New guy asking for advice on cycle

[BroskiMuffin]

Hey guys, I'm Broski. I'm new here and I just wanted to see if I could ask you all for some advice on a cycle I'm considering. I'm a thin guy, about 6' and 165-170 lbs. I'm in my early 20s. Been lifting for a while but no real experience with a prohormone or anything. Today I went to a supplement store and to my surprise they had a prohormone "mass cycle" for sale. So, I looked at the supp facts and it checked out, so I bought it. Now I'm just curious if I understood it right, whether you're supposed to take one at a time or both together, and I'm assuming I need a pct to go with this, but I'll ask just in case. The "cycle" came with two bottles by reaction nutrition although it's not listed on their website. 3D Mass and T Cycle.

3D Mass has 100mg 1-Androstene-3b-o, 17-one
4 androstene-3b-ol, 17-one
Androst-3,5-dien-7, 17-dione

T Cycle has 130mg 1-Androstene-3b-ol,17-one
Methyl-EAA
19nor-DHEA
Laxosterone

Both have 30 capsules, serving size is 2 capsules.
If I understand this correctly, I would take 3D Mass for 15 days and then switch to T Cycle for the remaining 15 days. If the label is true, 100 and 130mg of each of those should be more than enough, especially for a beginner cycle. I still am under the impression that I would need a PCT after this, which I still need to buy. Am I correct in all of this? Are these solid, shitty or bullshit phs? Do I need a cycle support of some kind with this or will the PCT be enough? Thank you for your time and I appreciate any answers and opinions. Thanks, -Broski

 

[vinni]

Welcome to AR! I wish you would have posted before you bought a PH !
Can you take it back? Much better options here.

 

[BroskiMuffin]

Thank you! And yes, it was certainly an impulse buy and I know it's not perfect. I am just curious if it will work or if it's even worth the time, also if I will need a PCT (I'm assuming yes) Once I get through this one I will certainly be looking into the better options here.

 

[FL1025]

Honestly man I would take that back and either get a refund or exchange it for some protein powder. There are no prohormones out right now of any real value to be honest, they were all banned. I would then look into Sarms I'd look at Pure Essence they actually have tailor made cycles on the site. What are your goals for this cycle?

 

[vinni]

I agree with FL. They are either junk or they work but they are terrible for you.
Do you need PCT? I don't know. But lots of great sources here and tons of options to choose from.

 

[FL1025]

I agree with FL. They are either junk or they work but they are terrible for you.
Do you need PCT? I don't know. But lots of great sources here and tons of options to choose from.

Exactly and if be willing to bet an LGD only cycle would rival anything you would find on the market right now

 

[vinni]

We not trying to bust your ass or run you off. You have found the best place on the planet to learn and talk with others who love to train hard and make gains. But everyone here is gonna tell you like it is. And I've heard nothing good about PHs. Just hate to see you waste $ or put toxic shit in you. So if you do the PH just hit it quick and get off. Get a liver aid and drink a ton of water !!! Cool ?

 

[BroskiMuffin]

That's about what I expected honestly. It's not perfect, but if I ended up doing it, it would be a one and done followed by a pct. However, I probably will take your advice and return it and try to exchange for something else. They did sell a SARM stack, and someone mentioned SARMs here, but I am unfamiliar with them because they are so new and have assumed them to be ineffective and a waste of money like most supplements. I'd be curious to hear from some of you with experience cycling as to whether you thought SARMs would be a solid replacement for a ph. My goal with taking the ph is simply to just put on about 10, maybe 15 pounds of muscle if I'm lucky.

 

[FL1025]

We not trying to bust your ass or run you off. You have found the best place on the planet to learn and talk with others who love to train hard and make gains. But everyone here is gonna tell you like it is. And I've heard nothing good about PHs. Just hate to see you waste $ or put toxic shit in you. So if you do the PH just hit it quick and get off. Get a liver aid and drink a ton of water !!! Cool ?

Yea that's true I just reread my post and I may have come off wrong. If you want to run that, that product by all means go ahead. I actually like prohormones if you look at some of my previous comments my favorites are Superdrol, epistane and halodrol 50. Those actually worked and worked well. Most of the stuff that these supplement companies sell now days don't do anything. To the OP if you do take that product id still take a liver support and I'd run a pct just in case because you never know what's being put in the product.

 

[vinni]

I'm only about 2 weeks into a sarms cycle, so I'm not gonna give you a review yet. But lots of guys love them. And for you. Mid twenties! Bro hard training and lots of quality calories you should be able to grow a lot!

 

[RickRock]

That's about what I expected honestly. It's not perfect, but if I ended up doing it, it would be a one and done followed by a pct. However, I probably will take your advice and return it and try to exchange for something else. They did sell a SARM stack, and someone mentioned SARMs here, but I am unfamiliar with them because they are so new and have assumed them to be ineffective and a waste of money like most supplements. I'd be curious to hear from some of you with experience cycling as to whether you thought SARMs would be a solid replacement for a ph. My goal with taking the ph is simply to just put on about 10, maybe 15 pounds of muscle if I'm lucky.

You should absolutely return that product. It's hard saying what's actually in it, as anything effective as far as pro hormones go was banned some time ago. Sarms are not supplements, but they are powerful anabolics that give steroid like results. When stacked correctly you can get some serious size and strength from them. Of course the proper diet and training come into play here as well.

There are a lot of subpar sources for sarms out there. What you want are liquid suspension sarms for best bioavailability and you want that from a quality legit source. We have that here with pure essence sarms. Here is the stack I'd recommend for you, with the link to it on their site


http://pureessenceresearch.com/product/ultra-recomp-stack-12-weeks-2/

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

PCT

clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[hurricane]

Hey guys, I'm Broski. I'm new here and I just wanted to see if I could ask you all for some advice on a cycle I'm considering. I'm a thin guy, about 6' and 165-170 lbs. I'm in my early 20s. Been lifting for a while but no real experience with a prohormone or anything. Today I went to a supplement store and to my surprise they had a prohormone "mass cycle" for sale. So, I looked at the supp facts and it checked out, so I bought it. Now I'm just curious if I understood it right, whether you're supposed to take one at a time or both together, and I'm assuming I need a pct to go with this, but I'll ask just in case. The "cycle" came with two bottles by reaction nutrition although it's not listed on their website. 3D Mass and T Cycle.

3D Mass has 100mg 1-Androstene-3b-o, 17-one
4 androstene-3b-ol, 17-one
Androst-3,5-dien-7, 17-dione

T Cycle has 130mg 1-Androstene-3b-ol,17-one
Methyl-EAA
19nor-DHEA
Laxosterone

Both have 30 capsules, serving size is 2 capsules.
If I understand this correctly, I would take 3D Mass for 15 days and then switch to T Cycle for the remaining 15 days. If the label is true, 100 and 130mg of each of those should be more than enough, especially for a beginner cycle. I still am under the impression that I would need a PCT after this, which I still need to buy. Am I correct in all of this? Are these solid, shitty or bullshit phs? Do I need a cycle support of some kind with this or will the PCT be enough? Thank you for your time and I appreciate any answers and opinions. Thanks, -Broski

if you want to start off with something lighter and no injections. Bring that back and we can hook you up with a nice sarms cycle bro

 

[rockmfhudd]

i agree with all of the above. you dont know wht kind of shit they put in those pills, i mean atleast when you order from a source here you know wtf you are getting in it. and i agree on the sarms. i was all ready for the gear then hit the sarms first on these guys advice and am so glad i did. i got the same gains and losses i expected with gear and nowhere near side effects or problems a mini pct is all i needed

 

[Koko23]

It's a knock off all pro hormones have been banned from Obama so it's just bull shit n shity fillers

 

[mastermolnar]

Id also have to agree with everyones advice. If you cant get a cash refund, get some bcaa and some good vitamins. Anything you can buy over the counter as far as mass stacks or prohormones will be a major waste of time and money. Also, at 6' 170 you have a lot of room for natural growth before thinking of jumping on anything, especially in your early 20s. Try tweaking your diet a bit. With some adjustments to diet and training I bet you can make some great gains naturally

 

[DylanGemelli]

It's a knock off all pro hormones have been banned from Obama so it's just bull shit n shity fillers

exactly... very good point

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hey guys, I'm Broski. I'm new here and I just wanted to see if I could ask you all for some advice on a cycle I'm considering. I'm a thin guy, about 6' and 165-170 lbs. I'm in my early 20s. Been lifting for a while but no real experience with a prohormone or anything. Today I went to a supplement store and to my surprise they had a prohormone "mass cycle" for sale. So, I looked at the supp facts and it checked out, so I bought it. Now I'm just curious if I understood it right, whether you're supposed to take one at a time or both together, and I'm assuming I need a pct to go with this, but I'll ask just in case. The "cycle" came with two bottles by reaction nutrition although it's not listed on their website. 3D Mass and T Cycle.

3D Mass has 100mg 1-Androstene-3b-o, 17-one
4 androstene-3b-ol, 17-one
Androst-3,5-dien-7, 17-dione

T Cycle has 130mg 1-Androstene-3b-ol,17-one
Methyl-EAA
19nor-DHEA
Laxosterone

Both have 30 capsules, serving size is 2 capsules.
If I understand this correctly, I would take 3D Mass for 15 days and then switch to T Cycle for the remaining 15 days. If the label is true, 100 and 130mg of each of those should be more than enough, especially for a beginner cycle. I still am under the impression that I would need a PCT after this, which I still need to buy. Am I correct in all of this? Are these solid, shitty or bullshit phs? Do I need a cycle support of some kind with this or will the PCT be enough? Thank you for your time and I appreciate any answers and opinions. Thanks, -Broski

hey bro... my best advice is to definitely try to return this product... this is not anything you want to be using and not only are you probably going to ingest something that is not even what it says, but you are going to put unnecessary strain on your body at a very young age... sarms are absolutely the bet way to introduce your body to a foreign substance... prohormones are definitely not what you want to be using... check out my youtube channel to see all the sarms info you want... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEdmdTa8bTs39ujxQgFa-kw

let me know your goals and i will set you up with a bad ass sarms stack

 

[BroskiMuffin]

Alright, I'll attempt to take them back tomorrow. So now looking more into SARMs, I'm completely new to the whole thing. What am I looking for and what do I want with them? There is a supplement store here that sells SARMs. Are they bs or would they be a solid option? Thank you all for your advice. I really appreciate it.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Alright, I'll attempt to take them back tomorrow. So now looking more into SARMs, I'm completely new to the whole thing. What am I looking for and what do I want with them? There is a supplement store here that sells SARMs. Are they bs or would they be a solid option? Thank you all for your advice. I really appreciate it.

Extreme bs... You have the best you can find right in front of you at www.pureessenceresearch.com Supplement stores CANNOT sell sarms, only research companies.can... Tell me your exact goal and ill give you the very best layout and all the video links to watch

 

[RickRock]

Alright, I'll attempt to take them back tomorrow. So now looking more into SARMs, I'm completely new to the whole thing. What am I looking for and what do I want with them? There is a supplement store here that sells SARMs. Are they bs or would they be a solid option? Thank you all for your advice. I really appreciate it.

You don't want anything labeled as sarms from a supplement store bro. You want them in liquid suspension form in the highest quality from www.pureessenceresearch.com