Hey, guys I'm a new member on this forum. I've been watching the YouTube video and finally decided to make an account here as well. I'll just get right into it, I'm 27 been working out for 9yrs, 220lbs, 14 % body fat, 6 feet, I'm going to start competing after few years of thinking, no matters who I talk to everyone is on some kind of cycle, so I guess I'm jumping in as well, i have a good source for supplies, he's actually a big name team amassdr, and this will be my very first cycle of any sort. I got tren ace and test ace, sort esters is what he recommended, I also got Supps to aid against build up for estrogen, liver aid, kidney aid. My first and second pins were bad, I had fever, couldn't walk, and I did do research before I pinned myself, I was expecting it. Did a lot of research on how to properly pin, being steril and everything. Pins were good no infections, no redness on pin site. I've been pinning my quads. I would say so far cycle has been pretty terrible, I understand the concept of virgin muscles as well but am I doing anything wrong?!? Any help for be appreciated or what can I change so I do through the same sides every week. Thanks guys
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Hey buddy, welcome to AR. Why don't you layout your complete cycle with what dosages etc you are using. It sounds to me like you got steered in the wrong direction if they recommended Tren to you without you having a lot of experience. I don't think short esters was a good idea either because of how much PIP there is associated with it.
As for your gear and ancillaries it's hard to say what's good and what's not since this is all stuff nobody here is familiar with. We all have very good sources here that we know are 100% legit, that we can help you with.
I don't know if you are having a reaction to the gear, because of poor quality, or its your pinning technique or what. There are too many variables really to say. What gauge needle and length are you using?
Hey bro, I'm using performance pharmaceutical 100mg tren, test. Needle 25g x 1", pinning z style, 1cc each every other day
I have no idea what lab that is, but it sounds to me like you are having a reaction to the carrier oil at least or the gear is of poor quality. You really shouldn't be using Tren at all, so I would recommend dropping it completely. Are you using an antiprolactin with the Tren? If not that could be another issue as you could end up with gyno. I would honestly just drop it and make sure you get all the right knowledge you need, and do things correctly using the right cycle before you start again. What do you have for PCT?
I'm all ears my man, that was one of the reason why I came to this forum, looks like I came to the right place, do u have time to run by it or someplace good for research?!?
m_groove
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Well for starters the fevers could be cause of test flu, I usually get light fevers & body ach when I start test that will usually last a couple days. The pain for walking is probably from the pip on the gear especially test p wich is what I think your referring to not sure. How many mgs are you pinning .
And yes I'm running a antiprolactic
This week so far I haven't pinned cause I'm thinking something is wrong maybe the gear is not good, 1cc on each 3 x a week
m_groove
New member
If your getting pain that bad then just drop the gear let the person know where you foot it from, and for a first cycle I would suggest just start with test you will get some really good gains if you train hard and get your diet good.
I was thinking along the same lines after some research tren most likely needs to be dropped! What about rest, like the antiprolactic, liver support, kidney aid, do I need anything else?!? Dosage wise, 50ml 3x a week?!?
It just sounds like you don't have the knowledge to correctly run a cycle right now. You can't acquire all of this in a post or in a day brother. It doesn't work that way lol. What do you have for PCT? If you don't have that then you are not in a good place. You really need to stop this cycle brother before you hurt yourself. Take some time off and LEARN. This is a marathon and not a sprint. You are getting in way too much of a hurry, there no need for it and it's wreck less. This lifestyle and being reckless does not end well.
I agree with u 100%, where should I start?!?
m_groove
New member
Everyone is different but still take your liver supports and kidney aids, as far as antiprolactic it would depend on you but I would switch that out for Aromasin at 12.5mgs EOD. This will help keep your estrogen under control from the test. Wich test will you be pinning? And how many mgs
100mg test, twice a week 1/2 cc each time
m_groove
New member
I would say up the test to 1cc. If it's test e Wich is what I would recommend at 250mg I would say 1cc twice a week wich would give you 500mg a week that would be a good starting cycle. A short ester would be to much pinning for a beginner if you can switch over to a longer ester do that. You can still pin the short ester test as a kick start until the longer ester test would start to work so you would loose out on the test you have now.
This is the 3rd time I'm asking this, but what is your PCT? That is what you need to concern yourself with when you come off of cycle. Right now you should not be listening to the others telling you to increase dosage, etc when you shouldn't even be cycling right now. Let's get your PCT squared away, regroup and come up with a better plan for the future
bmyers818
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Rickrock I know your a hard ass but i know you've been looking out for us newbies, take heed to whatever Ricks telling you bro, you can't go into this shit hoping you won't get sides and don't think you can come off without PCT-do you want no natural testosterone production for the rest of your life? this shit happens all the time and thats why there's dudes like Rick and the rest of the adrenaline team to address any concerns and potential issues with our cyc's. These dudes have years damn near decades under there belts doing this shit, they don't wanna see us fuck ourselves up.
My bad bro I was away from my phone, I just started my cycle like 1 and half week ago and I stopped cause after just couple pins the sides were so bad I stopped, I don't want to be a nuisance but I didn't think I would need pct after a week and half!!
Ya bro, if it's only been a week and a half that is the right route to take. Just stop and acquire all the knowledge you need for the future. You should be fine without PCT. Look at doing a test only cycle next or maybe a sarms stack. We can get you on track here. You are in the right place for help my friend and I will be here to guide you with anything you need
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