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[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

What alot of people do not understand, is that when you dose your injectables at eg 100mg/ml, unless you are using Base hormone, you are actually NOT getting 100mg of the hormone.

Labs attach the ester to the hormone in order to slow down the breakdown/release of the hormone into your system. The general rule is that, the longer the Ester (how long the half life of hormone is) the less hormone you will be getting mg for mg.

Half life is the time from when you inject a hormone, until when it has reached 50% of injected dose.

EG Testosterone Enanthate has a half life of 5-7 days depending upon ones metabolism. that means that if you inject 100mg of testosterone enanthate, in 5-7 days, your body will have used and disposed of 50mg (or 50%)

anyway, when using AAS, the most important thing you can do to minimize side effects, is to keep your levels as stable as possible. that may mean injecting smaller doses more frequently. your body works hard to balance its hormones, hence why if you increase or decrease an AAS or add something to your cycle, your mood is more likely to become unstable for about 2 weeks until your levels stabilize.
Personally, I will pin Test E or Test C twice a week.

I HATE WHEN I SEE SOME PEANUT ONLY PINNING TEST PROP ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK. MAKES NO SENSE! but there is really is alot of misinformation out there. here is a guide to help plan your cycles properly to make sure that your levels dont drop sub PAR and encourage more side effect. Especially worth noting when doing orals.

Oral steroids Drug Active half-life

Anabolicum Vister (Quinbolone) - Active Life: less than 8-12 hours
Activella (Norethindrone Acetate) - 9 hours
Anadrol / Anapolan (Oxymetholone) - 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (Oxandrolone) - 9 hours
Orabolin (Ethylestrenol) - 3.3 hours
Halotestin (Fluoxymesterone) - 9.2 hours.
Dimethyltestosterone (Bolasterone/Myagen) - 6 hours
Dianabol (Methandrostenolone, Methandienone) - 4.5 to 6 hours
Methyltrienolone (MT/ M3/ Metribolone/ Oral tren) - 4 to 5 hours
Methasterone (Superdrol) - 8-12 hours
Methyltestosterone - 6-8 hours
Methylhydroxynandrolone (MOHN) - approx. 12 Hours
Oranabol (Oxymesterone) - 8-10 Hours
M1T (Methyl - 1 - Testosterone) - 5 hours
Sublingual Testosterone Cyclodextrin - 60-68 min
Winstrol (Stanozolol) - 9 hours (oral)
Tetrahydrogestrinone (The Clear / THG) - 24 to 48 hours
Turanabol ( 4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone) - 16 hours
Proviron (Mesterolone) - 12 - 13 hours
Cheque Drops (Mibolerone) - 3.7 hours
Methenolone Acetate - around 3 hours

Depot steroids Drug Active half-life

Nandrolone Phenyl Propionate (NPP) - 5 days
Deca-Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanate) - 6 days
Dynabolan (Nandrolone Undecanoate) - 6-7 days
Anadur (Nandrolone Hexylphenylpropionate) - 6-8 days
Dimethylnandrolone (DMN) - about 4 hours

Equipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate) - 14 days

Primobolan (Methenolone Enanthate) - 10.5 days
Methenolone Acetate (Injectable) - 4-5 days

Sustanon / Omnadren - 15 to 18 days

Winstrol (Stanozolol) - 24 hours (injectable)

Masterject (Masteron, Mastabol) (Drostanolone Propionate) - 1-2 days
Masterject (Masteron, Mastabol) (Drostanolone Enanthate) - 5-6 days

Stenbolone Acetate (Anatrofin) - 1-2 days

Methandriol Dipropionate - 1-2 days

Finaplix/Finaject (Trenbolone Acetate) - 24-48 hours
Trenbolone Enanthate - 7-10 days
Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate - 14 days.
Parabolan (Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate) - 14 days.

Testosterone Buciclate - 29.5 days (+/- 3.9 days)
Testosterone Undecanoate (Nebido) - 18.3(+-2.3) - 23.7 (+-2.7)
Testosterone Cypionate - around 8 days
Testosterone Enanthate - around 5-7 days
Testosterone Phenylpropionate - 2-3 days (active life 4-5 days)
Testosterone Propionate - 0.8-1.5 days (active life 3.5 days)
Testosterone Suspension - 2 peaks (immediately hits the blood stream when injected and then a few days later the solid particles are slowly absorbed by the body)
Agovirin Depot (Testosterone Isobutyrate) -12 to 15 Days
Dihydrotestosterone - 7 days


Ancillaries /Fat Burners Drug Active half-life

PI
Pramipexole Dihydrochloride (Mirapex, Mirapexin, Sifrol) - about 8 hours
Dostinex (Cabergoline) - between 63 to 69 hours
Parlodel (Bromocriptine Mesylate) - about 15 hours

AI
Arimidex (Anastrozole) - 30-46 hours
Femara (Letrozole) - 2-4 days
Aromasin (Exemestane) - about 24-27 hours
Cytadren (Aminoglutethimide) - 12.5 ± 1.6 hours.

An overview of the pharmacology and pharmacokinetics of the newer generation aromatase inhibitors anastrozole, letrozole, and exemestane

AE
Clomid (Clomiphene Citrate) - 5-7 days
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) - 5-7 days
FARESTON® (Toremifene citrate) - 5 days

Fat Burners

Albuterol (Salbutamol) - 2.85 (+/- 0.83) - 2.00 (+/- 0.49) hours
Clenbuterol - 36-48 hours
Ephedrine Hydrochloride - 3-6 hours
T3 (Triiodothyronine/Liothyronine Sodium) - 10 hours
T4 (Levothyroxine sodium/ L-thyroxine) - 7 days
Yohimbine Hydrochloride - 36 min

Other

Accutane (Isotretinoin) - 15-23 hours (acne)
VIAGRA (Sildenafil) - about 4 hours (erectile dysfunction
Tadalafil (Cialis) - 17.5 hours (erectile dysfunction)
Valium (Diazepam) - 1-3 hours (up to the age) / peak 1-1.5 hours
Lasix (Furosemide) - approximately 2 hours

It is also of importance to note that the ester has weight in your dose.
EG testosterone Enanthate only has approximatly 71mg of testosterone per 100mg of 'hormone'. the other 29mg is the ester attached.

so people that are only injecting 200-250 mg of test E a week, are getting 140-175 mg of hormone. While this is above your natty test production, (unless supplementing HCG and or Clomid) is it really worth shutting down your natty test for such minimal elevated levels?

Personally, I never recommend anything under 400-500mg of a longer estered testosterone for supplementation.

Its also interesting to note that while test prop's ester is shorter than test Ace, test ace actually has more test mg for mg than test prop, also you can pin every two days and still keep levels very stable.

Below I will attach the table for hormones and ester weights.

Steroid Remaining After Ester is Removed
100mg Testosterone Suspension (un-esterified Testosterone) = 100mg Testosterone
100mg Testosterone Acetate = 87.28mg Testosterone (288.4244/330.4611=0.872793802356)
100mg Testosterone Propionate = 83.72mg Testosterone (288.4244/344.4877=0.8372560181)
100mg Testosterone Isobutyrate = 80.45mg Testosterone (288.4244/358.5143 =0.8044990)
100mg Testosterone Pentanoate = 77.42mg Testosterone (288.4244/372.5408=0.774208892)
100mg Testosterone Trimethylacetate = 77.42mg Testosterone (288.4244/372.5408=0.7742)
100mg Testosterone Isocaproate = 74.61mg Testosterone (288.4244/386.5674=0.746116718)
100mg Testosterone Hemisuccinate = 74.24mg Testosterone (288.4244/388.4972 =0.74241)
100mg Testosterone Benzoate = 73.47mg Testosterone (288.4244/392.5305=0.7347821379)
100mg Testosterone Dichloroacetate = 72.22mg Testosterone (288.4244/399.3512=0.72223)
100mg Testosterone Enanthate = 71.99mg Testosterone (288.4244/400.5940=0.719991812)
100mg Testosterone Cypionate = 69.9mg Testosterone (288.4244/412.6047=0.6990332393)
100mg Testosterone Caprylate = 69.56mg Testosterone (288.4244/414.6206=0.695634515)
100mg Testosterone Phenylpropionate = 68.57mg Testosterone (288.4244/420.5836=0.6857)
100mg Testosterone-3-Phenylpropionate = 68.25mg Testost-e(288.4244/422.5995=0.6825)
100mg Testosterone Tosylate = 65.16mg Testosterone (288.4244/442.6108=0.65164338511)
100mg Testosterone Decanoate = 65.15mg Testosterone (288.4244/442.6737=0.651550792)
100mg Testosterone Undecanoate = 65.15mg Testosterone (288.4244/ 456.7003=0.651550)
100mg Testosterone Dodecanoate = 61.27mg Testosterone (288.4244/470.7269=0.6127213)

100mg Trenbolone Acetate = 86.54mg Trenbolone (270.37/312.4028)
100mg Trenbolone Enanthate = 70.68mg Trenbolone (270.37/382.5357)
100mg Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate = 65.85 mg Trenbolone (270.37/410.54)

100mg Nandrolone Acetate = 86.71mg Nandrolone (274.3978/316.4345 =0.867155130050)
100mg Nandrolone Propionate = 83mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 330.4611 = 0.830348261868)
100mg Nandrolone Hemisuccinate = 72.88mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 376.4865 =0.72883)
100mg Nandrolone Benzoate = 72.5mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 378.5039 = 0.7249536926)
100mg Nandrolone Enanthate= 70.98mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 386.5674 =0.7098317136)
100mg Nandrolone Cypionate = 68.84mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 398.5781 = 0.688441738)
100mg Nandrolone Caprylate = 68.49mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 400.5940 =0.684977308)
100mg Nandrolone Phenylpropionate = 67.49mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 406.5571 = 0.674)
100mg Nandrolone Decanoate = 64mg Nandrolone (274.3978/428.6472 =0.640148355104)
100mg Nandrolone Undecanoate = 61.98mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 442.6737 = 0.6198646)
100mg Nandrolone Dodecanoate = 60mg Nandrolone (274.3978/456.7003 = 0.600826844)
100mg Nandrolone P-Hexyloxyphenylpropionate = 54.15mg Nandrolone (274.3978/506.7159= 0.5415)

100mg Drostanolone Propionate = 84.45mg Drostanolone (304.4669/360.5301=0.844497)
100mg Drostanolone Enanthate = 73mg Drostanolone (304.4669/416.6365 = 0.7307734679)

100mg Boldenone Acetate = 87.20mg Boldenone (286.4085/328.4452 = 0.872013048143191)
100mg Boldenone Hemisuccinate = 74.1mg Boldenone (286.4085/386.4813 = 0.74106690)
100mg Boldenone Benzoate = 73.34mg Boldenone (286.4085/390.5146 = 0.7334130401270)
100mg Boldenone Hexahydrobenzoate = 72.22mg Boldenone (286.4085/ 396.5622 = 0.7222)
100mg Boldenone Undecylenate = 63.27mg Boldenone (286.4085/452.6686=0.6327112152)
100mg Boldenone Undecanoate = 62.99mg Boldenone (286.4085/ 454.6844 = 0.62990615)

100mg Methenolone Acetate = 87.8 mg Methenolone (302.4558/344.49=0.87798)
100mg Methenolone Enanthate = 72.95mg Methenolone (302.4558/414.6206 = 0.72947605)


Something to think about, and take into consideration when planning a cycle.

 

[THEANONYMOUS]

LOL SLIGHTLY UNDERDOSED AT BEST. AT BEST!
For every 200mg you should expect a 1000ng increase on bloodwork. At least that is how it effects me.
Not more than that, pharma doesn't even do that to anyone. If you find gear that brings you 6x - 8x what you inject it is overdosed plain and simple.
Also, you are aware that RadJay is actually subsidiary of Vermodje right?
Even if your test is worth a fuck 10mg of aromasin ED for 750mg? You can't expect your bloods to be in range, hell they prescribe more at the TRT clinic for 200mg a week.
Aromasin is a weak AI which is why pro's only use it for cruising. It's useless passed a gram.
I can run 2g of testosterone but only with .5 letrozole ED. There is a reason pro's don't use aromasin at high doses bro, it simply isnt strong enough. I've only used RadJay prop and
at a gram a week I was somewhere around 6500, I can't remember exact numbers as this was a year ago.
I however am not a fan of Vermodje orals. Their Tadalifil was weak and left me unimpressed. I also dislike that their orals all look the same.

 

[Almighty100%bodyfat]

LOL SLIGHTLY UNDERDOSED AT BEST. AT BEST!
For every 200mg you should expect a 1000ng increase on bloodwork. At least that is how it effects me.
Not more than that, pharma doesn't even do that to anyone. If you find gear that brings you 6x - 8x what you inject it is overdosed plain and simple.
Also, you are aware that RadJay is actually subsidiary of Vermodje right?
Even if your test is worth a fuck 10mg of aromasin ED for 750mg? You can't expect your bloods to be in range, hell they prescribe more at the TRT clinic for 200mg a week.
Aromasin is a weak AI which is why pro's only use it for cruising. It's useless passed a gram.
I can run 2g of testosterone but only with .5 letrozole ED. There is a reason pro's don't use aromasin at high doses bro, it simply isnt strong enough. I've only used RadJay prop and
at a gram a week I was somewhere around 6500, I can't remember exact numbers as this was a year ago.
I however am not a fan of Vermodje orals. Their Tadalifil was weak and left me unimpressed. I also dislike that their orals all look the same.

How are you going to say Aromasin is a weak AI? lol Aromasin is the BEST ai being a suicide inhibitor and generally people prefer aromasin because it's a suicidal inhibitor. Where as arimidex is not. Meaning that it(arimidex) binds reversibly to the aromatase enzyme through competitive inhibition. Exemestane(Aromasin) is an irreversible. It acts as a false substrate for the aromatase enzyme, and is processed to an intermediate that binds irreversibly to the active site of the enzyme causing its inactivation, an effect also known as "suicide inhibition.".
Aromasin is easier to dose throughout the cycle because it will not result in estro rebound when you come off - you start it at beginning of cycle and come off @ pct - simple as that.
With arimidex you will need to meticulously plan going on and coming off of it in order to avoid estro rebound and the sides associated with that.
Plus, Aromasin raises IGF levels and HDL as well.

 

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[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

I'm from hawaii! And it's not greetings, its aloha from Honolulu lol

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LOL !
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[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

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Mahalo .....

 

[THEANONYMOUS]

How are you going to say Aromasin is a weak AI? lol Aromasin is the BEST ai being a suicide inhibitor and generally people prefer aromasin because it's a suicidal inhibitor. Where as arimidex is not. Meaning that it(arimidex) binds reversibly to the aromatase enzyme through competitive inhibition. Exemestane(Aromasin) is an irreversible. It acts as a false substrate for the aromatase enzyme, and is processed to an intermediate that binds irreversibly to the active site of the enzyme causing its inactivation, an effect also known as "suicide inhibition.".
Aromasin is easier to dose throughout the cycle because it will not result in estro rebound when you come off - you start it at beginning of cycle and come off @ pct - simple as that.
With arimidex you will need to meticulously plan going on and coming off of it in order to avoid estro rebound and the sides associated with that.
Plus, Aromasin raises IGF levels and HDL as well.

Yea well serious bodybuilder doesn't "come off".
Your head is out of whack if you think Aromasin is also not have negative efffect on lipids. Read your Pfizer pamphlet buddy. It says right in the literature LOL.
Ask any competitor, there is reason to not use Aromasin on high doses of testosterone. If I'm on 2 grams i can take 25mg ED of Pfizer Aromasin and estro still high, each AI serve different purpose and effect everyone differently.
But I thought it was generally accepted that in competition is why you use Arimidex or Letro because you simply cannot look as dry with Aromasin.
I am not here to debate this I am just giving my input. I am not a newbie, I know the different between adex letro and aromasin.

 

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[9th Wonder]

Yea well serious bodybuilder doesn't "come off".
Your head is out of whack if you think Aromasin is also not have negative efffect on lipids. Read your Pfizer pamphlet buddy. It says right in the literature LOL.
Ask any competitor, there is reason to not use Aromasin on high doses of testosterone. If I'm on 2 grams i can take 25mg ED of Pfizer Aromasin and estro still high, each AI serve different purpose and effect everyone differently.
But I thought it was generally accepted that in competition is why you use Arimidex or Letro because you simply cannot look as dry with Aromasin.
I am not here to debate this I am just giving my input. I am not a newbie, I know the different between adex letro and aromasin.

I Most def am dryer running letro, not sure about the Adex though. Letro fucks my lipids up bad real quick so I don't use it unless...


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[mastermolnar]

He was sayin aromasin is the weakest of the 3 which, if you ever used them all.... not just read profiles on them, you'd know that Adex and letro are far more potent and effective than aromasin. I choose to run aromasin as well because it's easy but it's easy because it's weak... if that makes any sense. If I run dex or letro as my primary AI, I crash my e2 if I'm not careful.

You really have nothing to compare these results to.... other than info you've gathered from other people which is fine but that's just a basis to go off, not a factual statistic that discredits labs if your numbers fall short. Why not grab some pharma grade sust and aromasin and run that with the same protocol and see how your numbers look. Then maybe try pinning eod and see if those numbers improve. E3d injections are not the ideal protocol in my opinion.

I've stayed out of this thread or the ones you've posted on other forums because you already know everything and you're not willing to hear anything anyone has to say that goes against your claim.

This is just my PERSONAL experience from actual application of compounds. I'm not gonna do this back and forth where you run off and gather some info supporting your side and then run back and retort. Either take what people are saying and LEARN or let us all know now so we can all just leave you alone and ignore you from now on because your brazen arrogance here and at BOP just proves your inexperience and immaturity in this.

 

[bigunitny]

Labs came back test is legit as can be


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[Almighty100%bodyfat]

He was sayin aromasin is the weakest of the 3 which, if you ever used them all.... not just read profiles on them, you'd know that Adex and letro are far more potent and effective than aromasin. I choose to run aromasin as well because it's easy but it's easy because it's weak... if that makes any sense. If I run dex or letro as my primary AI, I crash my e2 if I'm not careful.

You really have nothing to compare these results to.... other than info you've gathered from other people which is fine but that's just a basis to go off, not a factual statistic that discredits labs if your numbers fall short. Why not grab some pharma grade sust and aromasin and run that with the same protocol and see how your numbers look. Then maybe try pinning eod and see if those numbers improve. E3d injections are not the ideal protocol in my opinion.

I've stayed out of this thread or the ones you've posted on other forums because you already know everything and you're not willing to hear anything anyone has to say that goes against your claim.

This is just my PERSONAL experience from actual application of compounds. I'm not gonna do this back and forth where you run off and gather some info supporting your side and then run back and retort. Either take what people are saying and LEARN or let us all know now so we can all just leave you alone and ignore you from now on because your brazen arrogance here and at BOP just proves your inexperience and immaturity in this.

So you've ran grams of test? Yet, you've never posted a picture of yourself? You better almost be PRO with all of your "knowledge and use". Without posting pics, anyone can say they've ran this that and everything and nobody can deny it. So, please continue to keep off of my posts. I don't give a fuck about your make believe stories with nothing to back it up.

 

[Almighty100%bodyfat]

Funny how the ones who have posted about their knowledge and experience and extreme use have never posted a pic. You guys are probably 185lbs of nothing. And with the facts of aromasin being the "weakest" is not true. It just has the shortest half life. And it is the less toxic AI and has less of an impact on IGF and cholesterol. Lol so obviously you guys should do your research elsewhere BESIDES forums.

 

[supermario]

Funny people do a cycle and have all the answers


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[Almighty100%bodyfat]

Funny people do a cycle and have all the answers


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Or, if you were around when I joined almost two years ago, you would have seen that I said I've been around bodybuilders (father, uncles, friends of family) my whole life and were open with experience. So I'm pretty sure I'm not saying I have all the answers from my first cycle.

 

[Almighty100%bodyfat]

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You're 38, 170lbs fat, and just started your first cycle in December. Lol Please shut the fuck up.

 

[mastermolnar]

So you've ran grams of test? Yet, you've never posted a picture of yourself? You better almost be PRO with all of your "knowledge and use". Without posting pics, anyone can say they've ran this that and everything and nobody can deny it. So, please continue to keep off of my posts. I don't give a fuck about your make believe stories with nothing to back it up.

I have posted pics. And my experience isn't of a pro, nor does it have to be. It's my personal experience which I'm saying you have nearly none of.

 

[Almighty100%bodyfat]

All I posted was the truth regardless of results. Funny how almost NONE of you have ran Roids24 anything but yet you still say my results are good when you haven't even had bloods to compare to. I've seen robo and bgs bloods on 500mg weekly above 6k. Regardless of "personal response" should there NEVER be that big of a difference. I posted to inform everyone of underdosed gear and you all criticize me??? Fucking pricks. Go ahead and stick with Roids24 and look like complete shit. That's the last time I help any of you that commented on here saying "I'm wrong for being against these bloods". Just like most of you are the same ones who were laughing at me when I knew something was wrong with Phurious' gear and now that he's gone, you come out and say he was selling fucked up shit for a while and plenty of people had issues. Yeah, good looking out for each other.

 

[SdBronco]

Doesn't matter who you are, if you speak out against a lab your are guilty until proven innocent.

 

[44YOGearHead]

Gents, this is gonna sound dumb as hell coming from me, but let's all just chill before this thread gets locked. I've had the chance to interact will all of you to some capacity, some more than others and I absorb all that is said and formulate my opinions and ideas based on things learned, heard and said. Everyone has a valid point on what I've read over the last two pages, but I gotta say if AA is inclined to express his opinion then that's his right and even though he and I have bumped heads in the past I gotta admit what the man may lack in practical application he makes up for with book smarts and that is to be commended as we all advise and allow ppl to make their own minds up. So differences will occur and are to be appreciated even though they may piss us off time to time.
I know MM is a fucking smart dude and is my bro as well, so when he says something it gets stored. We're all cocky to some extent fellas, myself included with all the 3rd person references and shit, so lets take this for what it is: AA's opinion of his results to which he provided documentation of his experience. I'm not saying roids24 is bunk, but in this instance if I were looking to make a purchase I'd be appreciative of this read. Here this should make everyone feel better... including my fat, moon pie faced ass (according to tazzocc and hell we even buried the hatchet on that... he now said I'm upgraded to "THICK"... asshole).

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