More Precisions for a Perfect PCT

[jlaix0]

Hi Dylan, I really understand that PCT is the most important part of a cycle for a lot of reasons you explained, and I would like to have please some precisions on it for some points, thank you very much:

1 - In your PCT video, you recommend for week 2 to take 40mg of Novaldex, however in all PCT protocols you wrote (not the small pct for a sarm cycle, but for an AAS cycle) you always recommend to take 20mg of Novaldex:

"clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day"


so which protocol is the best for week 2, 40mg or 20mg of Novaldex ?


2 - Since SR-9009 is non hormonal, has SO MUCH benefits and is incredible, why don't you recommend always to take it in PCT ? Is it because you tell people the less expensive method ? Taking SR-9009 during will result in a better recovery, don't you think so ?


3 - It has been proved that 240mg Zinc Sulfate a day increase free testosterone by 40%:
http://www.ergo-log.com/zinctest.html
So do you recommend to take a megadose of zinc during the 4 weeks of PCT ?


4 - In the internet, you can see a lot of PCT protocols where the first day of PCT you take a megadose of Clomid like 150mg (just the first day). Why is that ? Is that bullshit or there is a scientific reason behind that ?


Once again thank you so much bro !

 

[JackSteel]

I can give you the answer to some of that but Dylan of course can chime in.

He may recommend 40 nolva on week 2 for more suppressive cycles. Or he may have typoed. It's not really going to make s gigantic difference. Typical protocol is 40/20/20/20

SR9009 can be used in pct but he probably doesn't mention it because like you said it's more expensive and it's just up to you whether to add it or not. There are many things you can add but we can't name them all. You make that call.

Zinc is the same answer really as SR. Sure you can take it if you choose. It's not going to make or break your pct. but if it were that effective at increasing free test consistently then everyone would be using it. Its just another of hundreds of supplements that may help some. For some it may not help at all. There are many variables that hormones depend on when it comes to nutrition. Drugs however have more consistent and dependable effects in pct. It can't hurt. Try it out.

Mega dosing clomid first week is probably bro science. There's no need to do that. 50mg should be more than enough. Same concept as front loading steroids. Not going to improve results at the end of the day.


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[RickRock]

Hi Dylan, I really understand that PCT is the most important part of a cycle for a lot of reasons you explained, and I would like to have please some precisions on it for some points, thank you very much:

1 - In your PCT video, you recommend for week 2 to take 40mg of Novaldex, however in all PCT protocols you wrote (not the small pct for a sarm cycle, but for an AAS cycle) you always recommend to take 20mg of Novaldex:

"clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day"


so which protocol is the best for week 2, 40mg or 20mg of Novaldex ?


2 - Since SR-9009 is non hormonal, has SO MUCH benefits and is incredible, why don't you recommend always to take it in PCT ? Is it because you tell people the less expensive method ? Taking SR-9009 during will result in a better recovery, don't you think so ?


3 - It has been proved that 240mg Zinc Sulfate a day increase free testosterone by 40%:
http://www.ergo-log.com/zinctest.html
So do you recommend to take a megadose of zinc during the 4 weeks of PCT ?


4 - In the internet, you can see a lot of PCT protocols where the first day of PCT you take a megadose of Clomid like 150mg (just the first day). Why is that ? Is that bullshit or there is a scientific reason behind that ?


Once again thank you so much bro !

Whether you take 40mg per day the second week or 20mg, doesn't really make much difference man. I'm pretty sure Dylan meant 40/20/20/20 in the video as that's normal protocol.

SR can be used in pct, but it doesn't have the cortisol lowering effects and anticatabolic effects of GW, which really helps recovery. That's why GW is recommended

Zinc can be thrown in, but those numbers are blown out of proportion. It won't cause anything significant for recovery in any way

You don't ever want to megadose or front load anything. That's complete broscience and how you bring on bad side effects. Stick to the dosing protocol

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hi Dylan, I really understand that PCT is the most important part of a cycle for a lot of reasons you explained, and I would like to have please some precisions on it for some points, thank you very much:

1 - In your PCT video, you recommend for week 2 to take 40mg of Novaldex, however in all PCT protocols you wrote (not the small pct for a sarm cycle, but for an AAS cycle) you always recommend to take 20mg of Novaldex:

"clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day"


so which protocol is the best for week 2, 40mg or 20mg of Novaldex ?


2 - Since SR-9009 is non hormonal, has SO MUCH benefits and is incredible, why don't you recommend always to take it in PCT ? Is it because you tell people the less expensive method ? Taking SR-9009 during will result in a better recovery, don't you think so ?


3 - It has been proved that 240mg Zinc Sulfate a day increase free testosterone by 40%:
http://www.ergo-log.com/zinctest.html
So do you recommend to take a megadose of zinc during the 4 weeks of PCT ?


4 - In the internet, you can see a lot of PCT protocols where the first day of PCT you take a megadose of Clomid like 150mg (just the first day). Why is that ? Is that bullshit or there is a scientific reason behind that ?


Once again thank you so much bro !

Hey bro... all good questions but with easy answers as well...

1. either protocol is fine... sometimes when i see a heavier cycle i go with 40/40 and i like to be over cautious at times, even when not necessary so to most viewers especially, since they are very inexperienced and need more caution, i like to convey a bit more caution... sometimes with newer guys, i go with 40/40 as opposed to 40/20... I try to always accommodate the specific person

2. SR would be great in PCT but its not necessary...

3. you are getting more than enough increase in free test if your running it properly and gw attacks cortisol stronger than anything, which is some of its main pct purpose... zinc is not necessary whatsoever... there is a thing called overkill... you CAN do whatever you want but what is absolutely necessary is what is advised...

4. You will notice that the ones that incur the clomid sides, are the ones who follow this method... its mythical bull shit at its finest...

 

[BraedenB]

I was fed so much bullshit bro science for my first cycle that I regret it. Really wish I found Dylan sooner but oh well live and learn. I did clomid at what I was told (I know now it's wrong) where the guy said to take 250mg day 1 then drop it down but I got acne, I was moody, emotional, I felt like poo poo. Had another buddy who believes in the "more is better" route and was taking over 300mg clomid!! Insane man! He was feeling like shit! He also was taking ridiculous amounts of hcg. Just plain idiotic. I've ran 3 pcts and my best one was the most recent one where I listened to Dylan and ran his pct protocol (minus the sarms as I hadn't researched them yet) and I had the best recovery. More is not better, just dial everything in and you'll do great in pct

 

[jlaix0]

Thank you all for your precise answers ! I have a clear vision now. I also understand now why so much people have clomid sides lol

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thank you all for your precise answers ! I have a clear vision now. I also understand now why so much people have clomid sides lol

absolutely bro.. A lot of it is that old school mentality that you have to blast clomid... this occurs for a number of reasons... 1. they did not have the right guidance and understanding on what a complete pct requires... 2. options of products were limited before 3. some just ran clomid or just nolvadex and by doing so, felt the need to try to compensate and blast doses 4. the broscience of front loading strikes again... 5. old school mentality that never changes with the times...


The key here is to understand, that over time, more research is done, better ways are always searched and found, and growth must occur on a daily basis... its like anything else... we dont have vcr's anymore... right? we don't have rotary phones LOL right? we dont carry around the infamous "pager" anymore because of cell phones... smart phones were developed etc... things are always improved upon or better ways are found... thats what we have scientists, technology geniuses, etc... they all find better or improved ways... the problems was back then, resources were limited as well as knowledge... one must truly understand that more is NOT always better... also, the areas of pct that need addressed for a HEALTHY and PROPER recovery are far more than just kickstarting hpta... yes, that is the primary of pct but not even close to a complete one... blasting clomid ruins a perfect pct... the key is to be able to get the most out of everything without hurting yourself and letting them actually work for you as opposed to against you... everything has balance, everything has a place and a role and you recover and come out far better than you were before...

 

[jlaix0]

absolutely bro.. A lot of it is that old school mentality that you have to blast clomid... this occurs for a number of reasons... 1. they did not have the right guidance and understanding on what a complete pct requires... 2. options of products were limited before 3. some just ran clomid or just nolvadex and by doing so, felt the need to try to compensate and blast doses 4. the broscience of front loading strikes again... 5. old school mentality that never changes with the times...


The key here is to understand, that over time, more research is done, better ways are always searched and found, and growth must occur on a daily basis... its like anything else... we dont have vcr's anymore... right? we don't have rotary phones LOL right? we dont carry around the infamous "pager" anymore because of cell phones... smart phones were developed etc... things are always improved upon or better ways are found... thats what we have scientists, technology geniuses, etc... they all find better or improved ways... the problems was back then, resources were limited as well as knowledge... one must truly understand that more is NOT always better... also, the areas of pct that need addressed for a HEALTHY and PROPER recovery are far more than just kickstarting hpta... yes, that is the primary of pct but not even close to a complete one... blasting clomid ruins a perfect pct... the key is to be able to get the most out of everything without hurting yourself and letting them actually work for you as opposed to against you... everything has balance, everything has a place and a role and you recover and come out far better than you were before...

Your knowledge and informations are pure gold, you are amazing bro, thank you so much for all the details and for your time !

 

[DylanGemelli]

Your knowledge and informations are pure gold, you are amazing bro, thank you so much for all the details and for your time !

absolutely brother... im more than happy to help man... Thank you for the support... its greatly appreciated bro...