Prolactin - The Gains, Beard, Libido and most things Male Killer

[raybeast]

GUYS .... please keep your prolactin in check.

I was officially diagnosed with a prolactinoma. I couldn't figure out why I was losing size, strength and composition but was still gaining weight on a calorie deficit.

I was really pissed when I lost about 50 pounds on my dead lift. I didn't really lose much in other areas except the chest. Prolactin can really have some major effects there (think gyno stunting gains)

I'm on a 9 month supply of Cabergoline. Hope I see my numbers come back up and my facial hair come back. My body hair was falling out all over the place.

So.. I'm still on a PCP cycle to help keep my test up in normal ranges. I'm using GW everyday but that couldn't even stop some of the strength loss.

However, on the flip side,

I plan on doing S4, GW and LG for the next 12 weeks to blow past my PRs after I finish my PCP. I'll wait about 3 weeks and go harder than ever with that combo plus the Cabergoline to keep my prolactin in check.

 

[cbbram00]

What was the cause of this? AAS related or a medical condition?

Pharma Lady Rep

 

[rockmfhudd]

did you not use an AI during cycle or what?

 

[raybeast]

What was the cause of this? AAS related or a medical condition?

Pharma Lady Rep

I haven't even started SARMS or anything but I had known my prolactin levels were rising back in December.

Went to a specialist and it kept rising. My test was all over the place. 90 one test, 500 the next test.

Long story short this was a preexisting medical that I finally got MRI confirmation on. I kind of knew for the past month or so but I finally got the blood test and pictures to have an official diagnosis

 

[rockmfhudd]

cool have you used aas in the past?

 

[raybeast]

did you not use an AI during cycle or what?

No, never needed an AI. I NEVER even had the chance to start a cycle of any kind yet because I knew my prolactin levels were elevated mixed with my other hormones all over the place with each test. Mainly Testosterone and Prolactin.

So I decided to a minI PCP with clo, nol and gw to keep me sane. Once I started that, my testosterone stayed up however my prolactin stayed high. So high prolactin can over rule all the effects of having good T levels.

 

[raybeast]

cool have you used aas in the past?

I am new to the anabolic world. Never have used anything anabolic.

 

[rockmfhudd]

damn man that's crazy but the body is a strange phenomenon

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

What was the cause of this? AAS related or a medical condition?

Pharma Lady Rep

^i was gonna ask the exact same thing

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

What about pro hormones have u ever used any ?

 

[raybeast]

What about pro hormones have u ever used any ?

Only thing I ever took was maybe 10mg of DHEA a day from the vitamin store and that was short lived. That was when I was when I was trying to get my test up before I knew my prolactin #s.

I think that is considered a pro hormones. Especially when my DHEA was above the charts on my very first test. So I stopped it. I may have used for 2 weeks.

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

Only thing I ever took was maybe 10mg of DHEA a day from the vitamin store and that was short lived. That was when I was when I was trying to get my test up before I knew my prolactin #s.

I think that is considered a pro hormones. Especially when my DHEA was above the charts on my very first test. So I stopped it. I may have used for 2 weeks.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8704732

 

[raybeast]

damn man that's crazy but the body is a strange phenomenon

Somehow my reply deleted itself.

Yea. My test is over 600 now with the help of clo, nol,.

I am considering AAS but I'm a total noob at that and I'm a novice at sarms.

It's the injection part that I'm worried about. Shaky hands, messing up a vein. I read somewhere that a wife was giving her husband injections straight into the musclAR tissue of the butt. I'm pretty sure that is b.s. but who knows.

If I go AAS route. I'm think Test Cyp and aro EOD 12.5mg

Not sure what to stack with it.

But first I have to let the Cabergoline do its job helping get my BF down to 12% because no matter the diet, I can get under 15%-18% at any time.

 

[raybeast]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8704732

Now that was a great read. Luckily I've been off DHEA for over 3 months now but it definitely could have contributed to my issue.

I'm glad I didn't go on it long term.

 

[raybeast]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8704732

Is pregnenolone considered a prohormone?

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

Is pregnenolone considered a prohormone?

That I'm not sure, I believe that is a hormone found in men as I read of that before but you will have to research for that. I believe there is a blood work panel for that

 

[raybeast]

That I'm not sure, I believe that is a hormone found in men as I read of that before but you will have to research for that. I believe there is a blood work panel for that

Got you. I did use a month supply of that last year sometime. Those guys in those vitamin stores sale you anything.

I can't remember the exact reason why I tried it but I remember it being higher up on the chain of hormones and that it is associated with Youth like hormone levels.

There should be a sticky thread about what Prohormones to avoid at all costs. Haha...I'm going to do a thorough search tonight on prohormones so I know what to avoid even in proprietary blends.

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

Got you. I did use a month supply of that last year sometime. Those guys in those vitamin stores sale you anything.

I can't remember the exact reason why I tried it but I remember it being higher up on the chain of hormones and that it is associated with Youth like hormone levels.

There should be a sticky thread about what Prohormones to avoid at all costs. Haha...I'm going to do a thorough search tonight on prohormones so I know what to avoid even in proprietary blends.

Ya that's pretty messed up how they sell whatever to whoever and don't care much bout it, some of them selling shit don't even have any idea whats really in alot of products. And being that its sold over the counter at a legitimate store people assume there shouldn't be any issues. Dam near predatory if you ask me

 

[RickRock]

That's pretty crazy man. It just goes to show the importance of continuous monitoring of bloodwork and how crucial it is to keep things within range. Thanks for sharing your story with us

(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

 

[raybeast]

That's pretty crazy man. It just goes to show the importance of continuous monitoring of bloodwork and how crucial it is to keep things within range. Thanks for sharing your story with us

(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

Just glad to be apart of the community. I've learned so much from you guys.

I won't commit as much error just by followimg guidelines of this community.