Post cycle therapy questions

[nashaborten]

Dylan,

I sure hope you get this email and are willing to respond because I am pretty lost here and could use some assistance from someone knowledgeable on the subject. I came across your youtube video while searching online for information about blocking estrogen. I am getting ready to take a supplement stack and am trying to prepare for PCT. The article I found you in gave three recommendations to use for PCT
1) Femara (Letrozole)
2) Arimidex (Anastrozole)
3) Aromasin (Exemestane)
The problem I am having is that every direction I turn says that to get ahold of any of these requires a prescription. So am I missing something here or am I supposed to go to my doctor and say, "hey doc, I plan on using steroids and need this AI so I don't fuck myself?" Please respond because I just don't think my doc is going to prescribe me a medicine I don't technically need. I'm pretty sure their response will be, "don't use the steroids." I really hope to hear from you soon. I already have my stack but am scared to take it unless I'm prepared for PCT. Thanks in advance

 

[SpikedEggnog]

Dylan,

I sure hope you get this email and are willing to respond because I am pretty lost here and could use some assistance from someone knowledgeable on the subject. I came across your youtube video while searching online for information about blocking estrogen. I am getting ready to take a supplement stack and am trying to prepare for PCT. The article I found you in gave three recommendations to use for PCT
1) Femara (Letrozole)
2) Arimidex (Anastrozole)
3) Aromasin (Exemestane)
The problem I am having is that every direction I turn says that to get ahold of any of these requires a prescription. So am I missing something here or am I supposed to go to my doctor and say, "hey doc, I plan on using steroids and need this AI so I don't fuck myself?" Please respond because I just don't think my doc is going to prescribe me a medicine I don't technically need. I'm pretty sure their response will be, "don't use the steroids." I really hope to hear from you soon. I already have my stack but am scared to take it unless I'm prepared for PCT. Thanks in advance

supplement stack?? Bro, come on....

PCT or on cycle AI?? you should be using Aromasin on cycle and also for PCT. pharmalady has aromasin, pm me for a price list.
First of all, what is your planned cycle? and what are your stats?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Dylan,

I sure hope you get this email and are willing to respond because I am pretty lost here and could use some assistance from someone knowledgeable on the subject. I came across your youtube video while searching online for information about blocking estrogen. I am getting ready to take a supplement stack and am trying to prepare for PCT. The article I found you in gave three recommendations to use for PCT
1) Femara (Letrozole)
2) Arimidex (Anastrozole)
3) Aromasin (Exemestane)
The problem I am having is that every direction I turn says that to get ahold of any of these requires a prescription. So am I missing something here or am I supposed to go to my doctor and say, "hey doc, I plan on using steroids and need this AI so I don't fuck myself?" Please respond because I just don't think my doc is going to prescribe me a medicine I don't technically need. I'm pretty sure their response will be, "don't use the steroids." I really hope to hear from you soon. I already have my stack but am scared to take it unless I'm prepared for PCT. Thanks in advance

bro, this is absurd.. what do you mean a supplement stack? you should never start a cycle without all your ancillaries and pct on hand... what are your stats? age/height/weight/body fat? how long have you been training?

 

[RickRock]

Dylan,

I sure hope you get this email and are willing to respond because I am pretty lost here and could use some assistance from someone knowledgeable on the subject. I came across your youtube video while searching online for information about blocking estrogen. I am getting ready to take a supplement stack and am trying to prepare for PCT. The article I found you in gave three recommendations to use for PCT
1) Femara (Letrozole)
2) Arimidex (Anastrozole)
3) Aromasin (Exemestane)
The problem I am having is that every direction I turn says that to get ahold of any of these requires a prescription. So am I missing something here or am I supposed to go to my doctor and say, "hey doc, I plan on using steroids and need this AI so I don't fuck myself?" Please respond because I just don't think my doc is going to prescribe me a medicine I don't technically need. I'm pretty sure their response will be, "don't use the steroids." I really hope to hear from you soon. I already have my stack but am scared to take it unless I'm prepared for PCT. Thanks in advance

By supplement stack do you mean a cycle? What exactly are you running? What is your full stats, experience, and goals?

(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

 

[nashaborten]

Thanks to all of the forum members who have responded so far. My origional post was emailed to a guy whos video I saw on youtube. I asked him my question and he set this account up for me and posted my question here, which I am greatful for because now I will hopefully obtain all the information I lack on this overwhelming subject. I appoligize if it was written incorrectly and lacking information. 10 years ago I took supplements purchased from GNC, Phera-plex which I think was HGH, and 6OXO for an estrogen blocker. I was in my early 20's and didn't know much......So I took them both at the same time for approximately 3 months and got amazing results. When I stopped the HGH, I stopped the estrogen blocker and voila, I got GYNO. I didn't even know such a thing exsisted until I was cursed with it. So I had a terrible surgery to remove it and what do ya know.......they screwed it all up and I still have it badly. Thats why I'm here now. I used supplements incorrectly in the past and went from standing tall and looking good, to hanging my head in shame with zero confidence or self esteem. When they told me I would have scars, I said wonderful, I can live with scars, I can't live with breasts! So you see I have no other choice, I got the surgery, I have dieted and starved myself to death, I've trained hard with proper nutrition, yet I still have boobs. So if my understanding of PCT or a general stack cycle is all jacked up, please I welcome all information. I just know that the last thing I want is to worsten my situation by being misinformed and randomly use supplements like I did last time. So a member already mentioned that I was crazy to start without having all my stuff on hand.....I agree which is why I haven't started taking anything yet. I purchased this stack

http://ssenhancements.com/product/supreme-stack/

and I would love if the members here could advise me on how to keep my estrogen in check while I use this so that I can minimize the risks involved with gyno. I know from personal experience when altering hormone levels theres always a risk so I need your help. I had planned on taking this stuff for at least an 8-10 week period or until results helped hide my current breast points. To answer the other questions I have been trainging on and off for 15 years. 8 months ago I was 245 lbs. I've currently been training for 8 months strait 6 days a week. I'm 35 years old, 5'11", 191 lbs, 19% body fat, and my goals are to put on muscle mass as I did in the past to try and minimize the appearence of my gyno. I ask the members here to please respond with your help. Thanks again.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks to all of the forum members who have responded so far. My origional post was emailed to a guy whos video I saw on youtube. I asked him my question and he set this account up for me and posted my question here, which I am greatful for because now I will hopefully obtain all the information I lack on this overwhelming subject. I appoligize if it was written incorrectly and lacking information. 10 years ago I took supplements purchased from GNC, Phera-plex which I think was HGH, and 6OXO for an estrogen blocker. I was in my early 20's and didn't know much......So I took them both at the same time for approximately 3 months and got amazing results. When I stopped the HGH, I stopped the estrogen blocker and voila, I got GYNO. I didn't even know such a thing exsisted until I was cursed with it. So I had a terrible surgery to remove it and what do ya know.......they screwed it all up and I still have it badly. Thats why I'm here now. I used supplements incorrectly in the past and went from standing tall and looking good, to hanging my head in shame with zero confidence or self esteem. When they told me I would have scars, I said wonderful, I can live with scars, I can't live with breasts! So you see I have no other choice, I got the surgery, I have dieted and starved myself to death, I've trained hard with proper nutrition, yet I still have boobs. So if my understanding of PCT or a general stack cycle is all jacked up, please I welcome all information. I just know that the last thing I want is to worsten my situation by being misinformed and randomly use supplements like I did last time. So a member already mentioned that I was crazy to start without having all my stuff on hand.....I agree which is why I haven't started taking anything yet. I purchased this stack

http://ssenhancements.com/product/supreme-stack/

and I would love if the members here could advise me on how to keep my estrogen in check while I use this so that I can minimize the risks involved with gyno. I know from personal experience when altering hormone levels theres always a risk so I need your help. I had planned on taking this stuff for at least an 8-10 week period or until results helped hide my current breast points. To answer the other questions I have been trainging on and off for 15 years. 8 months ago I was 245 lbs. I've currently been training for 8 months strait 6 days a week. I'm 35 years old, 5'11", 191 lbs, 19% body fat, and my goals are to put on muscle mass as I did in the past to try and minimize the appearence of my gyno. I ask the members here to please respond with your help. Thanks again.

the "guy" you emailed is ME bro... you cannot and i repeat CANNOT use any sort of steroid... not only do you have gyno but your body fat is way too high... you dont understand anything about steroid use, which is fine but did you not already learn a lesson once... bro, PHERA PLEX is a MILLION MILES away from hgh... fuck man... i cant believe you even said that... you can't buy HGH at gnc LOLLLL come on man.. phera plex is basically madol... that is NOT EVEN CLOSE to hgh... thats just absurdity... it is a very wet pro hormone but it does not convert to estrogen... you have gyno from it because you did run a proper pct and you now have rebound... i have no clue who you went to for your treatment but thats not a surgery that gets botched often... where did you go? you need to go to a plastic surgeon if anything... of course you have low self esteem... you need to get bloodwork done before anything and then you need to find a doctor that actually knows what he is doing... you can get your bloodwork done here... http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php

get your bloodwork done so we can see where you are at and the possible treatments... chances are you cannot treat your gyno with anything at this point.. you can try an anti gyno protocol but if that does not work, you need to go back to the doctor... DO NOT use steroids until this is fixed and your body fat is down in the 12-13% range... i can recommend sarms to help get your body fat down... if your not familiar with sarms, start by reading my articles here... https://www.isarms.com/selective-androgen-receptor-modulators

you need to get everything else addressed first and then i can set you up a strong sarms cycle...

 

[nashaborten]

First of all I just wanted to say thanks for setting me up in this forum. Secondly, even though you posted my email which had your name in it, I didn't want to openly use your name in a forum without your consent. So I appoligize and hope you did not feel disrespected when I posted earlier and said "a guy."
You're absolutely correct when stating, "I don't know anything about steroid use" because I don't. Pro hormone, HGH, Testosterone booster, Steroid, Juice, Gear, PCT, AI, LH, FSH, ect ect ect.......100% I don't know shit! So you asked, "did I not already learn a lesson once?" Oh I unfortunately learned a lesson, and the hard way at that. I took a buch of shit that I didn't understand at all. Thats why I'm here to get the valuable input that you have offered. So I had hoped that when getting the surgery it was going to make it all go away but a botched job it was. I am a veteran of the US Military and got my surgery done through the VA. I have come to realize they aren't good for much. So a plastic surgery job is my next stop. I already have a bloodwork appointment on October 6th for other reasons but would gladly request the tests you need results from if you would inform me which ones to get. I am going to start reading your sarms articles now. Can you recommend the sarms to get my bodyfat down to the 12-13%? Thanks for taking the time to help me.

 

[nashaborten]

the "guy" you emailed is ME bro... you cannot and i repeat CANNOT use any sort of steroid... not only do you have gyno but your body fat is way too high... you dont understand anything about steroid use, which is fine but did you not already learn a lesson once... bro, PHERA PLEX is a MILLION MILES away from hgh... fuck man... i cant believe you even said that... you can't buy HGH at gnc LOLLLL come on man.. phera plex is basically madol... that is NOT EVEN CLOSE to hgh... thats just absurdity... it is a very wet pro hormone but it does not convert to estrogen... you have gyno from it because you did run a proper pct and you now have rebound... i have no clue who you went to for your treatment but thats not a surgery that gets botched often... where did you go? you need to go to a plastic surgeon if anything... of course you have low self esteem... you need to get bloodwork done before anything and then you need to find a doctor that actually knows what he is doing... you can get your bloodwork done here... http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php

get your bloodwork done so we can see where you are at and the possible treatments... chances are you cannot treat your gyno with anything at this point.. you can try an anti gyno protocol but if that does not work, you need to go back to the doctor... DO NOT use steroids until this is fixed and your body fat is down in the 12-13% range... i can recommend sarms to help get your body fat down... if your not familiar with sarms, start by reading my articles here... https://www.isarms.com/selective-androgen-receptor-modulators

you need to get everything else addressed first and then i can set you up a strong sarms cycle...

So I went to your sarms article link and read the whole thing as well as watched the videos attached. That was informative and well put together information. If I were to tell you I had a full understanding of sarms i'd be lying but I did grasp the fact that sarms is the better route to take. Thanks for hooking me up with that link. Can you recommend the sarms I can use to get my bodyfat down? Thanks again.

 

[SpikedEggnog]

First of all I just wanted to say thanks for setting me up in this forum. Secondly, even though you posted my email which had your name in it, I didn't want to openly use your name in a forum without your consent. So I appoligize and hope you did not feel disrespected when I posted earlier and said "a guy."
You're absolutely correct when stating, "I don't know anything about steroid use" because I don't. Pro hormone, HGH, Testosterone booster, Steroid, Juice, Gear, PCT, AI, LH, FSH, ect ect ect.......100% I don't know shit! So you asked, "did I not already learn a lesson once?" Oh I unfortunately learned a lesson, and the hard way at that. I took a buch of shit that I didn't understand at all. Thats why I'm here to get the valuable input that you have offered. So I had hoped that when getting the surgery it was going to make it all go away but a botched job it was. I am a veteran of the US Military and got my surgery done through the VA. I have come to realize they aren't good for much. So a plastic surgery job is my next stop. I already have a bloodwork appointment on October 6th for other reasons but would gladly request the tests you need results from if you would inform me which ones to get. I am going to start reading your sarms articles now. Can you recommend the sarms to get my bodyfat down to the 12-13%? Thanks for taking the time to help me.

Bro, his name is on his Screen Name......come on..

I am a veteran as well, and the VA is GARBAGE bro. dont ever do any serious medical treatment with them. this is why it is free healthcare, because it is TRASH.

with your current situation i would try an Anti Gyno protocol and then also SARMS to get your bodyfat down, remember SARMS are WITH proper diet and training. if you dont diet and train then forget SARMS. and stay away from pro hormones. the "estrogen blockers" you get at GNC are straight trash bro they dont block piss, that is all garbage, stay away from it

 

[DylanGemelli]

First of all I just wanted to say thanks for setting me up in this forum. Secondly, even though you posted my email which had your name in it, I didn't want to openly use your name in a forum without your consent. So I appoligize and hope you did not feel disrespected when I posted earlier and said "a guy."
You're absolutely correct when stating, "I don't know anything about steroid use" because I don't. Pro hormone, HGH, Testosterone booster, Steroid, Juice, Gear, PCT, AI, LH, FSH, ect ect ect.......100% I don't know shit! So you asked, "did I not already learn a lesson once?" Oh I unfortunately learned a lesson, and the hard way at that. I took a buch of shit that I didn't understand at all. Thats why I'm here to get the valuable input that you have offered. So I had hoped that when getting the surgery it was going to make it all go away but a botched job it was. I am a veteran of the US Military and got my surgery done through the VA. I have come to realize they aren't good for much. So a plastic surgery job is my next stop. I already have a bloodwork appointment on October 6th for other reasons but would gladly request the tests you need results from if you would inform me which ones to get. I am going to start reading your sarms articles now. Can you recommend the sarms to get my bodyfat down to the 12-13%? Thanks for taking the time to help me.

damn bro... i had no idea you had that done by the va... that explains everything... a plastic surgeon will not botch it at all.. i was in and out for mine in 45 minutes... 3-4 weeks and i was good to go... generally, depending upon the surgeon, you are looking at about 3500-4500 for the procedure but its well worth it and then some...

here is the route to go for your sarms stack.. here are the links for everything you need followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=124&search=enhanced

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini

1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[RickRock]

The enhanced super stack is exactly what you want to go with here for your goals. That's going to be the perfect sarms stack to help you out.

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/enhanced-super-stack-12-weeks

1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)



PCT

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

 

[DylanGemelli]

let me know if you have any questions and also if you need help finding a good plastic surgeon to perform your surgery.. i can always help with that as well..

 

[nashaborten]

let me know if you have any questions and also if you need help finding a good plastic surgeon to perform your surgery.. i can always help with that as well..

I am very thankful for the time and effort you have spent passing me this information. I'm glad I came across your youtube channel which led me here. Now I at least have a better idea how to go about accomplishing my goals. You said my body fat was to high so I guess I'll continue to cut until I reach 12-13%, get my bloodwork done, and look into plastic surgery before I think about using SARMS. I found 3 surgeons near my house with 5 star reviews but if you happened to have a recommendation of one in Phoenix AZ I'll check that out. Thanks againg for setting this account up for me and giving me your unfiltered honest input on my situation. You helped me more than I could ever tell you.

 

[nashaborten]

let me know if you have any questions and also if you need help finding a good plastic surgeon to perform your surgery.. i can always help with that as well..

I do have a question if you don't mind elaborating on it for me.....you said,

"you have gyno from it because you did run a proper pct and you now have rebound"

So in the past I took the Phera-plex (pro-hormone(got it right this time)) and 6-oxo (estrogen blocker) for I think about a 10-12 weeks at the same time then quit taking both. If you don't mind please i'd like to know what you meant by "rebound" or basically how could I have done it differently to avoid gyno? If I would had taken only the pro-hormone for 12 weeks then stopped and started the 6-oxo for 12 weeks would I have been good? Or was it the 6-oxo that screwed me? I'm lost, but PLEASE, i'd be greatful if you could set me strait. Thanks!

 

[DylanGemelli]

I do have a question if you don't mind elaborating on it for me.....you said,

"you have gyno from it because you did run a proper pct and you now have rebound"

So in the past I took the Phera-plex (pro-hormone(got it right this time)) and 6-oxo (estrogen blocker) for I think about a 10-12 weeks at the same time then quit taking both. If you don't mind please i'd like to know what you meant by "rebound" or basically how could I have done it differently to avoid gyno? If I would had taken only the pro-hormone for 12 weeks then stopped and started the 6-oxo for 12 weeks would I have been good? Or was it the 6-oxo that screwed me? I'm lost, but PLEASE, i'd be greatful if you could set me strait. Thanks!

this is a clear indication of your lack of understanding what you were doing... 6 oxo is going to do next to nothing for you... You are trying to be reliant on something that is not even a true aromatase inhibitor... aromasin is a suicide inhibitor... this means it will kill estrogen, not suppress it.... you MUST use aromasin in pct to prevent rebound... it also increases igf levels which helps for a more rapid recovery.. are you completely insane taking a pro hormone that long? you should NEVER exceed 6 weeks on a pro hormone and many only do 4 weeks on phera plex.. its no wonder you have so many problems man... you basically did not research a thing before you ran that because i cant imagine anyone giving that horrible of advice and if they did, they should have their ass kicked...

 

[DylanGemelli]

I am very thankful for the time and effort you have spent passing me this information. I'm glad I came across your youtube channel which led me here. Now I at least have a better idea how to go about accomplishing my goals. You said my body fat was to high so I guess I'll continue to cut until I reach 12-13%, get my bloodwork done, and look into plastic surgery before I think about using SARMS. I found 3 surgeons near my house with 5 star reviews but if you happened to have a recommendation of one in Phoenix AZ I'll check that out. Thanks againg for setting this account up for me and giving me your unfiltered honest input on my situation. You helped me more than I could ever tell you.

I know many plastic surgeons who i have worked with and so i have a strong referral for you...

Dr. Jeffrey Ptak
9431 E. Ironwood Square Drive
Scottsdale, AZ 85258
(480) 451-9220

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[nashaborten]

this is a clear indication of your lack of understanding what you were doing... 6 oxo is going to do next to nothing for you... You are trying to be reliant on something that is not even a true aromatase inhibitor... aromasin is a suicide inhibitor... this means it will kill estrogen, not suppress it.... you MUST use aromasin in pct to prevent rebound... it also increases igf levels which helps for a more rapid recovery.. are you completely insane taking a pro hormone that long? you should NEVER exceed 6 weeks on a pro hormone and many only do 4 weeks on phera plex.. its no wonder you have so many problems man... you basically did not research a thing before you ran that because i cant imagine anyone giving that horrible of advice and if they did, they should have their ass kicked...

You are absolutely right. I didn't know shit. I was young and naive. 24 years old and stationed in Bahgdad Iraq. Did my patrols 8-10hrs daily then spent all my down time in the gym. My mindset was, if I bought the stuff from places like GNC, Hi-Health ect. that I had nothing to worry about because I wasn't using a needle so I must be good to go. So I did what every uneducated naive dumbass would do and spent a shit ton of money buying supplements to take with the assumption, "this can't hurt me if theres no needle involved". I guess when the massive gains started coming and I had nothing but gains and no side effects I just kept eating them like candy. So I never did any research because I figured GNC = good to go. Shit I thought, I buy protein powder, creatine, pre workout and no research necessary so let me get some of this and that too. So now you might see why I thought I somewhat had the right idea by using the 6 oxo. Buy them both from the same spot......this one boosts, that one blocks,.......thought I was good to go! So anyway thanks again for helping over these last couple days, I really appreciate it. Once my body is ready I can't wait to try these sarms. Also thanks for the surgeon referral!

 

[nashaborten]

The enhanced super stack is exactly what you want to go with here for your goals. That's going to be the perfect sarms stack to help you out.

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/enhanced-super-stack-12-weeks

1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)



PCT

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

Thanks for recommending a stack for me and taking the time to detail it out in time frame and doses. I appreciate your input on my goals.

 

[RickRock]

Thanks for recommending a stack for me and taking the time to detail it out in time frame and doses. I appreciate your input on my goals.

You're welcome! It's my pleasure to help brother. Feel free to ask any other questions you may have as well

 

[FitIronBrother]

I am very thankful for the time and effort you have spent passing me this information. I'm glad I came across your youtube channel which led me here. Now I at least have a better idea how to go about accomplishing my goals. You said my body fat was to high so I guess I'll continue to cut until I reach 12-13%, get my bloodwork done, and look into plastic surgery before I think about using SARMS. I found 3 surgeons near my house with 5 star reviews but if you happened to have a recommendation of one in Phoenix AZ I'll check that out. Thanks againg for setting this account up for me and giving me your unfiltered honest input on my situation. You helped me more than I could ever tell you.

Yeah Dylan definitely has put in time to educate folks, I too got to learn about him via his YouTube videos.

Thank you Dylan!


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