Is HCG absolutely necessary?

[brt966]

Hey guys, I'm in the process of researching correct protocol and I am considering doing my first cycle (10 weeks) of 350mg of Test-e only. My question is; Is it necessary to take HCG during the last 4 weeks of a 10 week Test-e cycle?

 

[Gymjunkie38]

No at that dose that short of a cycle I would recommend against HCG . HCG mimics LH stimulating the leydig cells too start working again and reduce atrophy however it has its one suppressive backfeed . That is not long enough too cause testicular atrophy making HCG not only not necessary but can actually delay recovery.

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[brt966]

No at that dose that short of a cycle I would recommend against HCG . HCG mimics LH stimulating the leydig cells too start working again and reduce atrophy however it has its one suppressive backfeed . That is not long enough too cause testicular atrophy making HCG not only not necessary but can actually delay recovery.

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Thanks for the info!

 

[Gymjunkie38]

Its real simple if you look at it this way . the pituitary see excessive androgens levels its ceases production by reducing LH out put . after long period of heavy suppression the testies atrophy from unuse . the blast of LH ( hcg) gets them working faster but at a price the pituitary now sees excessive LH and stays suppressed extending recovery its not buy much and getting the balls back in full swing out weigh that. After 10 weeks of 350 mg test you testies will still be ready too rock just waiting on the signal too go there is no atrophy in that short period so in the time on HCG you have only delayed recovery by extending shutdown uneccisarily .

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[DylanGemelli]

Its real simple if you look at it this way . the pituitary see excessive androgens levels its ceases production by reducing LH out put . after long period of heavy suppression the testies atrophy from unuse . the blast of LH ( hcg) gets them working faster but at a price the pituitary now sees excessive LH and stays suppressed extending recovery its not buy much and getting the balls back in full swing out weigh that. After 10 weeks of 350 mg test you testies will still be ready too rock just waiting on the signal too go there is no atrophy in that short period so in the time on HCG you have only delayed recovery by extending shutdown uneccisarily .

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why in the fuck do more people not get this? yes, i do recommend it in many cycles but its not necessary at all.. i see people and i know you do too brother, all the time, running it like the entire damn cycle.. its so counterproductive... people dont even understand how it really works... all they know is that it "helps get your balls bigger" which is so fucking stupid, i cannot even begin to discuss... thanks for such a insightful and detailed response...

 

[RickRock]

Its real simple if you look at it this way . the pituitary see excessive androgens levels its ceases production by reducing LH out put . after long period of heavy suppression the testies atrophy from unuse . the blast of LH ( hcg) gets them working faster but at a price the pituitary now sees excessive LH and stays suppressed extending recovery its not buy much and getting the balls back in full swing out weigh that. After 10 weeks of 350 mg test you testies will still be ready too rock just waiting on the signal too go there is no atrophy in that short period so in the time on HCG you have only delayed recovery by extending shutdown uneccisarily .

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Spot on brother. Great explanation right here