Novice SARM Question
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BP i take late every evening since I take the osta AM before my workout. HR is throughout the day. Literally the day I started, my hr jumped from 51>63, and lifts I've been doing for years instead of being in the 100-110 Max range, I'm hitting cardio levels of 125-135 on big exertion.
Let off the osta over the weekend and by sunday HR and BP had dropped abit, not much but abit. At least Bp wasnt pre-hypertensive, but a few points under 140.
The only fly in the ointment, is I'm also taking MK-677, so hit that 7 pound water weight gain, but that was spread over a week, but HR logs literally started the day I took the osta.
Even as I just sit here at my desk, HR is 62, and normally would be probably 55, but I hit the osta again this morning.
Let off the osta over the weekend and by sunday HR and BP had dropped abit, not much but abit. At least Bp wasnt pre-hypertensive, but a few points under 140.
The only fly in the ointment, is I'm also taking MK-677, so hit that 7 pound water weight gain, but that was spread over a week, but HR logs literally started the day I took the osta.
Even as I just sit here at my desk, HR is 62, and normally would be probably 55, but I hit the osta again this morning.
so as you said, you are retaining water while using mk677, which can clearly increase your blood pressure as well...
The only real way to tell is run it solo from scratch... I have a feeling when you get your water controlled with 677 that it will return to a normal level... Anything else you were previously taking or taking now? Added stress?
7 lbs of water from MK-677? That's pretty insane bro. I think that could be contributing to the BP issues big time. I don't retain any water on MK-677, and you shouldn't if you have the right diet with the right amount of water and potassium consumed per day
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I'm doing a sort of odd stack. Three fold intent.
1> Boost test ( 560 pre stack)
2> Cut
3> Ligament and tendonitis control.
With that I'm splitting clomid and nolvadex as a test booster. (probably should have used hcg, but I'm a pinning pussy)
mk-677 for tendons.
gw-50156/ostarine/cardarine
e3d aromasin.
No added stress.
I totally agree on the water retention and elevated BP. Oh, also a diuretic so I'd at least start to pee. I was corked up big time...
Thank you all so much for the help and pointers.
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lysine, proline and vit C for joints, as well as glucosamine.
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bro, what are you doing? why in the world would you be dosing clomid and nolvdex for extended periods of time? they are not test boosters nor is hcg... hcg is only to be used 4 weeks at a time... it will suppress you after extended use and clomid and nolvadex are not test boosters... they are used to KICKSTART hpta in pct but not over long periods... this is definitely part of the problem
No they are not used as test boosters and i would love it if you would post the info you have saying that... You use them in pct, as i already said, to kickstart production of testosterone again but you dont use them as an every day "test booster" at all
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16422830
But just a google searchhttps://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=clomid+as+a+test+booster
yields both PCT usage and non pct usage threads.
Specifically here's just one of many...
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wKSEaw3pNGcJ:anabolicminds.com/forum/otc-drug/113245-clomid-test-booster.html+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
or
http://shiramillermd.com/blog/clomid-men-testosterone-alternative.html
Thus my confusion in your statement. There are other threads where doctors have prescribed clomid in place of trt.
Thats why I went this route.
But just a google searchhttps://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=clomid+as+a+test+booster
yields both PCT usage and non pct usage threads.
Specifically here's just one of many...
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wKSEaw3pNGcJ:anabolicminds.com/forum/otc-drug/113245-clomid-test-booster.html+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
or
http://shiramillermd.com/blog/clomid-men-testosterone-alternative.html
Thus my confusion in your statement. There are other threads where doctors have prescribed clomid in place of trt.
Thats why I went this route.
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Dylan or RickRock,
I know you recommend SARMSX. I think this board is hosted or sponsored by them. However, I'm having a difficult time ordering from them. Would you be willing to provide the name of another company that sells "real" sarms? Thank you.
There is absolutely no problem at all ordering from sarmsx bro. What is your problem?
I can say honestly there's not one other company I will endorse. I don't recommend subpar products and nothing out there I've used has compared to sarmsx
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Clomid and nolvadex can both boost test yes. That's why it's recommended for pct. However they are nothing you want to stay on long term at all bro
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yet these all fail to speak on clomid and nolvadex both eventually lowering igf and hgh levels... the fact clomid can cause huge emotional problems with extended use as well as vision problems... the fact that nolvadex can increase prolactin and the fact that these are both used for treatment of breast cancer... im sorry but im not recommending anyone stay on these for extended periods of time because its not going to end up well... they are a MUST for recovery for sure and you have no pct without them but they are not extended use drugs...
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