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question about anavar

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I would like to ask you about oxandrolone made in genesis lab. i bought it sealed for 150$. is genesis a good lab ?
i want to start my first anavar only cycle. i am 32 years old, 82 kg, 180cm. i would like to gain some capable lean muscle and have more muscles defenition. After research, i want to run the cycle as follow: week 1 (20 mg) week 2 (30 mg) weeks 3 4 5 6 (40 mg), then Nolvadex 20 mg/day for 4 weeks as PCT. i ll also take whey protein. do u recommend this for me ?
 
No bud. This is a terrible cycle and it's not worth it. Even if you were to run it, that PCT is not enough. Shutdown is still shutdown so a full PCT is required. To be honest, Oral only cycles suck. Read the sticky thread from drb, you'll learn a ton. Whats your estimated bf% and how long have you been training?

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I would like to ask you about oxandrolone made in genesis lab. i bought it sealed for 150$. is genesis a good lab ?
i want to start my first anavar only cycle. i am 32 years old, 82 kg, 180cm. i would like to gain some capable lean muscle and have more muscles defenition. After research, i want to run the cycle as follow: week 1 (20 mg) week 2 (30 mg) weeks 3 4 5 6 (40 mg), then Nolvadex 20 mg/day for 4 weeks as PCT. i ll also take whey protein. do u recommend this for me ?

Geez bro...have you read anything on this board? First read "orals only info". Look var is shit...does not work and hurts your liver. Var only shuts your test down and you have zero test...unless you inject it along with taking the var. Just not a good idea to take just var. A first cyle should always be around 250 test cyp nothing else. There is no other safe and moving forward way to do this. You could try a sarms stack first. Someone will post a good sarms stack for you. Do you dislike needles?
 
I would like to ask you about oxandrolone made in genesis lab. i bought it sealed for 150$. is genesis a good lab ?
i want to start my first anavar only cycle. i am 32 years old, 82 kg, 180cm. i would like to gain some capable lean muscle and have more muscles defenition. After research, i want to run the cycle as follow: week 1 (20 mg) week 2 (30 mg) weeks 3 4 5 6 (40 mg), then Nolvadex 20 mg/day for 4 weeks as PCT. i ll also take whey protein. do u recommend this for me ?


so this is pretty much the worst thing you could possibly do... it gets no more stupid, pointless etc. than an oral only cycle... do yourself a HUGE favor and DO NOT run an oral only cycle... you want to get lean muscle and more muscle definition then i have plenty of alternatives for you... anavar is complete shit as it is... its as weak as they come... i won't even look at it because its so pathetic... are you opposed to injections? are you aware of what sarms are?
 
Imagine buying a dozen of those super expensive golf balls - the ones I never buy because I suck at golf. Then go down to the local river and tee them up in front of the river bank. One by one, one shot at a time, you hit each one into the river. But each time you hit a ball into the river, you then hit yourself over the head with your nine iron. With the last ball gone, throw the club into the river because it made your head hurt. Then you go to the local CVS and buy a bottle of Advil to ease your pain. That is about like an var only cycle with a pct.
 
yes jake, i dislike needle. i would like to do my first cycle just oraly. maybe next cycle i will accept injection.
maxx, u said that as a PCT, Nolvadex is not enough for 6 weeks anavar only cycle @ 40 mg per day, what do u suggest with nolvadex ?
dylan, its been like 10 years that i go to gym and i usualy take nitrotech as supplmenet, that all.. if i stack anavar with test cyp u then agree with me ? if so, could u please give me the specific dosage to run both ? give me the lowest acceptable dosage for both and what to take as pct
 
friggin making me NUTZ!! ..lol.....you just have to smile and try to get them on the right track. Geezzzzz

LOL....I've got an idea...since we all have to suffer thru all these oral only posts
We should start an over under pool :)
Make it fun...dull the pain a bit
Maybe get a sponsor to put up a prize (non oral Plz) for the winner
Hehehe
 
LOL....I've got an idea...since we all have to suffer thru all these oral only posts
We should start an over under pool :)
Make it fun...dull the pain a bit
Maybe get a sponsor to put up a prize (non oral Plz) for the winner
Hehehe

Lolol!!!


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LOL....I've got an idea...since we all have to suffer thru all these oral only posts
We should start an over under pool :)
Make it fun...dull the pain a bit
Maybe get a sponsor to put up a prize (non oral Plz) for the winner
Hehehe

Let's see whose head friggin explodes first!
 
yes jake, i dislike needle. i would like to do my first cycle just oraly. maybe next cycle i will accept injection.
maxx, u said that as a PCT, Nolvadex is not enough for 6 weeks anavar only cycle @ 40 mg per day, what do u suggest with nolvadex ?
dylan, its been like 10 years that i go to gym and i usualy take nitrotech as supplmenet, that all.. if i stack anavar with test cyp u then agree with me ? if so, could u please give me the specific dosage to run both ? give me the lowest acceptable dosage for both and what to take as pct
Don't do steroids if your scared of needles. I don't like needles either but if your that admit about it save your money and go find a new hobby.

Don't run an oral only cycle. That's what we call STUUUPID....

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Imagine buying a dozen of those super expensive golf balls - the ones I never buy because I suck at golf. Then go down to the local river and tee them up in front of the river bank. One by one, one shot at a time, you hit each one into the river. But each time you hit a ball into the river, you then hit yourself over the head with your nine iron. With the last ball gone, throw the club into the river because it made your head hurt. Then you go to the local CVS and buy a bottle of Advil to ease your pain. That is about like an var only cycle with a pct.

Best analogy I've heard yet!! Bwahahaha! That's a really good one!


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so this is pretty much the worst thing you could possibly do... it gets no more stupid, pointless etc. than an oral only cycle... do yourself a HUGE favor and DO NOT run an oral only cycle... you want to get lean muscle and more muscle definition then i have plenty of alternatives for you... anavar is complete shit as it is... its as weak as they come... i won't even look at it because its so pathetic... are you opposed to injections? are you aware of what sarms are?

I watched your Anavar Facts video that you made and you were saying how well it works and how keepable the gains were etc.

What's happened between then and now that makes anavar complete shit?
 
I watched your Anavar Facts video that you made and you were saying how well it works and how keepable the gains were etc.

What's happened between then and now that makes anavar complete shit?

If you want to run it with some test have at it man but it's not going to give you anything test won't by itself. Alone it's gonna be crap. It's weak, it provides keep able gains because you won't gain much. Alone you'll shit down your test and have more side effects. I've heard by itself libido is effected negatively so you may as well do test alone.


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If you want to run it with some test have at it man but it's not going to give you anything test won't by itself. Alone it's gonna be crap. It's weak, it provides keep able gains because you won't gain much. Alone you'll shit down your test and have more side effects. I've heard by itself libido is effected negatively so you may as well do test alone.


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I'm not talking about running it or saying it's a good idea either way. I was just curious as to why he is saying it's a pathetic shitty steroid when his videos say differently is all.
 
I'm not talking about running it or saying it's a good idea either way. I was just curious as to why he is saying it's a pathetic shitty steroid when his videos say differently is all.

I do not know what vids say, but here is what pisses me off about this shit. It does nothing. Then they touted it as being non liver toxic. This was hyped by Pfizer who said it is 17 methylated, not 17 alpa like the other orals. Therefore it was not toxic to the liver. Then Pfizer ran a study using 100mg per day and found that not one guy had elevated liver enzymes.
So great.. pfizer said this was a new and strong oral. We stacked it with other things like test and deca, and thought it was doing something. Then we started doing just test and deca and got the same results. How in the world can you get anything from a weak steroid when you are taking 2 stronger ones? So after some years pass big pharm is thinking about other orals that are not liver toxic, so suddenly after many years they do liver studies again...this independent studies, and then find that in every single study EVERYONE had elevated liver enzymes. Somebody either goofed or lied at Pfizer. Also even pfizer did not recommened to use anavar alone.

Why did we like anavar? Because we were told how great it was, and didn't hurt the liver...also it does not aromatize or convert to DHT.Plus it only has an 8 hour half life.
Then another study came out and said anavar was superior to deca and test on ab fat in men. GREAT HUH? Not to be duped again there came several other studies to disprove the first study. ZERO for two Pfizer!!!!!!

So what does anavar do? It is great for cutting...no that got disproved too.So then what does it do? It does work well for women. For men we get a pinched liver and no returns.

Also none of us ,including the big pharm chemists are infallible like the pope. We ,over time, change opins as we use it more and read up on it more. Remember big pharm and docs made it explicitly clear all the way into the 90's that test cyp does nothing for muscle building. They also have changed their minds...why because the BB kept proving them WRONG.
Is Jake saying that the big pharm chemists and docs make big time mistakes and often wrong? Yes! Look at how far we have come...docs actually will prescribe test for a man.

So if we used to like var and have changed our minds then it is by self exploring.You may notice that some folks like one thing but hate another. That is people. I am sure there are still folks who swear by Var. If so have at it.
 
I'm not talking about running it or saying it's a good idea either way. I was just curious as to why he is saying it's a pathetic shitty steroid when his videos say differently is all.

I can't speak for Dylan, but I would personally say he's giving you facts and what it is on paper versus what his personal opinion is.


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