Low Tren/High Test

[MarkD]

I just started running my Winter blast like this. I typically always run my tren high with my test behind it a decent amount. This time I am trying it a bit different.

Test E 800mgs EW
Tren A 75mgs EOD
Arimidex .05 EOD

I usually start my Tren blasts like this, one week at 75 EOD then ramp up to 100 EOD with Tren E 200mgs EW. LAst time around I also was trying out Tren Hex at 200mgs EW. My test was only at 400 mgs EW. I've always done it this way and gotten great results BUT I want to try something a bit different this time around. I will be adding Masteron and TRNE/TNE as a preworkout once it lands. This is also different for me because I like to use EQ with Tren and Test. My training regimen and life is about to change significantly in the next week and a half, I'd like to take advantage while I have the chance. Full log with pics will be coming soon.

I know I have read on herebefore about people doing this, refresh my memory with some of your experiences.

 

[RickRock]

I just started running my Winter blast like this. I typically always run my tren high with my test behind it a decent amount. This time I am trying it a bit different.

Test E 800mgs EW
Tren A 75mgs EOD
Arimidex .05 EOD

I usually start my Tren blasts like this, one week at 75 EOD then ramp up to 100 EOD with Tren E 200mgs EW. LAst time around I also was trying out Tren Hex at 200mgs EW. My test was only at 400 mgs EW. I've always done it this way and gotten great results BUT I want to try something a bit different this time around. I will be adding Masteron and TRNE/TNE as a preworkout once it lands. This is also different for me because I like to use EQ with Tren and Test. My training regimen and life is about to change significantly in the next week and a half, I'd like to take advantage while I have the chance. Full log with pics will be coming soon.

I know I have read on herebefore about people doing this, refresh my memory with some of your experiences.

A lot of people seem to be fans of the high Tren low test approach to that cycle, but I'm ,ugh different on my preference. I like ,y test to be at least even if not higher than my Tren. I always get great results like that compared to the other methods, which I have also ran. I do respond favorably to high doses of test. And have very low estrogen sensitivity. I think this has a lot to do with why that method works so well for me

 

[RickRock]

I'm a big fan. To me is pointless running high test with tren. It's dwarves it. Waste oil lol. Run enough test for whatever makes you feel Better, but I've seen no benefit in my own cycles with both high.

This is what a lot of people claim I know, but I think it all comes back to how you respond to test. Just from my own experience I had twice as much gains when my test was higher than Tren, than when my test was lower than Tren. It's not for everyone but works incredibly well for me.

 

[the force]

Ive seen varying opinions, whatever ratio you run,, make sure you got test with the tren

 

[MarkD]

I am noticing that so far I am putting on mass not unlike drol/test/tren. The difference being that it's a little bit more wet. I've used Tren usually for staying lean and strong but lately I am jumping on the mass train. I am not very estrogen sensitive either Rick. I will let you know how it works. Once I am a little bit further in I will start my log in the log section.

 

[RickRock]

I am noticing that so far I am putting on mass not unlike drol/test/tren. The difference being that it's a little bit more wet. I've used Tren usually for staying lean and strong but lately I am jumping on the mass train. I am not very estrogen sensitive either Rick. I will let you know how it works. Once I am a little bit further in I will start my log in the log section.

Sounds good man. I'll defnitely follow that log when you have it up

 

[RickRock]

Ive seen varying opinions, whatever ratio you run,, make sure you got test with the tren

Defnitely. Test should be the base of every cycle in my opinion.

 

[mastermolnar]

Ive run high test in my past tren cycles. I did the opposite this time and lowered my test considerably and upped the tren accordingly. So far I dont notice much difference but I feel pretty great still.

 

[Guppy]

Ive always run a 1:1 ratio myself. Hey if it works for you, listen to your body.

 

[Jake]

I am noticing that so far I am putting on mass not unlike drol/test/tren. The difference being that it's a little bit more wet. I've used Tren usually for staying lean and strong but lately I am jumping on the mass train. I am not very estrogen sensitive either Rick. I will let you know how it works. Once I am a little bit further in I will start my log in the log section.

To me your test is just a bit too high. When you run something like this you take the chance of the majority of effects coming from the aas that is in the over load mode...which for you would be the test.If you want a little bit drier type of mass with good gains you could drop the test to 500 and then do some deca at 200...or npp,or tbol.
I had a good kick one year with just a 400 trenE, 400 testcyp and 400 deca. I really don't like getting one aas way out ratio with the others in the cycle. Keep your ratio closer.
Either up your tren or lower your test. If you follow what you laid out I am afraid that your gains are going to look test gains...plus like ny says..down the shitter goes your test erl!

 

[MarkD]

To me your test is just a bit too high. When you run something like this you take the chance of the majority of effects coming from the aas that is in the over load mode...which for you would be the test.If you want a little bit drier type of mass with good gains you could drop the test to 500 and then do some deca at 200...or npp,or tbol.
I had a good kick one year with just a 400 trenE, 400 testcyp and 400 deca. I really don't like getting one aas way out ratio with the others in the cycle. Keep your ratio closer.
Either up your tren or lower your test. If you follow what you laid out I am afraid that your gains are going to look test gains...plus like ny says..down the shitter goes your test erl!

I'm starting to notice that I do have that bulkier test look right now. I'm going to most likely adjust my ratios if it persists. It's still early enough for me to flucuate and not cause any issues. As of the 1st of November I will have almost a solid month to do nothing but train. No work, just training.

How do you like running 2 compounds such as deca/npp with tren?

 

[Jake]

I'm starting to notice that I do have that bulkier test look right now. I'm going to most likely adjust my ratios if it persists. It's still early enough for me to flucuate and not cause any issues. As of the 1st of November I will have almost a solid month to do nothing but train. No work, just training.

How do you like running 2 compounds such as deca/npp with tren?

I think that for what you are seeking npp would be great.Not both....either or.

 

[JackSteel]

This is what a lot of people claim I know, but I think it all comes back to how you respond to test. Just from my own experience I had twice as much gains when my test was higher than Tren, than when my test was lower than Tren. It's not for everyone but works incredibly well for me.

Right. If I don't run more test then I get worse side effects personally. And as I've said many times before I can feel the most minute amount of any AAS let alone tren. I'd like to increase my dose this cycle and see what happens. I'll have to increase my test too but it's time to really find out my sweet spots. I think everyone needs to play with it a bit.


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[RickRock]

Right. If I don't run more test then I get worse side effects personally. And as I've said many times before I can feel the most minute amount of any AAS let alone tren. I'd like to increase my dose this cycle and see what happens. I'll have to increase my test too but it's time to really find out my sweet spots. I think everyone needs to play with it a bit.


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Yep, you and I are on the same page there buddy. When my test was low with Tren I got more sides than any other time running tren. Results were only so so as well.

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

Yep, you and I are on the same page there buddy. When my test was low with Tren I got more sides than any other time running tren. Results were only so so as well.

Tren is very potent i prefer my test higher than my tren if not a 1:1 ratio, i just always felt better this way. Test always makes me feel great, tren does not for me personally. I am sure everyone will have their own preference when it comes to this, i just like to feel good on my cycles as much as i can. And if i had to allow my body to become accustomed to a higher dose of either compound i would rather it be the test.