organic chemistry

[jr1474]

lol..Jack drb is what you would call eccentric,esoteric etc. He is a Mensa with an extremely high IQ. In college he got to BS degrees within 3 years..one in Chemistry and another in Microbiology. He then went to Oxford and got an MS in chemical pharmacology. They when he grew up and decided what he wanted to do for living he went to vet school. He specialized in large farm animals and was also in demand as a race horse surgeon.He was also very fascinated with weightlifting, diet,nutrition, and developing and making PED's. He did many things diet wise and drug wise that were just experiments that today is common knowledge.He is also one of the kindest and gentlest men that you will ever meet. He set his sons up in businesses that included farming,personal training, etc.
He is brilliant,funny and always readt to help. He has retired to Costa Rica, but still stays busy working out like a fiend and farming nannas and p apples, as he says.
The last time I workedout with him he went lb for lb , rep for rep and set for set with me. I have to post this old pic of him..I guess he was 30ish, and swore that you could cut on dbol.Ofcourse in those days not a lot of folks new what dbol was, and he was only one of a few that totally understood keto diets. He is a good guy.

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Wowza!!! Nice pic[emoji4]

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[ErTetris]

So what % of test are we really getting when we shoot 100mgs of test cypionate? Ok the test weighs 288gms and the entire molecule weighs 412. So test cyp is actually only 69.9% test. So if we shoot 100mgs then we get 69.9 mgs from it.Yet if we shoot test prop it is 83.7% test, so 100mgs of test prop delivers 83.7mgs of test.
The reason is that the proprionic acid is a short chain so the ratio of test to the entire ester is close to each other. The smaller the chain the more test it delivers.

The drawback is the half life! Next post

Keep coming with science, those topics are very helpful to understand.

Does it mean that if my test cyp vial says 200mg/ml I'm not getting the full 200mg of test but only 69.9%? Just as an example, if I want to use 500mg test cyp per week I have to inject 30% (150mg) more to reach 500mg per week dose?

Do you know how much Primobolan 100mg/ml we getting in percentage? Another example, if I'm trying to get 750mg per week of primo, should I shoot for more?

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[ErTetris]

Drb since sust and eta are your preferred, how often should sust be injected to take advantage of the short ester prop?

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[ErTetris]

Drb and Jack let's collect the science together in one location, it makes it easy to find. Would be nice having a dedicated science and bro-science section on the forum.



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[Jake]

Keep coming with science, those topics are very helpful to understand.

Does it mean that if my test cyp vial says 200mg/ml I'm not getting the full 200mg of test but only 69.9%? Just as an example, if I want to use 500mg test cyp per week I have to inject 30% (150mg) more to reach 500mg per week dose?

Do you know how much Primobolan 100mg/ml we getting in percentage? Another example, if I'm trying to get 750mg per week of primo, should I shoot for more?

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Drb does not post much anymore,but the answer to your question is that it actually becomes insignificant when you are using 200mg and above. So lets say you shoot 200 cyp and you shoot 1 ml. That means you got about 140mgs of test. If you shot 2 mls then you got 280mgs. If you shot 1/2 cc then you 69.9mgs. So you loose a little bit of test or deca or whatever when it is hooked to a long chain. It is best not to worry about it. Just say 200 cyp and don't worry about the mgs.Unless you really want an exact amounbt of mgs then go ahead and adjust.
For primobolan you get 72.8 mgs primo per 100mgs . Again...I would not worry about it. Just figure out how much cyp you want and go for it. Drb's post was just for chemical information and education. I don't think he meant to adjust your doses.

 

[Jake]

Drb since sust and eta are your preferred, how often should sust be injected to take advantage of the short ester prop?

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I would go with twice per week.

 

[cmb5017]

I would go with twice per week.

Jake I would love to meet u and Ur dad. Maybe next year if he comes visit we could hang out a few days for like a training session. Y'all can teach me steroidology,diets,training routeens and just shoot the Shit and have a good time. That'd be awesome

 

[ErTetris]

Drb does not post much anymore,but the answer to your question is that it actually becomes insignificant when you are using 200mg and above. So lets say you shoot 200 cyp and you shoot 1 ml. That means you got about 140mgs of test. If you shot 2 mls then you got 280mgs. If you shot 1/2 cc then you 69.9mgs. So you loose a little bit of test or deca or whatever when it is hooked to a long chain. It is best not to worry about it. Just say 200 cyp and don't worry about the mgs.Unless you really want an exact amounbt of mgs then go ahead and adjust.
For primobolan you get 72.8 mgs primo per 100mgs . Again...I would not worry about it. Just figure out how much cyp you want and go for it. Drb's post was just for chemical information and education. I don't think he meant to adjust your doses.

Got it, thanks!

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