New year bulker!!

[wheytech]

I would do this....

Sust 300mg EW 1-18
EQ 800mg EW 1-18
Deca 600mg EW 1-16
Tbol 1-7 50mg ED

As for the oral if it does more harm that good dont fuck with it. I wouldnt add an oral to this cysle anyway with the exception of tbol. I put 7 weeks in there because thats the sweet spot for me personally. IDK about anyone else but just a ersonal prefference.

I would also add GW. Your gonna compete again? Just cause youre bulking dont slack off on cardio. It builds good habbits and keeps the blood a movin.

I dont know how you train but you could even add MK. I know when I bulk I lift heavy. Real heavy. I owe any and all thickness to picking up heavy ass shit.

Save the tren for your prep or when you begin that. You dont want to run tren more than you have to. Man that shit wrecks youre body lol. Very harsh shit. Your bulk should be enjoyable not miserable. Hell any cycle should be enjoyable! Tren makes me feel like shit towords the end. Tren is the big guns you keep hidden till the real war starts.

Do you B&C or are you gonna pct?

What AI's do you have. You would need exemestane or sure and caber for the deca.

I dont like balloon cycles either so thats why i left dbol out or anadrol. Remember you need to drop all this weight ypu pack on going into another show lol. I learned the hard way that getting as big as I can possibly get is not necessarily the right thing to do. Quality or quantity.

Shit, sustanon mby thats the answer! Lol. Thanks bro.
I will be doing gw and still do cardio.
Im right withb yah, important to keep good habbits like cardio! My sessions are better to because of it.
Mk would prob be a good ide couse i lift heavy to during bulks. Heavy AF!! Lol. Also do push/pull/legs wich can absolutely destroy me some weeks!
I hear you on saving the tren for when i need it. Been battling my self on that one.. sleep issues can take its toll and hinder gains to a degree.
Yeah, i blast and cruise now.
Always run exemestane and caber with the compounds needed for it.
I try to stay lean year around so i dont need to drop as much and go threw that rollercoaster. Lol. Started my diett pre show at 9.2 bf%, so around theres where im at my max comfort level i would say. Hate being fat. Lol

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

I had a couple of weeks i Thailand last year while on tren and you can by whatever you want at the pharmacy. Got a couple av valium's for sleep and i tell you, ive never looked good! Lol

^Lol valium or xanax im sure would do wonders, but dam..

 

[wheytech]

Fuck sorry for all the typo's etc, im scandinavian. Lol..

 

[wheytech]

^Lol valium or xanax im sure would do wonders, but dam..

Lol. Only on holliday's!!

 

[DylanGemelli]

i've never once had eq increase my appetite at all... i use it to straight cut but everyone gets affected different and also the dose can matter to some as well... i get it up to a gram a week with no such issue but difficult to say... some absolutely cannot eat on tren at all while others use it as an opportunity to eat whatever they want and just smash all day knowing tren melts the fat away... its just about finding what works with your body

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hey guy's

Planing my winter bulker and thinking about switching some compounds. My plan was:

1-18 EQ 800mg
4 -18Test E 250mg
8-18 Tren E 500mg
1-4/6 Tbol 40-60mg

I dont handle orals very well, but im thinking about changing they way i take em and take less. I usually take half dose in the am and half dose pre workout, but last time around i had terrible gastronomich problems. Vomiting while working 1-2 hourse later after am dosing etc. So mby less gear and more spread out over the day?
Or.. kick with NPP? Ive never done deca before but ive seen alot of good things here lately about it and looks intriguing... Could this be a better alternative for my bulker? 150-200mg eod for 8 weeks?

Feel free to chime in!

hey bro... i know a lot of people who have issues with orals and in actuality, we pretty much all do but certain things get overlooked and then you realize when you stop taking them that they were the culprit all along... the key is to run either lower doses or lower periods of time... i see excellent results with winstrol at only 25 mg per day and don't get any sort of sides whatsoever... generally my sides with orals are related to lethargy or headaches etc. and it always seems to occur towards week 5 or so... perhaps try tbol at only 30 mg per day and see how you respond.. have a sick layout for your bulk

1-18 sustanon 250 mg per day
1-18 eq 800 mg week
7-18 tren e 500 mg week
1-20 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
7-18 dostinex .5 mg e3d
1-18 proviron 50 mg day
1-6 tbol 30 mg day
1-6 cycle assist
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
7-18 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
5-18 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
15-18 hcg 1000 ius week


pct 19-22

clomid 50/50/25/25

nolva 40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod

mk-2866 25 mg day

gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[DylanGemelli]

I would do this....

Sust 300mg EW 1-18
EQ 800mg EW 1-18
Deca 600mg EW 1-16
Tbol 1-7 50mg ED

As for the oral if it does more harm that good dont fuck with it. I wouldnt add an oral to this cysle anyway with the exception of tbol. I put 7 weeks in there because thats the sweet spot for me personally. IDK about anyone else but just a ersonal prefference.

I would also add GW. Your gonna compete again? Just cause youre bulking dont slack off on cardio. It builds good habbits and keeps the blood a movin.

I dont know how you train but you could even add MK. I know when I bulk I lift heavy. Real heavy. I owe any and all thickness to picking up heavy ass shit.

Save the tren for your prep or when you begin that. You dont want to run tren more than you have to. Man that shit wrecks youre body lol. Very harsh shit. Your bulk should be enjoyable not miserable. Hell any cycle should be enjoyable! Tren makes me feel like shit towords the end. Tren is the big guns you keep hidden till the real war starts.

Do you B&C or are you gonna pct?

What AI's do you have. You would need exemestane or sure and caber for the deca.

I dont like balloon cycles either so thats why i left dbol out or anadrol. Remember you need to drop all this weight ypu pack on going into another show lol. I learned the hard way that getting as big as I can possibly get is not necessarily the right thing to do. Quality or quantity.

good call on the sust bro!

 

[wheytech]

i've never once had eq increase my appetite at all... i use it to straight cut but everyone gets affected different and also the dose can matter to some as well... i get it up to a gram a week with no such issue but difficult to say... some absolutely cannot eat on tren at all while others use it as an opportunity to eat whatever they want and just smash all day knowing tren melts the fat away... its just about finding what works with your body

I really feel blessed there with yhe insane appetite increase eq gives me. Makes it a perfect adition to any bulker. Mby not so cool while cutting.. but that's true, everybody's different

 

[wheytech]

hey bro... i know a lot of people who have issues with orals and in actuality, we pretty much all do but certain things get overlooked and then you realize when you stop taking them that they were the culprit all along... the key is to run either lower doses or lower periods of time... i see excellent results with winstrol at only 25 mg per day and don't get any sort of sides whatsoever... generally my sides with orals are related to lethargy or headaches etc. and it always seems to occur towards week 5 or so... perhaps try tbol at only 30 mg per day and see how you respond.. have a sick layout for your bulk

1-18 sustanon 250 mg per day
1-18 eq 800 mg week
7-18 tren e 500 mg week
1-20 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
7-18 dostinex .5 mg e3d
1-18 proviron 50 mg day
1-6 tbol 30 mg day
1-6 cycle assist
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
7-18 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
5-18 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
15-18 hcg 1000 ius week


pct 19-22

clomid 50/50/25/25

nolva 40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod

mk-2866 25 mg day

gw-501516 20 mg day

I pretty sure that's they problem, the dosage. I had problems with stomach acid when i was a kid, so i think with the larger doses of orals just gets to much.. ill be cutting doses in half next time and asses from there. Ive also done 25mg wnstrol with great results, so i dont evan know why i started at 50mg this time. Was a stupid mistake..

Now that's a cycle i could run! Mby throw a little deca in to the mix.. lol!

 

[DylanGemelli]

I pretty sure that's they problem, the dosage. I had problems with stomach acid when i was a kid, so i think with the larger doses of orals just gets to much.. ill be cutting doses in half next time and asses from there. Ive also done 25mg wnstrol with great results, so i dont evan know why i started at 50mg this time. Was a stupid mistake..

Now that's a cycle i could run! Mby throw a little deca in to the mix.. lol!

you could do that as well but its not really necessary.. probably overkill... i feel that this is plenty for you bro... you could finish off your cycle with winstrol too at 25 mg... that would be a very nice finish to a very strong cycle bro

 

[wheytech]

you could do that as well but its not really necessary.. probably overkill... i feel that this is plenty for you bro... you could finish off your cycle with winstrol too at 25 mg... that would be a very nice finish to a very strong cycle bro

Your probably right.. lol. Cant wait for winter for begin now..

 

[RickRock]

I pretty sure that's they problem, the dosage. I had problems with stomach acid when i was a kid, so i think with the larger doses of orals just gets to much.. ill be cutting doses in half next time and asses from there. Ive also done 25mg wnstrol with great results, so i dont evan know why i started at 50mg this time. Was a stupid mistake..

Now that's a cycle i could run! Mby throw a little deca in to the mix.. lol!

Orals do that with me in high doses too at times. There's nothing wrong with a lower dose, and 25mg Winstrol can be very effctive

 

[wheytech]

Orals do that with me in high doses too at times. There's nothing wrong with a lower dose, and 25mg Winstrol can be very effctive

Yeah, ill give the tbol ago at 40mg and spread it out evenly threw the day. Im not a big dude, so it should yield some nice gains !

 

[TX TERROR]

Also has a bit to do with the contant of what you are taking orally. Caps. Those are often filled with baking soda as the filler. Liquids use PEG or a grain alcohol and that will certainly contribute to acid reflux or GERD

 

[TX TERROR]

Then there are certain oral like drol and stuff that will just fuck youre stomach up regardless.

 

[RickRock]

Yeah, ill give the tbol ago at 40mg and spread it out evenly threw the day. Im not a big dude, so it should yield some nice gains !

That should work great. Tbol is on the mild side compared to other orals so that will also help considerably coupled with the lower dose

 

[RickRock]

Then there are certain oral like drol and stuff that will just fuck youre stomach up regardless.

Yes true, but obviously that is do to it being one of the most harsh orals you can take

 

[mastermolnar]

Im running a very similar cycle right now. I love the sustanon, eq, and tren storm together. Killer combo. I actually dropped my test dose from 250eod to 150eod and ill tell you i notice no differece with the addition of the tren storm. Im in like week 17 of 20 and feeling amazing

 

[DylanGemelli]

Im running a very similar cycle right now. I love the sustanon, eq, and tren storm together. Killer combo. I actually dropped my test dose from 250eod to 150eod and ill tell you i notice no differece with the addition of the tren storm. Im in like week 17 of 20 and feeling amazing

i love that... let the others truly shine but still get the benefit from test you need.. i wish more followed this way but i see it becoming more of a trend... i preached this for so long and so many gave me a hard fucking time... WHO'S LAUGHING NOW... JUST KIDDING... i don't care... im just glad others are seeing the rationale and the benefit

 

[mastermolnar]

L/T/H/TR where it at