Somebody say the G word???? Gainz baby! I'm gonna get a case of chapstick and send it to 9th for shits and giggles since he insinuated my lips are so big I need a spray... Oh the inappropriateness.
Pro hormone advice needed
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Somebody say the G word???? Gainz baby! I'm gonna get a case of chapstick and send it to 9th for shits and giggles since he insinuated my lips are so big I need a spray... Oh the inappropriateness.
I think some people can be interested in prohormones because when you watch Dylan's videos about some PH like 4-andro, 1-andro, Halodrol, Beastdrol... with these videos there's neither hate, neither recommendation... it's like in between....
For example, with DNP, Clen, Cheque Drops... there are no question about it, it is a big NO, Dylan is 100% clear about these.
But with some prohormones, the videos are very entertaining, and for me there's not a precise recommandation about these, and it can be confusing for some people, for those not going on this forum, if you can take it or not
Understandably so and I think possibly it's a matter of reality versus what we would hope for. Any PH cycle will negate testosterone, unless you add it and if so you might as well just run a test cycle since you're pinning. Reality however dictates that there is a contingent of people out there that will use PH's for whatever reasons so to advise them on ones that are seemingly effective is at least the responsible thing to do. I've done PH's years and years ago and in all honestly they do work at a lower level than true AAS, but at a significant toll personally healthwise IMO. If you're gonna go enhanced... do it right is my opinion.
Yes I totally agree with you
Hey guys,
My stats are:
age 21 /height 6ft /weight between 73-75kg /body fat 8-9% cycle history did one short cycle of dbol only (first cycle because was curious about AAS and didn't want to use needle) then did a 10 week cycle of test and dbol in adequate time after first cycle. goals (currently) for the cycle at question just wanted to gain 10lbs of muscle within 4-6 weeks which is what these PH's are supposedly saying is possible/achieveable.
First of all I'm not hating on anyone I don't know why people always hate on people on forum sites being sarcastic and acting like because they know a whole lot of information someone who doesn't know the information that they know is automatically really stupid and they have to get this across with their comments but just remember there was a time when you also didn't know this information. And you can get your information across without being negative to people why chose negativity over positivity?
Now I do have a good enough knowledge of AAS on the other hand the only information I know about PH's is that apparently 1-andro is more potent than testosterone and is apparently safer because of how it passes through the liver.
My friend did a 4 week cycle of super DMZ 3.0 before 2 caps per day and he most definitely made some gains from it without any side effects.
So excuse me if I was wrong in anything that I have asked. And my mistake with stick of HGH, somebody I know was using HGH but he gave me a full pen of HGH and a half used pen of HGH.
The only reason why I wanted to use PH's is because of the results my friend made from the DMZ and from multiple logs that people have made of DMZ and logs of 1-andro also and I didn't want to have to go on such a long cycle again having my test shut down for multiple weeks while also having to use a needle.
I just wanted to do a 4-6 week cycle and these orals apparently seemed to be safer than regular AAS orals so I was thinking why not try them?
If any of you can guide me in the right direction, if I should go ahead with PH's or can you suggest a cycle to me where I might not have to inject again or what would you recommend to me like do an anavar only cycle or anadrol only cycle or anything at all, what would be good to just build mass in a short amount of time 4-6 weeks? If you really think I should be using test while on cycle then I may just go down that route again but if there is a good alternative that would be much appreciated by letting me know.
Thank you.
My stats are:
age 21 /height 6ft /weight between 73-75kg /body fat 8-9% cycle history did one short cycle of dbol only (first cycle because was curious about AAS and didn't want to use needle) then did a 10 week cycle of test and dbol in adequate time after first cycle. goals (currently) for the cycle at question just wanted to gain 10lbs of muscle within 4-6 weeks which is what these PH's are supposedly saying is possible/achieveable.
First of all I'm not hating on anyone I don't know why people always hate on people on forum sites being sarcastic and acting like because they know a whole lot of information someone who doesn't know the information that they know is automatically really stupid and they have to get this across with their comments but just remember there was a time when you also didn't know this information. And you can get your information across without being negative to people why chose negativity over positivity?
Now I do have a good enough knowledge of AAS on the other hand the only information I know about PH's is that apparently 1-andro is more potent than testosterone and is apparently safer because of how it passes through the liver.
My friend did a 4 week cycle of super DMZ 3.0 before 2 caps per day and he most definitely made some gains from it without any side effects.
So excuse me if I was wrong in anything that I have asked. And my mistake with stick of HGH, somebody I know was using HGH but he gave me a full pen of HGH and a half used pen of HGH.
The only reason why I wanted to use PH's is because of the results my friend made from the DMZ and from multiple logs that people have made of DMZ and logs of 1-andro also and I didn't want to have to go on such a long cycle again having my test shut down for multiple weeks while also having to use a needle.
I just wanted to do a 4-6 week cycle and these orals apparently seemed to be safer than regular AAS orals so I was thinking why not try them?
If any of you can guide me in the right direction, if I should go ahead with PH's or can you suggest a cycle to me where I might not have to inject again or what would you recommend to me like do an anavar only cycle or anadrol only cycle or anything at all, what would be good to just build mass in a short amount of time 4-6 weeks? If you really think I should be using test while on cycle then I may just go down that route again but if there is a good alternative that would be much appreciated by letting me know.
Thank you.
JackSteel
Banned
21 is too young for any hormones period. You're going to regret it when you're older. AND NO! 1-andro IS NOT MORE POTENT THAN TEST!!
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JackSteel
Banned
If you don't want to inject then stay away from steroids dude. You always need test and 1-andro is not going to cut it plus it's liver toxic. The reason people act like dicks (yes we can do that sometimes) is because if you had done enough reading of realinformation on your own instead of taking someone else's word for it all the time then you wouldn't be so uneducated. Read science, real studies in pubmed or else where and stop asking people you trust are educated. Don't take our word for it go read the actual science and you won't have to keep wondering who is telling the truth. If you want knowledge then get it straight from the scientists and doctors who do the studies and read lots and lots of them to make sure you understand perfectly. Asking questions on ANY forum is just asking for confusion and even if you do get true information you don't KNOW that for sure until you do your own research. Asking on a forum is not research. It's secondary.
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Personally if someone gave me a half used pen of HGH I'd be inclined to kick their ass. It's a needle that has pierced their skin and is possibly contaminated with who knows what. Might as well eat out a hooker as far as that goes. Yes, we can come across callous at times because a lot of people come here with the assumption that they are familiar with AAS and even we are still always learning new things ourselves, but when you make a statement such as 'My friend did a 4 week cycle of super DMZ 3.0 before 2 caps per day and he most definitely made some gains from it without any side effects' yes, he made gains, but I'm pretty sure although he 'felt' fine he was suppressed in some way at some level. Being 21 again it has been proven that there is no need for you to dabble with any type of PEDs. This generation of 'I want it now, fuck the waiting' is literally messing themselves up. I started lifting at age 12, hardcore at age 15 and am now 45. I built a passion for this. It's not a fad and will not suddenly pass. Even with all my ailments, aches and pains I lift and I try to build upon my body everyday. This is no faddish 'physique competitor' frame, I'm working for freakish slabs of muscle and I apologize if I seem biased. Just as fitness guys look at me and say that's too much, I look at them and say that's not enough. We like what we like and go about it as we see fit, BUT to recklessly go about taking things your buddy vouches for is insane. To think anything is more effective than test is absurd. Test is what God gave you... everything else anabolic is derived from test. Period.
if you watch closely... i generally always disclose that i am giving facts on what the marketing companies claim about them and i follow that up in saying, that i dont necessarily agree with a lot of it but i am simply giving the facts... although i do get quite anti on some things, i always say i am giving the facts and try to be bias but being as passionate as i am, sometimes that gets conveyed in a different manner... i do realize that but i can understand what you mean... there is an aura about pro hormones out there due to ease of use and it used to be, before the ban, the ease of acquisition of them... there is still this misconception on how effective they are... this gets misconstrued due to the fact that many that have used them have nothing to compare them to... they have done nothing but run pro hormones... when i first started, i thought helladrol was this amazing new concept etc. because although i had put so many years of study into steroids, i still never used then because i knew the consequences using at a younger age and i held back... it gets confusing when its the only thing you used... after i ran my first real cycle, and even my first sarms stack, which was just mk2866 and s4... at that time, there was no gw, no lgd, etc... those were the only options.. yet they were so much better than pro hormones and my first cycle, thats when i said fuck pro hormones, realized how big of a joke they truly were and i steered clear... its all a learning process and a new experience that is taken step by step...
SpikedEggnog
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Exactly bro. This is like a kid saying favorite food is peanut butter sandwich. Because you havent tried a moist sirloin. A kids pallette is undeveloped. They simply don't know yet. But we grow up and learn like you said.
absolutely... if you can understand at a young age that this is all a learning curve as opposed to thinking you know everything ( i was one of those at that age) then you will be far more successful in life in general...
Being honest I know my body and I'm not being stupid/careless with it, I eat very clean and healthy and organic and get all the nutrients that my body needs etc. daily, I take all precautions while on cycle I've also got a very good metabolism and immune system, I love bodybuilding naturally. The reason why I did the cycles to begin with was to give myself a head start it's easy for someone who's already born big to bodybuild naturally but me personally I was very small to begin with. The only reason why I want to do another cycle is because I know I will be happy with the size I will be after one last cycle so I can continue natural bodybuilding after this last one. I have no problem with using test again I only wanted to know if there was some alternative that I was not aware of or if there something that I didn't even know existed that was possible to use instead of test just to see if the needle was avoidable for simplicity of not having to do it.
If such a thing exists can someone please leave a reply?
If not, I think that something could have been a lot more effective than the dbol with the test, what would anyone recommend for the next cycle oral wise with test, like test and anavar or test and dbol or test and anadrol or test and dbol and andarol, just basically what is a good cycle to really bulk up so that I won't have to do another cycle again?
Also the pens of HGH was from a family member and it came with changeable needles it doesn't have one needle on it.
If such a thing exists can someone please leave a reply?
If not, I think that something could have been a lot more effective than the dbol with the test, what would anyone recommend for the next cycle oral wise with test, like test and anavar or test and dbol or test and anadrol or test and dbol and andarol, just basically what is a good cycle to really bulk up so that I won't have to do another cycle again?
Also the pens of HGH was from a family member and it came with changeable needles it doesn't have one needle on it.
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the cleanest way to bulk would be to run tbol with rad140 and lgd4033... you can get dbol like results without the sides... you will hear arguments for both dbol and anadrol because people have different body responses... if you want to limit sides and get the most sustainable gains, then the tbol and sarms combo is what i would highly recommend..
Yes thats the cycle
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1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 cycle assist
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week
pct 15-18
clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 cycle assist
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week
pct 15-18
clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
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