Sob]

Thank you^

 

[RickRock]

As I took Test E @500mg/week (250 m/th) I have a couple small questions about these two new drugs. I've read up and seen that it's alright to inject Test Cyp twice a week at half the weekly dosage, just like Test E. I've also read that although Deca has a very long ester it's fine to split weekly doses into two so you can just inject at the same time as the Test Cyp. Would you recommend doing both drugs on a Monday/Thursday schedule at half the weekly doses? I'm a bit of a perfectionist, so I try and get every detail down perfectly! Thanks for the help!!

Yes that's exactly what you want to do bro. Just split them both to twice a week and inject half of your weekly dose of each. Monday and Thursday would work well for pin days

 

[DylanGemelli]

i do monday and friday but you can do it that way as well bro

 

[Lucky Sob]

Thank you both!!

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thank you both!!

anytime brother, im happy to help!

 

[Lucky Sob]

Another question I ran into while setting this all up was Caber. I've read anywhere from .25mg-.5mg 2 times a week is good due to the half life. You both recommended different amounts, which is fine. I was curious however if I run it post cycle and into pct?

 

[DylanGemelli]

you run it only when using a nandrolone... when you discontinue using your nandrolone or tren, then you stop using caber...