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Is it possible to cut with a low dose of deca?

If a compound will maintain muscle or increase muscle in calorie deficient environment then you can cut on it to say you can only bulk on it is naive to say that is like saying if you don't intake extremely high calories on deca it voids what the compound does


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Doea it void it? No. Does it make it under achieve what it is meant for? Definatly.




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How's it going Bros?
I have been recovering from a shoulder injury (most likely shoulder tendinitis or a minor tear) , although I have made some good progress, the pain is still there and will be there for about a year or so according to the advice I received. I have learned a lot from this injury and know how to work my way around it. I will also be seeing a physical therapist soon to get a official diagnosis and to further improve on my knowledge. I am planning on doing a recomp/cutting cycle of:

Week 1-12: Test enht @ 250mgs ew
Week 1-10: Deca @ 200-300 mgs ew
Week 1-10: Mast @ 400-800 mgs ew (will up dose ew depending on sides)

From my personal knowledge I believe you can cut with any compound if your diet and cardio are on point. Just wanted ur opinions on the water weight and sides as I have never used deca before

Here are my macros if your interested:
Carbs:150-200
Fats: 60
Protein: 200-250
Cals: 2700-3000 (undecided)

Cardio: 4-7 times ew

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The theory of buling and cutting is kind of obsolete now. In the old days they would do very heavy cycles of deca test and dbol and then eat tons of food. hen they would switch to the lighter types of gear such as low deca test and high primo,eq,winny etc.The problem was that these guys claimed they put on too much water,but the fact was they added lots of fat too.So they had to diet. Today we just try to go 500 calories over maintainence for growth and cut by 500 to get lean. No drastic yo yo's up and down
Many years ago I proved to myself that I could cut on anything. Even deca test dbol...providing calories are low.Then to rid any water you nly need to do zero carbs for 3 -4 days.
So if you want to cut on this cycle then yes you could.. but you will have to be in calorie deficit
 
Agreed therefore adding a low dose to a cutting cycle can only help achieve goal since sides with low dose deca are rare water retention on low dose will be minimum and can add winny in to offset any if needed


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U can cut on cocaine and meth too. Doesnt mean u shud


PHURIOUS
 
Yes, you can certainly cut while on deca. Of course certain compounds are more suited to run while cutting, but this whole bulking and cutting thing has gotten way out of context. You adjust your calories for your goals and your body will follow suit regardless of the compounds. Keeping water, estrogen and bloat under control, you can actually stay dry and get lean on deca.

Right now, I'm on Test, deca, and EQ and have been eating at a surplus for nearly two months. However, after New Years I will be adjusting my diet and cutting a bit with the same compounds. I will still be on high doses of test, and using deca at 500mg per week. And I can guarantee you I will shred the fuck up while on it too.
 
Yes, you can certainly cut while on deca. Of course certain compounds are more suited to run while cutting, but this whole bulking and cutting thing has gotten way out of context. You adjust your calories for your goals and your body will follow suit regardless of the compounds. Keeping water, estrogen and bloat under control, you can actually stay dry and get lean on deca.

Right now, I'm on Test, deca, and EQ and have been eating at a surplus for nearly two months. However, after New Years I will be adjusting my diet and cutting a bit with the same compounds. I will still be on high doses of test, and using deca at 500mg per week. And I can guarantee you I will shred the fuck up while on it too.

Absolutely you will shred bro.It kind of goes back to what we always say...on or off cycle...diet is key. Key to building,key to cutting,key to maintaining.When cutting all you are doing is restricting calories. Any aas will work.All that we are trying to acheive by using aas while dieting is too loose fat...not muscle.Since aas are muscle sparing then basically anything will work. Then if you are going to compete then you do not using any bloating aas, like dbl,test,adrol etc.. and that is why they switch from a heavy aas to the primos,winnys,vars,eq etc. Deca serves this purpose well too,but is very dose dependent
 
Idk. Me personally I side more with Phurious. Im kind of in the middle i guess. All though you can cut with deca that's totally possible and diet will permit that. I'd rather just dedicate my cycle to a truly cutting taylored cycle.

Really just depends where your looking to go man or what all you are looking to do. If your looking to be only a couple %bf and shredded to the bone I wouldn't go with it. It just depends how it treats you honestly. Where you hold water and how easy it is for you to deplete.

Like anadrol for example. That's suprisingly a great drug pre contest people don't really realise that but it comes down to how you as an individual react to it. For me it's awesome. Deca is the same way for me. Certainly not everyone is that way though.



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And really it comes down to comfort too. If your more comfortable running deca cause of your shoulder chances are you will be more succesfull. If your miserable cutting or in pain your gonna have a terrible time.

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Absolutely you will shred bro.It kind of goes back to what we always say...on or off cycle...diet is key. Key to building,key to cutting,key to maintaining.When cutting all you are doing is restricting calories. Any aas will work.All that we are trying to acheive by using aas while dieting is too loose fat...not muscle.Since aas are muscle sparing then basically anything will work. Then if you are going to compete then you do not using any bloating aas, like dbl,test,adrol etc.. and that is why they switch from a heavy aas to the primos,winnys,vars,eq etc. Deca serves this purpose well too,but is very dose dependent

Yep I agree completely man. I'll be showing a lot of people in my log just how you can shred up on deca and still get dry and lean.

My diet will do the talking.
 
Absolutely you will shred bro.It kind of goes back to what we always say...on or off cycle...diet is key. Key to building,key to cutting,key to maintaining.When cutting all you are doing is restricting calories. Any aas will work.All that we are trying to acheive by using aas while dieting is too loose fat...not muscle.Since aas are muscle sparing then basically anything will work. Then if you are going to compete then you do not using any bloating aas, like dbl,test,adrol etc.. and that is why they switch from a heavy aas to the primos,winnys,vars,eq etc. Deca serves this purpose well too,but is very dose dependent

this statement is so true "off cycle" I learned a huge lesson during off cycle bridge by not dieting right and not taking the GW and MK as directed. being back in town after 3 months the old lady wanted to eat out more than usual, and I fell right into the trap (damn women), I probably gained 7-10 lbs however my waist is still small haha. This next cycle though will be way better
 
This is far more than a simple yes or no question... Can you and should you are the questions to ask... you technically "can" attempt to cut with anything but your clearly going against the grain... deca is beautiful because its a bulking compound HOWEVER you can stay extremely dry, get sustainable and clean gains and hit an ultimate recomposition with it... in terms of flat out cutting, is it your best choice... of course not... its not meant to be a "cutter" as you would put winstrol, anavar, masteron, primo etc... these are meant for cutting but CAN be used in recomps and bulking cycles... anything can be utilized in any facet but its about what fits best... deca is not a cutter whatsoever but its far easier than say dbol, to attempt a strong recomp or low body fat gain type of thing... your not going to lose a bunch of weight with deca, even if you eat at a deficit but your clearly more likely to cut in a deficit with it... just remember, its far better to use it to gain a lot of size yet maintain or drop body fat... its not optimal if your flat out cutting however you COULD attempt it... just understand your diet and training have to be MORE than spot on in this scenario to accomplish this goal...
 
this statement is so true "off cycle" I learned a huge lesson during off cycle bridge by not dieting right and not taking the GW and MK as directed. being back in town after 3 months the old lady wanted to eat out more than usual, and I fell right into the trap (damn women), I probably gained 7-10 lbs however my waist is still small haha. This next cycle though will be way better
Lol Damm women.

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If I was going to cut I would use 200cyp/150 deca/800 primo. Or 200 cyp/1000eq. But that is just me
 
If I was going to cut I would use 200cyp/150 deca/800 primo. Or 200 cyp/1000eq. But that is just me
After looking at all the advice, I will probably be doing a recomp or a lean bulk. Can't wait to try eq tho as I have hear it helps with joint issues as well.

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definitely not just you brother because i would do the same...oh wait, im already going to be in january! LOL =)
same here brother. I have a feeling it's going to be a great year if i start it off with a needle in my ass. Lol

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After looking at all the advice, I will probably be doing a recomp or a lean bulk. Can't wait to try eq tho as I have hear it helps with joint issues as well.

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eq is the shit bro as long as you run it right... its a staple for me on every cycle... you MUST run it as drb indicated at a higher dose though to really see the results... eq stacks well with ANYTHING in ANY scenario... i would honestly run it no less than 800 mg week... do not forget to donate blood while running it
 
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