need advice please

[alexhoff92]

Hey!
I just started reading through the forum and wanted to ask for your advice.
I just turned 24 last week. I currently weigh between 174-177 im 6'2", about 8 years ago i was my heaviest of 310 lbs. I go to the the gym 5 days a week for the last 2 years, I tried to "bulk" up but just eneded up eating to much and not counting my macros. Eaerlier this year I was 225lbs and wanted to cut down and try it again. I ended up getting down to 170 about a month and a half ago. I am about 3/4 of the way done with my first sarms cycle, I did the quad elite capsules. which now i am seeing that the capsules are not the best option
Here is a picture of the bottle.



http://phwsupplements.com/elite-quad-stack-by-focused-nutrition-eu/


so here is where i need help.

do you have a better reccomendation, or is this a decent product?
thank you again for your help.

Also i am not sure if it really matters, but I am going in for a tummy tuck november 1st, so i want to try and put on as much size as possible because I am going to be out of the gym for a month.

 

[RickRock]

Hey!
I just started reading through the forum and wanted to ask for your advice.
I just turned 24 last week. I currently weigh between 174-177 im 6'2", about 8 years ago i was my heaviest of 310 lbs. I go to the the gym 5 days a week for the last 2 years, I tried to "bulk" up but just eneded up eating to much and not counting my macros. Eaerlier this year I was 225lbs and wanted to cut down and try it again. I ended up getting down to 170 about a month and a half ago. I am about 3/4 of the way done with my first sarms cycle, I did the quad elite capsules. which now i am seeing that the capsules are not the best option
Here is a picture of the bottle.

View attachment 2462

http://phwsupplements.com/elite-quad-stack-by-focused-nutrition-eu/


so here is where i need help.

do you have a better reccomendation, or is this a decent product?
thank you again for your help.

Also i am not sure if it really matters, but I am going in for a tummy tuck november 1st, so i want to try and put on as much size as possible because I am going to be out of the gym for a month.

I wouldn't reco,mend using that product at all bro. Any capsule sarms are a bad idea, especially the ones like that that supposedly have multiple sarms in them.....that is pretty sketchy. That's more than likely a prohormone or something

My best recommendation to you would be to get a sarms stack to meet your goals from www.sarmsx.com

I think what's best for you is the enhanced super stack. Here is the complete protocol

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/enhanced-super-stack-12-weeks

1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)

PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day

 

[alexhoff92]

:X is there a slighly less expesnive one that would be good lol.

 

[SpikedEggnog]

It's expensive because it's quality bro. You're thinking it's expensive compared to capsule products because capsule products are cheap crap with fillers or prohormones in it. You can use one saris like lgd or rad by itself but you will get better results stacking them of course.

 

[EZ_E]

Hey!
I just started reading through the forum and wanted to ask for your advice.
I just turned 24 last week. I currently weigh between 174-177 im 6'2", about 8 years ago i was my heaviest of 310 lbs. I go to the the gym 5 days a week for the last 2 years, I tried to "bulk" up but just eneded up eating to much and not counting my macros. Eaerlier this year I was 225lbs and wanted to cut down and try it again. I ended up getting down to 170 about a month and a half ago. I am about 3/4 of the way done with my first sarms cycle, I did the quad elite capsules. which now i am seeing that the capsules are not the best option
Here is a picture of the bottle.

View attachment 2462

http://phwsupplements.com/elite-quad-stack-by-focused-nutrition-eu/


so here is where i need help.

do you have a better reccomendation, or is this a decent product?
thank you again for your help.

Also i am not sure if it really matters, but I am going in for a tummy tuck november 1st, so i want to try and put on as much size as possible because I am going to be out of the gym for a month.

Well done with your progress...going from over 300 pounds to under 200 is outstanding.

You don't want to "put on as much size as possible".....keep it consistent, have your surgery. Keep on a clean nutrition protocol. The gym will be there when you are ready to go back.

 

[44YOGearHead]

Bro, congrats on the weight loss, but PHW sells shit products now. When prohormones were still available I used to get stuff from them years ago, that and pre-workout. Capsulated SARMs are pure bs bro, nothing but fillers and prohormones. Yes SARMs can be capsulated, but if they are real think about the digestive process. You're eating them up in your stomach before they can be of use. SARMSX is the only way to go bro. If the cost deters you then you my friend are in the wrong part of the gym. You gotta pay to play if you want real stuff, but understand that what you are paying for is the real deal. Raws cost and the prices go up and down point blank so you can expect prices to fluctuate.

 

[eman]

I love how everyone here bashes capsulated sarms lol. I do agree that sarms being sold as supplements is shady to begin with and not very trust worthy... that being said, there are a few research sites that sell capsule sarms and they are no different than liquid in terms of quality. I'd say there's 90% chance focused nutrition is laced with prohormones bro so if u do take it treat it as a real cycle.

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[DylanGemelli]

I love how everyone here bashes capsulated sarms lol. I do agree that sarms being sold as supplements is shady to begin with and not very trust worthy... that being said, there are a few research sites that sell capsule sarms and they are no different than liquid in terms of quality. I'd say there's 90% chance focused nutrition is laced with prohormones bro so if u do take it treat it as a real cycle.

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thats just it... its more so the fact that these scum bags fill the capsules with pro hormones and who knows what else... thats the issue... the capsule sarms, if they were actually sarms could be effective to a point, yes, but with all the unheard of side effects, results etc... its not a big mystery as to what these assholes do and its just shameful to say the least... how one can sleep at night doing these kinds of things is beyond me...

 

[DylanGemelli]

:X is there a slighly less expesnive one that would be good lol.

you get what you pay for... if you want the best, you tend to pay for the best... if you want to get things that are shady, less quality etc. then you get something far cheaper... when it comes to a cycle and what your putting into your body, you give it the best and something you can trust... thats sarms x... now i can help with a more cost effective cycle... the recommend cycle is going to be the best fit for your goals but there are other options as well... the ultra recomp stack would be a great option for you as well... here are the links for everything you need followed by the layout... https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=150&search=recomp and https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini

1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[eman]

thats just it... its more so the fact that these scum bags fill the capsules with pro hormones and who knows what else... thats the issue... the capsule sarms, if they were actually sarms could be effective to a point, yes, but with all the unheard of side effects, results etc... its not a big mystery as to what these assholes do and its just shameful to say the least... how one can sleep at night doing these kinds of things is beyond me...

Just curious man do you honestly believe liquid is superior to capsules if you are getting the same raw ingredient? Because that would be like saying my creatine powder suspended in alcohol is more effective... lol. I understand that you don't like sarms being sold as capsules since it's illegal to begin with and you like to promote sarmsx which is obviously great quality... but cmon man you can't be telling people that liquid is better, I joined this forum because it is about transperancy... and when it comes down to it, liquid will yield the exact same results as capsules if the raw ingredient is a real quality sarm.

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[jp1957]

not quite, as the liquid suspension promotes a high bioavailability and absorbtion rate, than the raws in a capsule. Or thats the theory anyways.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Just curious man do you honestly believe liquid is superior to capsules if you are getting the same raw ingredient? Because that would be like saying my creatine powder suspended in alcohol is more effective... lol. I understand that you don't like sarms being sold as capsules since it's illegal to begin with and you like to promote sarmsx which is obviously great quality... but cmon man you can't be telling people that liquid is better, I joined this forum because it is about transperancy... and when it comes down to it, liquid will yield the exact same results as capsules if the raw ingredient is a real quality sarm.

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you can say or do whatever you feel bro and if you think there is some underlying issue here with me, thats your opinion... i have been working with actual chemists in china, and yes, thats real, not enhanced athlete fake bull shit, but thats also something i dont talk about or let everyone know because frankly, its noones fucking business but since you seem to think there is some other reasoning here, theres the facts and from them from high end chemists and others have educated me THOROUGHLY and this is coming straight from them, so if you would like to take it up with them, im all good with that... if you honestly think i would have another reason behind this, then you dont know a thing about me... i would LOVE to have everything in a capsule, are you kidding me? of course that would be the best way and i never said it was not effective at all... its clearly far easier to produce them in capsule and less expensive... so its clearly nothing economical... sarmsx is not going to put out anything that could not be the same quality even if its slight or by a mile... as i said, it was all being perfected and when it is done, i am certain sarmsx or some of the associates they have will be providing them in capsule form... you can do it however you like... im not sitting here bashing sarms in a capsule, im saying that many are prohormones, which is a CLEAR fact and im also relaying what I have been taught by real professionals, not some jerk off who is just selling shit on a site... so you can do with that what you like and i dont mind whatsoever you asking etc. but challenging me as if i have some agenda, sorry bro, im not going to take that kind of talk because not only is it wrong but its a flat ass slap in the face

 

[eman]

you can say or do whatever you feel bro and if you think there is some underlying issue here with me, thats your opinion... i have been working with actual chemists in china, and yes, thats real, not enhanced athlete fake bull shit, but thats also something i dont talk about or let everyone know because frankly, its noones fucking business but since you seem to think there is some other reasoning here, theres the facts and from them from high end chemists and others have educated me THOROUGHLY and this is coming straight from them, so if you would like to take it up with them, im all good with that... if you honestly think i would have another reason behind this, then you dont know a thing about me... i would LOVE to have everything in a capsule, are you kidding me? of course that would be the best way and i never said it was not effective at all... its clearly far easier to produce them in capsule and less expensive... so its clearly nothing economical... sarmsx is not going to put out anything that could not be the same quality even if its slight or by a mile... as i said, it was all being perfected and when it is done, i am certain sarmsx or some of the associates they have will be providing them in capsule form... you can do it however you like... im not sitting here bashing sarms in a capsule, im saying that many are prohormones, which is a CLEAR fact and im also relaying what I have been taught by real professionals, not some jerk off who is just selling shit on a site... so you can do with that what you like and i dont mind whatsoever you asking etc. but challenging me as if i have some agenda, sorry bro, im not going to take that kind of talk because not only is it wrong but its a flat ass slap in the face

I don't think there's an issue with you and I really don't care whether you have an agenda bro that's not what I'm trying to get at here...I actually agree with most of your information and your videos are spot on. However I don't agree with this statement that sarms work better in liquid as you have provided no scientific data or proof to convince me otherwise. That's cool that you've talked to chemists about this subject... so sure maybe YOU have evidence of this possibly being true, but look at it from my perspective for just one second here... I have no evidence aside from the words coming from your mouth that sarms are better in liquid. It's nothing personal at all bro... but I'm just a guy who likes to see the proof for himself and i will gladly challenge anyone who makes a statement that makes no sense to me and has no analytical data to back it up...

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[PHURIOUS]

Just curious man do you honestly believe liquid is superior to capsules if you are getting the same raw ingredient? Because that would be like saying my creatine powder suspended in alcohol is more effective... lol. I understand that you don't like sarms being sold as capsules since it's illegal to begin with and you like to promote sarmsx which is obviously great quality... but cmon man you can't be telling people that liquid is better, I joined this forum because it is about transperancy... and when it comes down to it, liquid will yield the exact same results as capsules if the raw ingredient is a real quality sarm.

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Two problems w cap sarms. One the filler used could be anything also the raws can be anything and not sarms.

Two. The stomach acids kills 40-50% of the raws while digesting. However in liquid the body cant digest it as its liquid and is immediately absorbed by the arteries in your stomach and intestines very quickly. Also as a liquid much is absorbed thru the mouth also.




PHURIOUS

 

[SpikedEggnog]

A lot of people here have been scammed with capsules or some even had problems like gyno from using supposed sarms, which real sarms don't aromatise. You don't seem to know much about sarms if you re asking the difference between capsule and liquid suspension. Also I'm not sure when you joined the forums here. But myself and a lot of others have been here since the beginning adrenaline rush before the first move. So to come at dylan with that attitude is kind of disrespectful bro. Whether it was accusing or not it came across that way. If you want research then go find it. You don't seem to have a problem accepting capsule sarms yet you don't have any evidence for those either.

 

[eman]

A lot of people here have been scammed with capsules or some even had problems like gyno from using supposed sarms, which real sarms don't aromatise. You don't seem to know much about sarms if you re asking the difference between capsule and liquid suspension. Also I'm not sure when you joined the forums here. But myself and a lot of others have been here since the beginning adrenaline rush before the first move. So to come at dylan with that attitude is kind of disrespectful bro. Whether it was accusing or not it came across that way. If you want research then go find it. You don't seem to have a problem accepting capsule sarms yet you don't have any evidence for those either.

I meant nothing personal towards dylan, I've just seen "liquids are better absorbed than capsules" on this forum way too many times and I can't stand the misinformation being preached. I've taken liquid sarms, I've taken capsule sarms(legit) and I can tell you honestly i noticed no difference in terms of effects and results.

I understand that dylan has good intentions in steering people clear of capsules as many are fake, but if you have a legit source that sells capsules and liquid, I sure as hell am going for the capsules. Even if liquids actually do absorb better(since i have no proof that they dont) I can guarentee you its not nearly enough to illicit a noticable difference in terms of results. Just like liquid prohormones vs capsules. Exact same idea here.

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[Jdmz25]

It's not even legal to sell capsulized sarms

 

[SpikedEggnog]

Bro you noticing no discernable difference doesn't prove anything. You are telling me you have no proof of liquid absorbing better yet you can guarantee it doesn't make a difference. How do you know without proof? By your standards you are the same except you are on the other side of the fence.