Questions on pct and tren

[j0s@hino]

Hey Dylan,
I'm a huge fan of your youtube videos. You seem to be very wise about steroids, and their pros/cons. My name is Ruben, I competed in power lifting in high school and qualified for the state meet my senior year in the super heavy weight class. I was also an all state football player for division 5A after my senior year and I'm now playing college football. I've been lifting and conditioning day in and day out since the 6th grade, and I've always been a top-notch kind of athlete, but now that I'm at the college level, I'm very average. I did some ProH. during my junior year in high school and I saw an increase in all of my lifts, but I didn't see a difference in my body appearance. Of course I did take PCT along with it, but that was after my PH cycle. I know that some of my teammates are on steroids, but I feel that they don't know what they're doing because I asked some of them what they're taking for PCT and they didn't even know what PCT is. I've been considering getting on a cycle, but I want to know what you think about all of this? What type of cycle should i be looking for? What kind of PCT? and if I'm trying to cut some fat, should I first try to cut weight before the cycle or balance weight cutting with muscle gaining during the cycle? Should I consider Tren?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hey Dylan,
I'm a huge fan of your youtube videos. You seem to be very wise about steroids, and their pros/cons. My name is Ruben, I competed in power lifting in high school and qualified for the state meet my senior year in the super heavy weight class. I was also an all state football player for division 5A after my senior year and I'm now playing college football. I've been lifting and conditioning day in and day out since the 6th grade, and I've always been a top-notch kind of athlete, but now that I'm at the college level, I'm very average. I did some ProH. during my junior year in high school and I saw an increase in all of my lifts, but I didn't see a difference in my body appearance. Of course I did take PCT along with it, but that was after my PH cycle. I know that some of my teammates are on steroids, but I feel that they don't know what they're doing because I asked some of them what they're taking for PCT and they didn't even know what PCT is. I've been considering getting on a cycle, but I want to know what you think about all of this? What type of cycle should i be looking for? What kind of PCT? and if I'm trying to cut some fat, should I first try to cut weight before the cycle or balance weight cutting with muscle gaining during the cycle? Should I consider Tren?

bro, you should not even consider steroid use, and you should not even have the word tren in your vocabulary right now... your friends are clueless and they are going to ruin their lives and trust me, they will... they are going to learn the hard way and iw ould hate to see you follow in their foot steps... you already made a very poor choice when you decided to run a pro hormone, don't make an even worse mistake... your body is still developing and your going to throw it completely off.. you won't be helping yourself but actually harming it... i have alternatives for you that won't put any kind of unneeded stress on your body and won't ruin your natural growth but will provide all the enhancements and more that you are wanting... start by reading my articles on sarms... start here... https://www.isarms.com/selective-androgen-receptor-modulators

www.sarmsx.com has all you need with the layout im giving you.. i assure you, this is far and away the best option for you...

1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
9-12 daa


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[DylanGemelli]

** Dylan coincidentally posted at the same time I did** lol

its all good man.. your post was spot on!

 

[9th Wonder]

Dylan gave you some really sound advice as well as a performance enhancing stack that will produce some serious gains for you.

Your teammates are making a huge mistake and will pay handsomely for it in the long run. If you were my bother I'd tell you not to run anything, but I know how tempting it can be so SARMS will no doubt be the safest bet.

 

[ruben777]

Thanks guys. I appreciate each response. and Stats? I've one rep maxed 410 bench press, 725 squat, and 580 deadlift with full power lifting accessories. I'm 6'2 and weigh about 330. I play offensive line and run a 5.6 40 yd dash.

 

[EZ_E]

You may be confusing a few things; max lifts and body appearance mean nothing on the football field. If your were a power lifter or bodybuilding/physique competitor then we have a different discussion....if you're trying to improve your game as an O-lineman then Dylan nailed it.

 

[ruben777]

Cool, Thanks EZ_E

 

[DylanGemelli]

sorry for the way things were going... it should be all straightened out now... the important thing here is you understand where others went wrong and not to allow them to mislead you into doing something you will be sorry for... you are well on your way and you don't need to go that route... stick to the plan i gave you bro and i assure you, you will be thanking me later... i laid it all out for you on how to do it... do this the right way and you will surpass all your goals...

 

[EZ_E]

Cool, Thanks EZ_E

You got it brotha, just remember me if you make it to the NFL....get me & Dylan some 50 yard line seats.

 

[DylanGemelli]

You got it brotha, just remember me if you make it to the NFL....get me & Dylan some 50 yard line seats.

thats my man right there! my thoughts exactly... you want free advice, we want free tickets!!! LOLLLLLLLLL

my wife said that goes for her too! LOL

we are huge football fans and ez is my boy, so its a must and the seats have to be on the 50... i dont want kleenex for a bloody nose with bad seats! LOL =)

 

[ruben777]

Hahaa, yeah guys. If I ever make it to that level, Ill make sure to contact y'all through here again & hit y'all up with those tickets!!

 

[rockmfhudd]

don't leave bro hang out and let us know what your progress is with this sarms stack and with your training you are a fucking beast but most lineman are. we are all here for you and rooting for healthful success

 

[8cartman8]

No, I don't dislike you, not one bit...I'm just simply not going to coddle you with the wrong route to go down...I don't believe the advice you're so willing to accept is the right advice...I believe your education is far more important than your athletic dreams...I'm sure your parents, grandparents, etc., would feel the same...this all coming from someone that was in your shoes at one point being part of a very elite athletic program...basically what I'm saying is, "the juice is not worth the squeeze" in this case...you'll, hopefully, one day in life, learn that when making a decision, one needs to think of ALL the consequences both good and bad, and be open to hearing opposition and not just praise...trust me, one thing I have learned in life is, when you start hearing nothing but praise, be very weary of who and what it's coming from...


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[ruben777]

Well, Is this coming from a distrust in SARMs as a product or truly because you're worried about some random guy's education? And why/how would a cycle of SARMs or actually juice mess with my academics?

 

[8cartman8]

Dylan is spot on with his advice..no doubt about it..he knows his stuff and a lot of the guys on here do as well...but you have to weigh the responsibility of the position you're in...is it worth it? Is it worth risking a sport you love taken away from you, an education stripped from you...the possibility of it causing problems when applying to a new school? I don't think it's worth it Ruben, in my opinion...and we all know better than to show you the options that should not be made available to you yet...does that make sense? It has nothing to do with myself, it's about you bud...just want to see you succeed...


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[8cartman8]

You have to understand too, these things are unbelievable in what they can do, aas and sarms, and when I say Dylan knows exactly what he's talking about, he does, he's incredibly well versed on all the fitness subjects...but I know he can tell you the pitfalls that some of these things can cause a person of any age to experience...and I know the other guys can weigh in...mentally, emotionally, aas can mess with your mind and body at times...sarms are a bit different, from experience and from the posts on here, I'd say without a doubt they're not nearly as potent in that manner as an aas...but still do a great job, and are probably a good starting point if someone wanted to head down that road...so I'll put it to you this way, if you had a son, who you watched grow up and had so many great dreams for him, and he actually made it into college and, holy, gets to play football for the school...education paid for, stays competitive and fit...makes some great friends, enjoys some awesome experiences...meets a nice girl, hopefully a few ha...would you want him riskin' all that for an extra 50 lbs on his squat?


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[drb_iac]

Hey Dylan,
I'm a huge fan of your youtube videos. You seem to be very wise about steroids, and their pros/cons. My name is Ruben, I competed in power lifting in high school and qualified for the state meet my senior year in the super heavy weight class. I was also an all state football player for division 5A after my senior year and I'm now playing college football. I've been lifting and conditioning day in and day out since the 6th grade, and I've always been a top-notch kind of athlete, but now that I'm at the college level, I'm very average. I did some ProH. during my junior year in high school and I saw an increase in all of my lifts, but I didn't see a difference in my body appearance. Of course I did take PCT along with it, but that was after my PH cycle. I know that some of my teammates are on steroids, but I feel that they don't know what they're doing because I asked some of them what they're taking for PCT and they didn't even know what PCT is. I've been considering getting on a cycle, but I want to know what you think about all of this? What type of cycle should i be looking for? What kind of PCT? and if I'm trying to cut some fat, should I first try to cut weight before the cycle or balance weight cutting with muscle gaining during the cycle? Should I consider Tren?

My friend here is some advice from a guy who has lifted weights for over 50 years and did many different sports. You eat a lot of calories especially good protein only good fats, and wholesome carbs. Take creatine,workout hard and sleep well. No booze,no cigs. In time you will hit a peak and when you become your best then we can talk aas. I would say no sooner than 25. I raised 4 sons who were all athletes, and of course they wanted dad to roid them up when they were 12....lol. I laid the rule down that if everyone had thier diet spot on, and were working out hard according to my judgement, then at 24 they could start aas under my supervision. Their first cycle was 200mg test cyp for 12 weeks and then off for 6 months. NOT TREN...that comes way way down the road.
So give your body time to reach it's potential....and good for you for posting here. You will not be misled here. Dylan pretty much will always lay it out for you and you can trust him and many others on this board. I have spent many years keeping kids from hurting themselves, because it sickens me to see a young man damaged by mis info. Before you ever start anything that has risk, be sure that you completely understand the facts. Take care and good luck!

 

[8cartman8]

My friend here is some advice from a guy who has lifted weights for over 50 years and did many different sports. You eat a lot of calories especially good protein only good fats, and wholesome carbs. Take creatine,workout hard and sleep well. No booze,no cigs. In time you will hit a peak and when you become your best then we can talk aas. I would say no sooner than 25. I raised 4 sons who were all athletes, and of course they wanted dad to roid them up when they were 12....lol. I laid the rule down that if everyone had thier diet spot on, and were working out hard according to my judgement, then at 24 they could start aas under my supervision. Their first cycle was 200mg test cyp for 12 weeks and then off for 6 months. NOT TREN...that comes way way down the road.
So give your body time to reach it's potential....and good for you for posting here. You will not be misled here. Dylan pretty much will always lay it out for you and you can trust him and many others on this board. I have spent many years keeping kids from hurting themselves, because it sickens me to see a young man damaged by mis info. Before you ever start anything that has risk, be sure that you completely understand the facts. Take care and good luck!

I'm impressed..very good advice...


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[ruben777]

Yeah, Y'all are probably right. I'm at a great school, but the athletics here aren't as on point. The chances of me actually making it big from here are very slim. I see what y'all are getting at now.. Thanks for the advice guys.

 

[8cartman8]

Enjoy the shit out of it man...it only may happen once in your life bud!


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