My SARMs plan...

[vewq]

Hi!

I haven’t tried any sarms yet (starting next week) so I’d love to get your thoughts on my plan for the next 6 month…

My primary goal/focus is strength. I do a lot of bodyweight stuff, so it’s important for me to have very low levels of bodyfat & not too much size (having high relative strength..).
However, I suffered an injury (full ACL tear) a couple months back, so I’m gonna take the opportunity to build some size since I can’t perform much of what I’d usually do (so my weight isn’t a worry this period).
I’m 21, 6ft tall, currently 185-190lbs at about 12% bodyfat (injury made me fat..).
When my knee is getting back to normal, I’ll cut down (hopefully to about 180-185lbs at 7-8% bodyfat by then) and continue to kick ass.

So, I came up with these 3 stacks to meet all those goals:
Stack 1 - Strength & Size (October -> New Years):
12 weeks LGD. 10mg/day.
8 weeks S4 (beginning at 4 weeks of LGD). 50mg/day in split dosages.

Stack 2 - Mini-PCT (January):
4 weeks Clomid. 50/25/25/25mg. (Is this ED?)
4 weeks MK-2866. 25mg/day.
4 weeks GW. 20mg/day.

Stack 3 - Strength & Cutting (February -> March):
8 weeks GW. 20mg/day.
8 weeks S4. 50mg/day in split dosages.

A couple questions:

- What do you think of this plan?
- As I mentioned, I’m rehabbing an injured knee, so the healing benefits of MK-2866 are certainly interesting.. Would adding it to both stack 1 & 2 and removing it from the Mini-PCT be a good idea for that purpose?
- Do I need any time off before starting stack 3? If so, how long?
- Any additional tips/ideas I could consider?

Thanks in advance!

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hi!

I haven’t tried any sarms yet (starting next week) so I’d love to get your thoughts on my plan for the next 6 month…

My primary goal/focus is strength. I do a lot of bodyweight stuff, so it’s important for me to have very low levels of bodyfat & not too much size (having high relative strength..).
However, I suffered an injury (full ACL tear) a couple months back, so I’m gonna take the opportunity to build some size since I can’t perform much of what I’d usually do (so my weight isn’t a worry this period).
I’m 21, 6ft tall, currently 185-190lbs at about 12% bodyfat (injury made me fat..).
When my knee is getting back to normal, I’ll cut down (hopefully to about 180-185lbs at 7-8% bodyfat by then) and continue to kick ass.

So, I came up with these 3 stacks to meet all those goals:
Stack 1 - Strength & Size (October -> New Years):
12 weeks LGD. 10mg/day.
8 weeks S4 (beginning at 4 weeks of LGD). 50mg/day in split dosages.

Stack 2 - Mini-PCT (January):
4 weeks Clomid. 50/25/25/25mg. (Is this ED?)
4 weeks MK-2866. 25mg/day.
4 weeks GW. 20mg/day.

Stack 3 - Strength & Cutting (February -> March):
8 weeks GW. 20mg/day.
8 weeks S4. 50mg/day in split dosages.

A couple questions:

- What do you think of this plan?
- As I mentioned, I’m rehabbing an injured knee, so the healing benefits of MK-2866 are certainly interesting.. Would adding it to both stack 1 & 2 and removing it from the Mini-PCT be a good idea for that purpose?
- Do I need any time off before starting stack 3? If so, how long?
- Any additional tips/ideas I could consider?

Thanks in advance!

these all needs fixed bro, but thats okay, thats what you are here for... its all set up completely wrong though... 8 week stacks are a waste as you are leaving 1/3 of the gains on the table... you also need to take 2-3 weeks off after you complete your mini pct and then you can start another stack... my recommendation is to start with the sarms super stack... you are getting major healing from mk2866 and lgd-4033, as well as the lean muscle and strength from s4 followed up with the ultimate performance enhancement from gw as well as keeping the gains extremely clean.. here are the links for everything followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=144&search=super+

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini



1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day



after this stack is complete, take 2-3 weeks off and then go into your cutting stack which is the six pack stack..

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=142&search=six+pack+

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini



1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[vewq]

Thanks a lot Dylan!

I will certainly remove the tampon and run the full 12 weeks of everything!

A few questions:
- Is it worth running MK-2866 at the full 25mg/day even with the main purpose being healing?
- The GW in the first stack is to avoid fat gain & boost performance, correct?
- I'm getting close to more advanced bodyweight skills (One-Arm Chin, levers, HSPUs etc) so the pressure on my joints (mostly elbows & wrists) are pretty big. Is that something MK & LGD will help with as-well?

By the way, I was just gonna post another thread about combating bloating... Then I saw your new video on YouTube! Awesome stuff!!

Cheers!

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks a lot Dylan!

I will certainly remove the tampon and run the full 12 weeks of everything!

A few questions:
- Is it worth running MK-2866 at the full 25mg/day even with the main purpose being healing?
- The GW in the first stack is to avoid fat gain & boost performance, correct?
- I'm getting close to more advanced bodyweight skills (One-Arm Chin, levers, HSPUs etc) so the pressure on my joints (mostly elbows & wrists) are pretty big. Is that something MK & LGD will help with as-well?

By the way, I was just gonna post another thread about combating bloating... Then I saw your new video on YouTube! Awesome stuff!!

Cheers!

LOLLL you are awesome bro... i love the tampon comment.. see, right here is an example of someone i would love to be helping and coaching daily... the way you took that and the response you gave is flat out awesome... i already like you a lot..

lets get to your questions...

1. yes, absolutely... you definitely want to keep it at 25 mg for max benefits, which not only includes healing but every other facet 2866 addresses...

2. yes, all of the above... gw is perfect in any scenario... clearly its more cutting based however the way it enhances performance is extremely ideal when bulking as i pointed out earlier, to address recovery time, output etc.. nothing can increase overall performance like gw

3. oh absolutely... these will most definitely address that problem... mk677 is extremely beneficial as well and in terms of healing, its right behind 2866 as the strongest for healing and the beauty of 677 is you can cycle it for a year without cycling off.. you could add it to everything you are doing and it would fit perfectly...


Im really glad my video helped brother... anytime you have questions, let me know!

 

[vewq]

LOLLL you are awesome bro... i love the tampon comment.. see, right here is an example of someone i would love to be helping and coaching daily... the way you took that and the response you gave is flat out awesome... i already like you a lot..

lets get to your questions...

1. yes, absolutely... you definitely want to keep it at 25 mg for max benefits, which not only includes healing but every other facet 2866 addresses...

2. yes, all of the above... gw is perfect in any scenario... clearly its more cutting based however the way it enhances performance is extremely ideal when bulking as i pointed out earlier, to address recovery time, output etc.. nothing can increase overall performance like gw

3. oh absolutely... these will most definitely address that problem... mk677 is extremely beneficial as well and in terms of healing, its right behind 2866 as the strongest for healing and the beauty of 677 is you can cycle it for a year without cycling off.. you could add it to everything you are doing and it would fit perfectly...


Im really glad my video helped brother... anytime you have questions, let me know!

Haha cheers! And you're someone I'd love to learn from daily, which I have been the last few weeks! And nightly... lmao!

Here's what I'm going for the first stack:
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid

Mini pct 13-16

clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day


I'm gonna look into MK677 more as-well, along with peptides like BCP157 & TB500.. I've heard a lot good about those!

How would you recommend I structure my diet running the above cycle? How much of a surplus would be ideal?

 

[jp1957]

Most people go 250c surplus, no more than 500. I used 500 for my last cycle, and put on too much fat.

Also, you need to be on point with your macros.

Dylan gave you the killer stack right there, only additional would be rad140 to kick it to yet another level.

 

[vewq]

Most people go 250c surplus, no more than 500. I used 500 for my last cycle, and put on too much fat.

Also, you need to be on point with your macros.

Dylan gave you the killer stack right there, only additional would be rad140 to kick it to yet another level.

That's a really small surplus! Is that because the SARMs help so much with building mass it's just not necessary to go any higher?

It seems amazing! Excited to get started!

 

[jp1957]

probably at your age and metabolism, you can get away with 500. Not me though.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Haha cheers! And you're someone I'd love to learn from daily, which I have been the last few weeks! And nightly... lmao!

Here's what I'm going for the first stack:
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid

Mini pct 13-16

clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day


I'm gonna look into MK677 more as-well, along with peptides like BCP157 & TB500.. I've heard a lot good about those!

How would you recommend I structure my diet running the above cycle? How much of a surplus would be ideal?

lol im happy to help and really happy to hear you are learning a lot from me.. thats what i intend to provide every day brother...

okay, keep in mind that JP is 30 years older than you so his metabolism is going to be a lot slower than yours... your surplus is completely dependent on how much you are wanting to add... what are you going for?

also, 677 is going to be FAR and AWAY the best option to add.. im a big fan of tb as well but good luck finding any quality on that one... its going to be nearly impossible..

i would highly recommend adding 677 here... that would be the healing super stack... here is the link...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=128&search=healing

 

[RickRock]

probably at your age and metabolism, you can get away with 500. Not me though.

Yes, everyone is different. For him, I do think 500 over would be a good target, which can always be adjusted from there

 

[DylanGemelli]

how much size are you wanting to obtain?

 

[vewq]

Thanks guys! Gonna consider 677 for sure! Especially after surgery!

I'm not looking to add that much size. I want to stay fairly light (which is heavyweight in bodyweight circles haha..) for the bodyweight feats and relative strength goals I have. Another 10lbs of pure muscle would be the limit..
However, as I can't train legs at all because of the knee it'll be all upper-body.. I could certainly get away with a 500kcal surplus, but maybe it'd be more beneficial for me to go a bit lower in calories since I'm not looking to add that much?

 

[RickRock]

Thanks guys! Gonna consider 677 for sure! Especially after surgery!

I'm not looking to add that much size. I want to stay fairly light (which is heavyweight in bodyweight circles haha..) for the bodyweight feats and relative strength goals I have. Another 10lbs of pure muscle would be the limit..
However, as I can't train legs at all because of the knee it'll be all upper-body.. I could certainly get away with a 500kcal surplus, but maybe it'd be more beneficial for me to go a bit lower in calories since I'm not looking to add that much?

500 over maintenance really isn't too much in my opinion. You can start lower if you choose to but I'd stick there personally. I think that is a good figure to go for especially for the gains you want to make.

 

[vewq]

500 over maintenance really isn't too much in my opinion. You can start lower if you choose to but I'd stick there personally. I think that is a good figure to go for especially for the gains you want to make.

Yeah, I think so too! Will take some tinkering anyway since I don't quite know my TDEE when injured/less active..

I'll figure it out! Cheers!

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks guys! Gonna consider 677 for sure! Especially after surgery!

I'm not looking to add that much size. I want to stay fairly light (which is heavyweight in bodyweight circles haha..) for the bodyweight feats and relative strength goals I have. Another 10lbs of pure muscle would be the limit..
However, as I can't train legs at all because of the knee it'll be all upper-body.. I could certainly get away with a 500kcal surplus, but maybe it'd be more beneficial for me to go a bit lower in calories since I'm not looking to add that much?

i would start with 250-350 and then assess from there... you can always add to it but its never good to start too high... just like anything else, ease into it and do some trial and error...

 

[vewq]

i would start with 250-350 and then assess from there... you can always add to it but its never good to start too high... just like anything else, ease into it and do some trial and error...

True that.. I'll start tracking weight/bodyfat/macros again so I can adjust optimally!

Btw, would you say mk2866 & mk677 is even better than TB500 & BCP157 for healing ligaments, sore joints etc?

 

[DylanGemelli]

True that.. I'll start tracking weight/bodyfat/macros again so I can adjust optimally!

Btw, would you say mk2866 & mk677 is even better than TB500 & BCP157 for healing ligaments, sore joints etc?

without a doubt they are better

 

[vewq]

without a doubt they are better

Damn that's awesome! They must be really underestimated for healing purposes then? Now I'm even more excited!!

 

[DylanGemelli]

Damn that's awesome! They must be really underestimated for healing purposes then? Now I'm even more excited!!

anyone that has used them knows how powerful they are... you will see soon!

 

[vewq]

I will! Cheers! I'll throw up a log once I get going!