Low dose lean bulking cycle

[Fitnessmodelnotbodybuilde]

I am trying to effectively cycle with what some would consider to be very low doses, I am aware they are low. I believe low dose cycles yield the best returns and prevent the body from becoming used to the exogenous compounds as quickly. I am 27 6'2 201lbs 8.6% bf ( bf measured on home scale, but I think accurate) I have done 5 cycles thus far. 500mg test e 30mg dbol, 500 test prop 350 mast prop, 500 test prop 300 tren ace 300 mast prop, 750mg test e 300mg mast e 50mg tbol, 800mg test e 400mg tren e.

The cycle I propose is: 12 weeks - 300mg test e/wk 100mg mast e/wk (just for shbg) 100mg tren hex/wk (15mg dbol preworkout 5 days a week)

I am an underwear model, not a bodybuilder, my goal is to look as aesthetically pleasing as possible

I have gotten horrible depression and anxiety from tren before, could that be from the enanthate ester not working well for tren in humans? (seeing as hex ester was the only one approved for human use) or just too high of a dose? (400mg tren e)

Pct will be hcg 500iu eod for the two weeks while waiting for esters to clear, then clomid 50/50/50/25 I have nolva aswell, but not sure if I should use after tren?

 

[jp1957]

that is woefully lacking pct.

take a minute and search for pct for steroids.

1> HCG is never ever ever run during pct. (run weeks 9-12)
2> No cortisol control.

Basic AAS pct is

clomid, nolva, gw, and ostarine. Aromasin during pct as well.

Search is your friend.

 

[Fitnessmodelnotbodybuilde]

Thank you, I appreciate the help. I also forgot to mention im running aromasin ed at 12.5mg throughout cycle and pct. That pct has worked for me before, but i understand it is lacking and agree it should be altered. Running nolva after tren is okay? I've read studies that ostarine is suppressive, so I don't personally think i'll use that. I do like the idea of running gw with it, I've never used it and have only seen good things about it other than the flawed cancer study. I can assure you i've done countless hours of research, their are just large discrepancies between different studies and peoples opinions.

 

[jp1957]

Ostarine is critical component for PCT because of its healing properties. 4 weeks is non suppressive.

 

[Fitnessmodelnotbodybuilde]

Aside from the pct issues that will be sorted out, what do you think of the cycle itself?

 

[NJBro]

Wheres your prolactin control? Caber, Prami?

I dont really think that the esters have much to do with the sides caused by Tren. If your sensitive Id run Ace so you have the option to stop and it will clear quickly.

 

[Fitnessmodelnotbodybuilde]

Caber would be .5mg e3d

 

[DylanGemelli]

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…

 

[DylanGemelli]

ostarine IS NOT suppressive at 4 weeks of use and its very very bad to not have your facts straight... the cycle itself is fine but tren is tren and if you had issues with tren e, you are going to have issues with any of them...

 

[Fitnessmodelnotbodybuilde]

Thank you, I appreciate your input. In your opinion, do you think that 100mg mast e/wk would be sufficient to maximize results from test and tren? I'm aware 600+ is the sweet spot for contest prep and such, but my goal is to use it as more of stronger injectable proviron per say. I will consider the use of ostarine. Do you think lowering the dose of tren from 400 before to 100 now would have much of a chance to avoid sides such as sever depression and anxiety? Last time I used it I was mentally destroyedfrom paranoia by the thinking about my significant other having ex's

 

[Fitnessmodelnotbodybuilde]

Also, do you have any alternative AAS cycle/doses that you think would work better for my goals?

 

[EZ_E]

I like a "get the most from the least" as well but a few suggestions;

If tren had THAT kind of impact on you then DO NOT use it.

D-bol is probably not the best choice for your goals.

If you are indeed the BF that you stated then take advantage of the mast, since you're dropping the tren bump up the mast.

 

[Fitnessmodelnotbodybuilde]

What if I substituted it for 30mg tbol ed?

 

[EZ_E]

What if I substituted it for 30mg tbol ed?

Substituted what for t-bol?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thank you, I appreciate your input. In your opinion, do you think that 100mg mast e/wk would be sufficient to maximize results from test and tren? I'm aware 600+ is the sweet spot for contest prep and such, but my goal is to use it as more of stronger injectable proviron per say. I will consider the use of ostarine. Do you think lowering the dose of tren from 400 before to 100 now would have much of a chance to avoid sides such as sever depression and anxiety? Last time I used it I was mentally destroyedfrom paranoia by the thinking about my significant other having ex's

100 mg of masteron is the biggest waste you could possibly do my man and you wont see much of anything from 100 mg of tren... for the life of me, why are you running any steroid with your goals? i modeled for 6 years, high fashion and would NEVER have used steroids then... you dont even need them... it literally makes no sense because so much could go wrong, especially with dbol... you wont be modeling shit using dbol... you do what you want broseph but i cant see any reason to use steroids.. sarms would be perfect here and if steroids were, i would be all over that for you absolutely but i just cannot figure this one out, especially having modeled for as long as i have...

 

[Fitnessmodelnotbodybuilde]

substiting 30mg tbol ed, as opposed to using 15mg dbol prewokout

 

[DylanGemelli]

substiting 30mg tbol ed, as opposed to using 15mg dbol prewokout

clearly you are not listening and i dont reason with the unreasonable... good luck bro...