LGD-4033 vs RAD-140

[YamahaC76]

I know these compounds can be stacked, but What do users prefer? I know RAD140 simulates test, or am I wrong. Does it stimulate testosterone production but no conversion to estrogen? Just how different are these compounds for putting on weight?

Also, if you run GW on a sarms cycle, do you still need it in PCT?

And finally, does clomid stimulate test production or does it just block estrogen? If taken on a sarms cycle, does it increase test production? Does this increase DHT conversion or does it hardly have an effect on it?

Yes this is 20 questions, I want to know more about sarms haha. I find reading on this subject helps the info stick more than listening on youtube, even though that's great too!

**Update** Also saw some users reported that LGD messed up their joints? Is this because it dries out the joints or did they not get LGD ? Cheers guys!

 

[blaze91]

real lgd does no such thing....

 

[SdBronco]

Real LGD will help your joints, it's helped my shoulder in the past. Only DHT based prohormones will hurt joints, this is why you never get Sarms in pill or capsule form.

Yea clomid stimulates test production very well, it's an extremely weak estrogen blocker, and it actually mimics estrogen itself.

In my opinion LGD ran for 12 weeks at 10mg a day will give you more bang for your buck than RAD but it's hard to compare them, stacking them together I'm sure has nice benefits but I've never tried the Rad


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[SdBronco]

And GW does nothing in pct except enhance performance and lower cortisol. It does not help testosterone you still need both clomid and GW.

GW by itself will not need a pct.




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[Montgomery]

I would go for LGD over RAD for mass…I've run both together and separate twice

 

[RickRock]

I know these compounds can be stacked, but What do users prefer? I know RAD140 simulates test, or am I wrong. Does it stimulate testosterone production but no conversion to estrogen? Just how different are these compounds for putting on weight?

Also, if you run GW on a sarms cycle, do you still need it in PCT?

And finally, does clomid stimulate test production or does it just block estrogen? If taken on a sarms cycle, does it increase test production? Does this increase DHT conversion or does it hardly have an effect on it?

Yes this is 20 questions, I want to know more about sarms haha. I find reading on this subject helps the info stick more than listening on youtube, even though that's great too!

**Update** Also saw some users reported that LGD messed up their joints? Is this because it dries out the joints or did they not get LGD ? Cheers guys!

Rad has testosterone like effcts but does not increase your own production. It also does not convert to estrogen.

You always need GW in pct regardless of whether it's in the cycle or not. That's when cortisol rises post cycle and why it's included to lower it

Clomid does both increase test production and block estrogen (it dos not lower it), and that's why it is part of pct.

True legit LGD will heal and help joints.....not hinder them


Both rad and LGD are great for lean mass and strength gains. You will find both of these in the highest quality at www.sarmsx.com

 

[DylanGemelli]

anyone that claims lgd dried out their joints absolutely did not have authentic lgd... i guarantee that bro... which one you go with strictly depends on your goals... lets make it simple... rad is far more versatile but lgd is more profound meaning it adds the most size of any sarm and has healing properties but rad has a wider array of benefits... not as profound but more... stacking them together is an amazing stack

 

[YamahaC76]

My goal is certainly recomp, I believe. I do need to truthfully get bigger without contributing to an increase in stomach fat. Also real strength needs, and this is the most crucial need, not just size. LGD sounded the way to go for sometime, but RAD sparked my interest of course. SR has sparked my interest too. Iv'e no interest in S4, work in a low lit area @night so I'm not interested. The reason Im interested in SR is to shape up my stomach area.

Is there any Sarms stack that the compounds work against each other? Or all they all mutually beneficial, even if they aren't fully synergistic ?
What about this stack here?:
mk-2866
SR
LGD

If not this stack, what would we suggest? Cheers guys!

 

[DylanGemelli]

My goal is certainly recomp, I believe. I do need to truthfully get bigger without contributing to an increase in stomach fat. Also real strength needs, and this is the most crucial need, not just size. LGD sounded the way to go for sometime, but RAD sparked my interest of course. SR has sparked my interest too. Iv'e no interest in S4, work in a low lit area @night so I'm not interested. The reason Im interested in SR is to shape up my stomach area.

Is there any Sarms stack that the compounds work against each other? Or all they all mutually beneficial, even if they aren't fully synergistic ?
What about this stack here?:
mk-2866
SR
LGD

If not this stack, what would we suggest? Cheers guys!

none work against each other brother, not at all... there is huge amount of synergy amongst them all but obviously some work better together than others... they ALL go together well though... with your goals, i would take a good look at GW501516, RAD140 and LGD... that is PERFECT for your goals... here are the links to purchase everything you need followed by the layout..

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-off (Discount Page)

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138

1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid 3 mg per day


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[YamahaC76]

Perfect, thanks guys, 30% off is the way to go.

I have a question about clomid. How does it stand by itself as a supplement to keep natural test levels high even if not on cycle? Has anybody done this? Basically I'm asking how it compares to something like a Super Horney goat weed supplement as well as a natural libido enhancer. Iv'e taken those before, they're good but also hit or miss sometimes. As far as arms go, is GW the only one that prevents a rise in cortisol?

I think this is a good question because cialis and viagra may help in one area, but as far as boosting actual libido and creating that influx of male hormone goodness, that's not really it's job. Thus, my clomid question because some users may want to use it as a test booster if it is capable of doing so! Let me know! Beats buying 'whatever I guess this stuff works' at vitamin shoppe! Ya want the 'oh man no question, THIS stuff'

 

[RickRock]

Perfect, thanks guys, 30% off is the way to go.

I have a question about clomid. How does it stand by itself as a supplement to keep natural test levels high even if not on cycle? Has anybody done this? Basically I'm asking how it compares to something like a Super Horney goat weed supplement as well as a natural libido enhancer. Iv'e taken those before, they're good but also hit or miss sometimes. As far as arms go, is GW the only one that prevents a rise in cortisol?

I think this is a good question because cialis and viagra may help in one area, but as far as boosting actual libido and creating that influx of male hormone goodness, that's not really it's job. Thus, my clomid question because some users may want to use it as a test booster if it is capable of doing so! Let me know! Beats buying 'whatever I guess this stuff works' at vitamin shoppe! Ya want the 'oh man no question, THIS stuff'

Clomid is very effctive at raising testosterone, and it's fine to run as a boost when you want to do so. However, it's nothing you want to run long term at all.

As for cortisol and GW, there is no replacement for it. It's a one of a kind compound

 

[redsoons]

Everyone,

While on this topic

I'm running an enhanced super stack. According to recommendations with RAD I'll be needing to purchase 3 more bottles (the stack came with 3 but running at 20mgs a day will cause me to get more).

I too am interested in healing properties of lgd.

Would it be acceptable to transition out of rad140 into lgd for the last 6 weeks or so (when ever I run out of rad140)?

I still have the mini pct to run at the end.

Your opinion?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Everyone,

While on this topic

I'm running an enhanced super stack. According to recommendations with RAD I'll be needing to purchase 3 more bottles (the stack came with 3 but running at 20mgs a day will cause me to get more).

I too am interested in healing properties of lgd.

Would it be acceptable to transition out of rad140 into lgd for the last 6 weeks or so (when ever I run out of rad140)?

I still have the mini pct to run at the end.

Your opinion?

n running 6 weeks of either makes no sense considering they dont even peak until week 8...

 

[redsoons]

n running 6 weeks of either makes no sense considering they dont even peak until week 8...

Say that again? I think part of the answer was cut off

 

[DylanGemelli]

Say that again? I think part of the answer was cut off

nothing got cut off... running any of them six weeks makes no sense whatsoever... they do not even peak until week 8

 

[redsoons]

I didn't know that!

Thanks for the information.

 

[blaze91]

Rick... what do you consider long term??? what if you ran say 25mg on the last week of every month... 3 weeks off 1 week on?? what are your thoughts on that....

 

[DylanGemelli]

I didn't know that!

Thanks for the information.

for sure bro, thats what im here for! i will not let you waste time and money whatsoever...

 

[YamahaC76]

Hey mates, stopping in for a few updates and some quality advice. This is my most valuable thread involving info so far. Ill give a full explanation on my ostarine experience at about the 6 week mark, as I am already seeing it's benefits. In fact, I twisted my ankle and went on a hike 2 days later! So, it's time for another round of 20 questions!

So, Iv'e been on my MK-2866 for 3 weeks now, will keep going strong no question. Am a bit unsure if Libido is being effected very minimally, but will continue to monitor it. I picked up some Nitraflex and I love it. Anyway, to boost libido; Can I supplement DAA during cycle or will the test from Nitraflex be enough?

I like my MK-2866, The Swiss army knife of SARMS, I noticed very rapidly the muscle hardening doing very minimal exercise in the beginning. But I'd like to add in LGD-4033 and perhaps Cardarine as well. So, heres my bullet points;

1. Cycle of MK-2866 lasts 12 weeks, so last Sunday of May for me. If I throw in LGD-4033 now, do I need to stop it at the same time as MK? This would only be 8 weeks, and I know thats leaving a third on the table, so if theres a way around that please advise. Taking LGD-4033 now for 12 weeks will overlap with my 4 week pct of clomid and GW.

2. If I add Cardarine to my cycle, It says to dose 30 Minutes before workout. This however will leave me taking Nitraflex 15 minutes after Ingestion and that is already one HELL of a pre workout for me. I personally love it, but I feel like it's about at the max of what I want comfortably from a pre workout. If Cardarine is giving energy boosts, I'd prefer to take it in the morning upon wakening then. I usually work out 2 hours after awakening anyway. Point being; I do not want to mix anything else with Nitraflex haha. Definitely want to address this brothers, thanks.

3. I want to take LGD, Period. It will help in my goals as you guys have said here, so how does this change my cycle adding it in. Additionally, I understand that perhaps I should finish out the ostarine cycle before. But, please advise, cheers!

4. I'm sure this addressed plenty, but this does mean of course I will both be taking GW as part of a cycle, and a PCT. This is a lot of GW, It's fine?

5. Iv'e read Dylan advise on MK-2866 for preventing cortisol in addition to GW. Since the backbone of my cycle IS MK, will my cortisol levels already be fairly low once iv'e completely 12 weeks?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hey mates, stopping in for a few updates and some quality advice. This is my most valuable thread involving info so far. Ill give a full explanation on my ostarine experience at about the 6 week mark, as I am already seeing it's benefits. In fact, I twisted my ankle and went on a hike 2 days later! So, it's time for another round of 20 questions!

So, Iv'e been on my MK-2866 for 3 weeks now, will keep going strong no question. Am a bit unsure if Libido is being effected very minimally, but will continue to monitor it. I picked up some Nitraflex and I love it. Anyway, to boost libido; Can I supplement DAA during cycle or will the test from Nitraflex be enough?

I like my MK-2866, The Swiss army knife of SARMS, I noticed very rapidly the muscle hardening doing very minimal exercise in the beginning. But I'd like to add in LGD-4033 and perhaps Cardarine as well. So, heres my bullet points;

1. Cycle of MK-2866 lasts 12 weeks, so last Sunday of May for me. If I throw in LGD-4033 now, do I need to stop it at the same time as MK? This would only be 8 weeks, and I know thats leaving a third on the table, so if theres a way around that please advise. Taking LGD-4033 now for 12 weeks will overlap with my 4 week pct of clomid and GW.

2. If I add Cardarine to my cycle, It says to dose 30 Minutes before workout. This however will leave me taking Nitraflex 15 minutes after Ingestion and that is already one HELL of a pre workout for me. I personally love it, but I feel like it's about at the max of what I want comfortably from a pre workout. If Cardarine is giving energy boosts, I'd prefer to take it in the morning upon wakening then. I usually work out 2 hours after awakening anyway. Point being; I do not want to mix anything else with Nitraflex haha. Definitely want to address this brothers, thanks.

3. I want to take LGD, Period. It will help in my goals as you guys have said here, so how does this change my cycle adding it in. Additionally, I understand that perhaps I should finish out the ostarine cycle before. But, please advise, cheers!

4. I'm sure this addressed plenty, but this does mean of course I will both be taking GW as part of a cycle, and a PCT. This is a lot of GW, It's fine?

5. Iv'e read Dylan advise on MK-2866 for preventing cortisol in addition to GW. Since the backbone of my cycle IS MK, will my cortisol levels already be fairly low once iv'e completely 12 weeks?

1. so, if you add lgd, stop mk at 12 weeks as normal but continue lgd to week 16 then start your pct... that is perfectly fine to do...

2. you can take cardarine any time of the day you want, just try to keep it consistent each day...

3. already answered this in question 1

4. bro, it wouldnt be recommended that way if it were not fine... gw is ran 16 weeks at a time

5. cortisol automatically raises in pct, regardless of how you control it on cycle... thats the entire point of having gw in your pct...