Rio 2016 Olympics and AAS

[jlaix0]

How can they have so much people excluded with doping, when the athletes can do every single test before going to the Olympics ???

I mean they can have every test possible and they know the half life of the products they are using...

I don't understand how you can make such big mistakes, maybe the athletes used Sarms, AAS or peptides on their own without telling anyone ?

 

[DylanGemelli]

bro, just because things have half lifes etc. and are supposed to clear at certain times does not always hold true... there's a lot of scenarios where things linger, things cause false positives, etc... some are careless and reckless, sometimes you think your getting one thing and get another etc... i mean, this question is impossible to answer... there's a million scenarios that could occur... like any of us actually know what they are doing behind the scenes? some are just careless, some have no clue what they are doing etc... it could be so many different things man..

 

[rockmfhudd]

the Russian chic pulled the same shit jon bones jones pulled about cellucor some shit bwahahaha. as a top athelete they know wtf they are doing its risk and reward and I guess for them the reward is worth the risk. I mean look Russia had a hole in the bathroom so they could swap piss cups lol

 

[jlaix0]

bro, just because things have half lifes etc. and are supposed to clear at certain times does not always hold true... there's a lot of scenarios where things linger, things cause false positives, etc... some are careless and reckless, sometimes you think your getting one thing and get another etc... i mean, this question is impossible to answer... there's a million scenarios that could occur... like any of us actually know what they are doing behind the scenes? some are just careless, some have no clue what they are doing etc... it could be so many different things man..

Ok thanks bro, I thought that every single thing into account was taken with ELITE athletes in their own country in order not to get caught, but apparently their system testing is not 100% reliable...

 

[rockmfhudd]

lol hell Russia's been cheating for years. and my philosophy is if you aint cheatin you aint tryin. if you aint first your last haha 2nd place is the first place loser

 

[DylanGemelli]

Ok thanks bro, I thought that every single thing into account was taken with ELITE athletes in their own country in order not to get caught, but apparently their system testing is not 100% reliable...

nothing is 100% brother, always remember that... just because things are a majority etc. does not ensure nor guarantee it plus you are giving way too much credit to some of these athletes... some are fucking clueless and some are just careless... trust me, even the smart ones have been caught.. when you play with fire, you tend to get burnt, sometimes minor and sometimes more.. its something you have to fully understand when you make the decision to go against the rules...

 

[jlaix0]

nothing is 100% brother, always remember that... just because things are a majority etc. does not ensure nor guarantee it plus you are giving way too much credit to some of these athletes... some are fucking clueless and some are just careless... trust me, even the smart ones have been caught.. when you play with fire, you tend to get burnt, sometimes minor and sometimes more.. its something you have to fully understand when you make the decision to go against the rules...

Thank you bro, very good instruction from you here, yes I often forget that they can be clueless or careless, and I'm sure you are a lot of times surprised (or maybe not lol) by the lack of knownledge of pro competitors and so called pro "coaches" or "managers".... but like you often say, they have to learn the hard way LOL

 

[RickRock]

Ok thanks bro, I thought that every single thing into account was taken with ELITE athletes in their own country in order not to get caught, but apparently their system testing is not 100% reliable...

Th problem is metabolites....which directly impact detection times, and there isn't any conclusive solid information on what exactly the detection times are for certain compounds. There's a lot of variance in what people say the actual detection times are with certain things

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thank you bro, very good instruction from you here, yes I often forget that they can be clueless or careless, and I'm sure you are a lot of times surprised (or maybe not lol) by the lack of knownledge of pro competitors and so called pro "coaches" or "managers".... but like you often say, they have to learn the hard way LOL

LOLLL thats right... you know too, i can't put all the blame on the athlete, well in a sense, let me explain... a lot of these athletes get completely misguided by a coach and some are too young to really understand and just go with the coach in fear of angering them and losing their spot etc... they should be researching everything themselves but then again, challenging a coach could get them kicked off so they just do what they are told and its flat out wrong... so in that sense, they may not be in the blame fully and the coach or said person advising should just get the shit beat out of them

 

[chelades]

Th problem is metabolites....which directly impact detection times, and there isn't any conclusive solid information on what exactly the detection times are for certain compounds. There's a lot of variance in what people say the actual detection times are with certain things

Nailed it man.