is to much red meat bad

[Bigirv84]

I wouldn't think your beef intake is excessive.. what are your stats and current goals though?

Grapes and crackers might cause a rapid insulin spike and issue with blood sugar - are they in there for a reason? (ie training time etc)

I have a weekly meal plan I do wanted to know if I should drop the red meat

7am 3 boil eggs
10am small bowl of red grapes
1pm crackers
4pm white chicken meat/ or turkey wings bake in the oven
7pm skirt steak/ or small ny stri steak
10pm protein shak

dude i saw your meal plan earlier and I don't think it is good for you. it needs to be refined. its too spaced out and sporatic, like 3 eggs at 7am and then 3 hrs later some grapes? it doesnt make sense, its like a puzzle with jagged pieces..

you arent eating that many cals so i would drop the protein shake, you can get enough protein from real foods and it will save you money.

the crackers have to go - that is just empty carbs and salt, No Bueno.

red meat is ok but i wouldnt make it a part of your daily diet, you are trying to shred man. Get Tuna and Tilapia and Chicken Breast and you are good to go.

to fix this diet we really need your stats, like age, height, weight, BF %, etc. then we can break down your macros and caloric intake and go from there..

No the grapes and crackers are there cause I work on cars so when there down time that's the quickest thing I can eat

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So is a low sodium low carb protein bar bro

Grapes and crackers are for children. You need more good foods. Plus dark meat turkey wings are no good. Boneless skinless breasts with low cal low sodium seasonings. Tuna or whitw fish like cod or talapia. The beef is ok but if cutting stay away from the fatty steaks. Do more sirloin or london broil. Less fats. Also boiled eggs in the am. No go on that should be eggwhites only. All the fat and cholesterol in the yolks. Which are on cheat days but not everyday.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

speaking of protein i consume 180 grams a day do i need to eat more protein or lesss

do you know your daily cals or macros?

well Im trying to keep it at 1800- 1900 a day to drop the weight and no I don't for the macros

Did u just pick that number or do you know your bmr and adjusted bmr?


PHURIOUS PHARMA

I got those numbers from herbalfe diet plan

Well if i were you i would figure out your adjusted bmr before setting a caloric intake. You could be holding yourself back. What is you age height and weight?


PHURIOUS PHARMA

5'11 303lbs

Age?


PHURIOUS PHARMA

31

 

[Bigirv84]

•If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
•If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
•If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
•If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
•If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

I found my bmr on this website 2669.51 now cause my job is very physical I did 2669 x 1.9 or should I use a smaller number

 

[PHURIOUS]

Ya do 2600 times 1.9 then subtract 500 cals thats what u want every day to cut.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

 

[stareatroy]

peanut butter that's should good

Okay, one thing to look out for is some of the peanut butters have a lot of extra sugar in them.
Try to find one that says just

Peanuts, salt.

or

Peanuts, Peanut oil, salt.

When I look at the jars of pb at the store, i look for one that has at least as many grams of protein as it does grams of carbs.

 

[PHURIOUS]

Thats why you buy natural peanut butter not store brands


PHURIOUS PHARMA

 

[Bigirv84]

Ya do 2600 times 1.9 then subtract 500 cals thats what u want every day to cut.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

thank you sir

 

[Bigirv84]

Ya do 2600 times 1.9 then subtract 500 cals thats what u want every day to cut.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

I got 4940 I took out the 500 I got 4440 is it even possible to eat that many cals in day

 

[RickRock]

Ya do 2600 times 1.9 then subtract 500 cals thats what u want every day to cut.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

I got 4940 I took out the 500 I got 4440 is it even possible to eat that many cals in day

Personally I would recommend going with a smaller number than that. I understand what the BMR calculator says and your job is very physical, but that number looks pretty high even for your bodyweight. I don't see you losing fat very well if at all at that caloric level. I'd say you need to be at least 1000 or more under that

 

[PHURIOUS]

Ya do 2600 times 1.9 then subtract 500 cals thats what u want every day to cut.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

I got 4940 I took out the 500 I got 4440 is it even possible to eat that many cals in day

Personally I would recommend going with a smaller number than that. I understand what the BMR calculator says and your job is very physical, but that number looks pretty high even for your bodyweight. I don't see you losing fat very well if at all at that caloric level. I'd say you need to be at least 1000 or more under that

Yes i agree 1000. Funny thing tho. I said 500 cause i just knew you would say thats too agressive. Ha


PHURIOUS PHARMA

 

[Bigirv84]

Ya do 2600 times 1.9 then subtract 500 cals thats what u want every day to cut.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

I got 4940 I took out the 500 I got 4440 is it even possible to eat that many cals in day

Personally I would recommend going with a smaller number than that. I understand what the BMR calculator says and your job is very physical, but that number looks pretty high even for your bodyweight. I don't see you losing fat very well if at all at that caloric level. I'd say you need to be at least 1000 or more under that

how bout 2500-3000

 

[PHURIOUS]

Lets do 3000. But i think somewhere more around 3400 will be better. If u drop your cals too low then you wont be losing fat you create muscle burn.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

 

[Bigirv84]

Lets do 3000. But i think somewhere more around 3400 will be better. If u drop your cals too low then you wont be losing fat you create muscle burn.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

damn I workout a serious meal plan than I don't even where t to start for 3400

 

[RickRock]

Lets do 3000. But i think somewhere more around 3400 will be better. If u drop your cals too low then you wont be losing fat you create muscle burn.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

I pretty much agree with you here buddy. I think 3400 is a good place to start. It can always be adjusted from there. If after a week or two he isn't maintaining about 1.5-2 lbs per week of fat loss it can be dropped a little more. Definitely don't want to drop too much too soon.

 

[PHURIOUS]

Lets do 3000. But i think somewhere more around 3400 will be better. If u drop your cals too low then you wont be losing fat you create muscle burn.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

damn I workout a serious meal plan than I don't even where t to start for 3400

Just slowly add some macros to eat one to hit the number. No biggy


PHURIOUS PHARMA

 

[PHURIOUS]

Lets do 3000. But i think somewhere more around 3400 will be better. If u drop your cals too low then you wont be losing fat you create muscle burn.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

I pretty much agree with you here buddy. I think 3400 is a good place to start. It can always be adjusted from there. If after a week or two he isn't maintaining about 1.5-2 lbs per week of fat loss it can be dropped a little more. Definitely don't want to drop too much too soon.

Yessir. Should be enough food. Even w the physical job and lift days If eaten at the right times. Maybe a little intermittent fasting thrown in. I been doing it and it definatly works.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

 

[SpikedEggnog]

Ya do 2600 times 1.9 then subtract 500 cals thats what u want every day to cut.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

I got 4940 I took out the 500 I got 4440 is it even possible to eat that many cals in day

the calculator doesn't factor in BF%. it doesnt know if youre 300 lbs solid or 300 lbs 30% BF. It gives you an estimate of what to eat to stay 300lbs aka Maintenance. For that reason I think close to 5k cals a day is absurd. that is more then I use to Bulk. i personally think 3k cals is a lot as well for someone your size. You are close to 30% BF at 300lbs, your LBM is 200lbs? MAYBE if your BF% is right. BUT your bones,organs, etc. All add weight to the scale. id guess you have under 200lbs of Solid Muscle on your body. I have a friend who is close to 300 lbs as well similar BF%, I like 2500 cals. But i dont know how much physical work you do a day either, that matters..

 

[PHURIOUS]

Thats actually not true. Bmr or basal metabolic rate. Is the amount of calories it takes to make your body function. Whether u r fat or fit. Your body uses the same calories at rest. Thats why you figure your BMR and then multiply by ypur activity level.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

 

[SpikedEggnog]

Thats actually not true. Bmr or basal metabolic rate. Is the amount of calories it takes to make your body function. Whether u r fat or fit. Your body uses the same calories at rest. Thats why you figure your BMR and then multiply by your activity level.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

I disagree. Your resting metabolic rate is absolutely affected by how much muscle you have. Someone that is 300lbs for instance used to be 200lbs before they gained all the fat, and at 200lbs your Caloric intake would be dramatically lower - there is no reason to increase caloric intake if you gained FAT, only muscle. I'm not saying he didn't gain any muscle but he is clearly high BF%. Someone 300lbs muscle will burn way more cals then someone 300lbs Fat. Also certain people metabolize faster then others naturally, or as you age your intake can lower yet you can still retain the same muscle mass, etc. There are many factors besides just height, weight, and age. Even what you are doing for that specific day can be factored in - I mean doing LEGS is way more calories then doing BICEPS.

And the calculations are nice estimations but they are in no way, shape or form 100% accurate. Yeah it's a good starting point for beginners but really no one knows your body better then you.

If this dude is like he says he is, 300lbs, 30% BF there is no way in heck he needs 4-5k cals a day, or even 3.5 k. i eat 3-3.5k cals a day and I have a fast metabolism, 225lbs 10% BF. there is no way this dude is burning 4k cals being sedentary aka BMR. if he WAS burning that much he wouldn't be 300lbs with high BF%.

I believe you said 3k for a starting place, and I agree with that much more then 4-5k provided he is actually exercising...

 

[PHURIOUS]

Thats actually not true. Bmr or basal metabolic rate. Is the amount of calories it takes to make your body function. Whether u r fat or fit. Your body uses the same calories at rest. Thats why you figure your BMR and then multiply by your activity level.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

I disagree. Your resting metabolic rate is absolutely affected by how much muscle you have. Someone that is 300lbs for instance used to be 200lbs before they gained all the fat, and at 200lbs your Caloric intake would be dramatically lower - there is no reason to increase caloric intake if you gained FAT, only muscle. I'm not saying he didn't gain any muscle but he is clearly high BF%. Someone 300lbs muscle will burn way more cals then someone 300lbs Fat. Also certain people metabolize faster then others naturally, or as you age your intake can lower yet you can still retain the same muscle mass, etc. There are many factors besides just height, weight, and age. Even what you are doing for that specific day can be factored in - I mean doing LEGS is way more calories then doing BICEPS.

And the calculations are nice estimations but they are in no way, shape or form 100% accurate. Yeah it's a good starting point for beginners but really no one knows your body better then you.

If this dude is like he says he is, 300lbs, 30% BF there is no way in heck he needs 4-5k cals a day, or even 3.5 k. i eat 3-3.5k cals a day and I have a fast metabolism, 225lbs 10% BF. there is no way this dude is burning 4k cals being sedentary aka BMR. if he WAS burning that much he wouldn't be 300lbs with high BF%.

I believe you said 3k for a starting place, and I agree with that much more then 4-5k provided he is actually exercising...

I somewhat agree. But if he was 200 then his bmr would change. But since he is 300. It takes just as much energy to move 300 pounds no mater if its high fat or not its still 300 pounds to move around. Now, as he cuts weight and drops bf will change also. So he will need to constantly reconfigure his bmr as he loses weighht


PHURIOUS PHARMA

 

[TX TERROR]

Re: RE: is to much red meat bad

I have a weekly meal plan I do wanted to know if I should drop the red meat

7am 3 boil eggs
10am small bowl of red grapes
1pm crackers
4pm white chicken meat/ or turkey wings bake in the oven
7pm skirt steak/ or small ny stri steak
10pm protein shak

Let's put it this way... in the am I take in 4 lean ground beef paties. Lunch and diner I take down at the very least 1lb of steak.

Red meat is a great protein source for many many reasons. I say keep it.

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