Mast+test trt question.

[Sunshine1]

I apologize if it's been asked before, but I've seen in a couple places guys replacing some of their trt dose with equal parts mast. What is the benefit of such? Besides guys saying they just feel better..

I have also seen that supposedly it acts as a mild AI. I wouldn't be so quick to trust that part however without some bloods

Also is there anything else that needs to be monitored being that it's a dht derivative?

I apologize for the newb questions

 

[RickRock]

I apologize if it's been asked before, but I've seen in a couple places guys replacing some of their trt dose with equal parts mast. What is the benefit of such? Besides guys saying they just feel better..

I have also seen that supposedly it acts as a mild AI. I wouldn't be so quick to trust that part however without some bloods

Also is there anything else that needs to be monitored being that it's a dht derivative?

I apologize for the newb questions

Some people will use different compounds at lower dosages in conjunction with test as part of a cruise. It's not really TRT, since that is related to testosterone replacement. The idea is some people like a certain desired result so they may lower their test and add in another compound. Like instead of 200 test per week, maybe they run 150 test with 100 masteron. People also do other compounds like test and Deca or test and EQ as part of a cruise.

For the most part I would just stick to test as your TRT in between cycles. This is a bit more advanced approach, but can get done successfully. What exactly to use has a lot to do with what you're looking for and what your goals are

 

[DylanGemelli]

I apologize if it's been asked before, but I've seen in a couple places guys replacing some of their trt dose with equal parts mast. What is the benefit of such? Besides guys saying they just feel better..

I have also seen that supposedly it acts as a mild AI. I wouldn't be so quick to trust that part however without some bloods

Also is there anything else that needs to be monitored being that it's a dht derivative?

I apologize for the newb questions

bro please NEVER and I mean NEVER listen to anyone telling you ANY steroid acts as an ai... NO steroid is a substitute for an AI in any way... NOW, masteron and proviron have AI "properties" but in NO WAY does that make them a replacement... they keep you dry and can help to a point with control but they DO NOT control estrogen... being dht, obviously the main concern is hair loss... some tend to be more aggressive on dht but that's not completely common either... mast is fine to run on a cruise but primo, deca and eq and even tren are better options in terms of benefit... masteron is one that just needs to be ran higher at all times to really get anything from it... while primo and eq also need to be higher for max benefits, they still tend to do well on a cruise... i would switch it up to one of them to be honest... if you run deca or tren, it needs to be kept at 150... i just tried deca with primo on my cruise and it was better than any full cycle i have ran if that tells you anything... i also ran GW-501516 with them... proviron is often a good addition as well... sarms are safer on a cruise with test than anything though and generally the best method... they are built for this type of use...

 

[Sunshine1]

I didn't think it would help much if any as far as estro sides.
I saw that masteron was used before and didn't think about primo which will have my consideration. I'm cruising at 175mg of test a week split into 2 right now, what I'm mainly looking for is quality of life benefits while staying healthy, I guess my initial post was if subbing a dht compound (mast or primo) for half my test dose would increase the feeling of well being, again, while staying healthy. It seems to me that there would be less estro sides considering the lowered test amount. Not that the mast or primo is a substitution for an AI, and if bloods say I still need one I will do it.

Also hair loss im not all that concerned about, more so im wondering if I need to worry about my prostate on said dht compounds

I will also look into SARMs too, that's one area that I'm not too familiar with

 

[JackSteel]

Yes you can do equal test and mast it's what I'm doing now and it will increase free test and maybe help libidio some... Or should anyway. Mast binds very strongly to SHBG so any amount you take will increase you trt effectiveness at least some.


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[JackSteel]

As far as AI properties. I think there is an illusion or rather just protection from estrogen sides because mast binds to breast tissue so well and can protect from gyno and also has a drying out effect so it SEEMS like it works as an anti-estrogen but really just is protecting you from sides. Does it work for everyone? No. It is clearly a controversial topic. But me personally I find I have such little potential for high estrogen that I can get away with using mast instead of an AI. Again, this is not 100% effective method. I found 500mg a week and more can make my itchy nipples and lumps go away quick. Everyone is different as is the case with all AAS.


I'm personally using 200 test/200 mast/100 deca on my cruise right now and my libido is as high as it's been in about a year. Take that however you wish. It's something to experiment with but don't ever do a big cycle of aromatizing compounds and rely on mast for estrogen if you don't know how you'll respond. That's asking for trouble.

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[JL14028]

As far as AI properties. I think there is an illusion or rather just protection from estrogen sides because mast binds to breast tissue so well and can protect from gyno and also has a drying out effect so it SEEMS like it works as an anti-estrogen but really just is protecting you from sides. Does it work for everyone? No. It is clearly a controversial topic. But me personally I find I have such little potential for high estrogen that I can get away with using mast instead of an AI. Again, this is not 100% effective method. I found 500mg a week and more can make my itchy nipples and lumps go away quick. Everyone is different as is the case with all AAS.


I'm personally using 200 test/200 mast/100 deca on my cruise right now and my libido is as high as it's been in about a year. Take that however you wish. It's something to experiment with but don't ever do a big cycle of aromatizing compounds and rely on mast for estrogen if you don't know how you'll respond. That's asking for trouble.

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JackSteel....which Masteron are we talking about....enthanate or propionate? Just curious bud.

 

[RickRock]

Yes you can do equal test and mast it's what I'm doing now and it will increase free test and maybe help libidio some... Or should anyway. Mast binds very strongly to SHBG so any amount you take will increase you trt effectiveness at least some.


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This is a very good point about the effects on SHBG and free test

 

[RickRock]

JackSteel....which Masteron are we talking about....enthanate or propionate? Just curious bud.

I'm assuming enanthate. It wouldn't make sense using short esters during a cruise Imo

 

[RickRock]

As far as AI properties. I think there is an illusion or rather just protection from estrogen sides because mast binds to breast tissue so well and can protect from gyno and also has a drying out effect so it SEEMS like it works as an anti-estrogen but really just is protecting you from sides. Does it work for everyone? No. It is clearly a controversial topic. But me personally I find I have such little potential for high estrogen that I can get away with using mast instead of an AI. Again, this is not 100% effective method. I found 500mg a week and more can make my itchy nipples and lumps go away quick. Everyone is different as is the case with all AAS.


I'm personally using 200 test/200 mast/100 deca on my cruise right now and my libido is as high as it's been in about a year. Take that however you wish. It's something to experiment with but don't ever do a big cycle of aromatizing compounds and rely on mast for estrogen if you don't know how you'll respond. That's asking for trouble.

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I'm the same way, as I am not sensitive to estrogen or estrogen sides at all.

However, that obviously wouldn't work well for most people

 

[JackSteel]

JackSteel....which Masteron are we talking about....enthanate or propionate? Just curious bud.

Either one but I'm currently using prop. In the past I've used enanthate with the same results


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[Sunshine1]

Do any of you ever have any prostate issues with a dht derivative at low doses?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Do any of you ever have any prostate issues with a dht derivative at low doses?

you should not have any issues on a low dose of dht... its not a guarantee but definitely not likely

 

[DylanGemelli]

I didn't think it would help much if any as far as estro sides.
I saw that masteron was used before and didn't think about primo which will have my consideration. I'm cruising at 175mg of test a week split into 2 right now, what I'm mainly looking for is quality of life benefits while staying healthy, I guess my initial post was if subbing a dht compound (mast or primo) for half my test dose would increase the feeling of well being, again, while staying healthy. It seems to me that there would be less estro sides considering the lowered test amount. Not that the mast or primo is a substitution for an AI, and if bloods say I still need one I will do it.

Also hair loss im not all that concerned about, more so im wondering if I need to worry about my prostate on said dht compounds

I will also look into SARMs too, that's one area that I'm not too familiar with

yes, primo especially increases the feeling of well being

 

[Sunshine1]

Great. That's what I was looking for. And Dylan, not that I'm trying to refute or challenge you in anyway, I just want to be informed, but Why primo over mast?

 

[RickRock]

Great. That's what I was looking for. And Dylan, not that I'm trying to refute or challenge you in anyway, I just want to be informed, but Why primo over mast?

Both are great options either way. Masteron probably will give you more of a boost in the libido department but primo you'll probably feel great on.

 

[TX TERROR]

Both are great options either way. Masteron probably will give you more of a boost in the libido department but primo you'll probably feel great on.

So this has been running through my head quite a bit. I've done the mast and test. Eh whatev... rather do proviron from my experience. For some reason mast just wast agreeing with me at the time. Hair got trashed too.

BUT. Primo and test... hmmm. Now that's a thought. My libido has been so retarded high. It's seriously not even funny. The lady runs and hides at this point. Lol. And I just feel fucking great right now. It's been a couple weeks now on low dose primo and test.
This is the first week at 400mg primo with 200 test and it's just getting better and better it seems.

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[Sunshine1]

So this has been running through my head quite a bit. I've done the mast and test. Eh whatev... rather do proviron from my experience. For some reason mast just wast agreeing with me at the time. Hair got trashed too.

BUT. Primo and test... hmmm. Now that's a thought. My libido has been so retarded high. It's seriously not even funny. The lady runs and hides at this point. Lol. And I just feel fucking great right now. It's been a couple weeks now on low dose primo and test.
This is the first week at 400mg primo with 200 test and it's just getting better and better it seems.

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Now dosing, at 175 t cyp a week now, can I just do a 90mg/90mg mix?

 

[9th Wonder]

So this has been running through my head quite a bit. I've done the mast and test. Eh whatev... rather do proviron from my experience. For some reason mast just wast agreeing with me at the time. Hair got trashed too.

BUT. Primo and test... hmmm. Now that's a thought. My libido has been so retarded high. It's seriously not even funny. The lady runs and hides at this point. Lol. And I just feel fucking great right now. It's been a couple weeks now on low dose primo and test.
This is the first week at 400mg primo with 200 test and it's just getting better and better it seems.

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Lol.. That's some funny shit. That's how my libido was on Tren. She was like, "no more Tren, you're fucking ridiculous right now".

 

[SaladTossingBitch]

As far as AI properties. I think there is an illusion or rather just protection from estrogen sides because mast binds to breast tissue so well and can protect from gyno and also has a drying out effect so it SEEMS like it works as an anti-estrogen but really just is protecting you from sides. Does it work for everyone? No. It is clearly a controversial topic. But me personally I find I have such little potential for high estrogen that I can get away with using mast instead of an AI. Again, this is not 100% effective method. I found 500mg a week and more can make my itchy nipples and lumps go away quick. Everyone is different as is the case with all AAS.


I'm personally using 200 test/200 mast/100 deca on my cruise right now and my libido is as high as it's been in about a year. Take that however you wish. It's something to experiment with but don't ever do a big cycle of aromatizing compounds and rely on mast for estrogen if you don't know how you'll respond. That's asking for trouble.

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Excellent info. Thank you.

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