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Hypothetical cycle (discussion purposes)

Maximus PC

Maximus PC

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Out of curiosity, why do so many people do heavy cycles for a short time, as apposed to just staying on with a moderate dose?

For example
250-300mg test
200 ish tren A
10mg dbol

For 6 months to a year?

Granted for us older guys who have been placed on trt, 300 is around double the replacement, tren operates allegedly at 5x's the androgen replacement value of test, and dbol at 10mg is what the Olympic team used in the 70's and shattered records at the time. My understanding with a low dose dbol like this, in theory should be less toxic than a daily dose of tylenol or celebrex.


This is just an example but just curious as to why something like this isnt more prevalent on the internet, while out in the "real" world this was more common.


Merely a discussion
 
The test wouldn't be a huge issue...but tren even low dosed is gona wreck your lipids..cholesterol will be fucked..as well as Dbol gona strain Ur liver values and kidneys..the real problem tho is that at some point your miostatin will peak out and you won't grow any more no how...and finally if you make it that long feeling like Shit recovery will be almost impossible...your body can't take a moderate beating for 3 months and then fully recover..but imagine a drinking binge for 6 months...not so easy to come back from without repercussions
 
cmb5017 said:
The test wouldn't be a huge issue...but tren even low dosed is gona wreck your lipids..cholesterol will be fucked..as well as Dbol gona strain Ur liver values and kidneys..the real problem tho is that at some point your miostatin will peak out and you won't grow any more no how...and finally if you make it that long feeling like Shit recovery will be almost impossible...your body can't take a moderate beating for 3 months and then fully recover..but imagine a drinking binge for 6 months...not so easy to come back from without repercussions
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There is a guy (found on google search) at tnation that his lipids improved on elevated trt dose test, and tren for a year, backed with bloods. Part of what im thinking as far as recovery/feeling shitty is the higher doses for short periods of time beats the hell out of your CNS (especially tren) so thats part of why im wondering.

How big of a role dose myostatin play when youre not at genetic limit and taking gear?
 
Maximus PC said:
There is a guy (found on google search) at tnation that his lipids improved on elevated trt dose test, and tren for a year, backed with bloods. Part of what im thinking as far as recovery/feeling shitty is the higher doses for short periods of time beats the hell out of your CNS (especially tren) so thats part of why im wondering.

How big of a role dose myostatin play when youre not at genetic limit and taking gear?
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Honestly I don't believe that guys bloods..I find it impossible in theory...but for myostatin it's gonna raise quickly when your on gear...how fast or how much is gona be different from person to person..ask NY how tren worked out for him after a 7 month stretch...unless that guy knows a few tricks on reversing the side effects I just can't believe it..not tren
 
If this sort of thinking is out to lunch (again just discussing) someone like me Ive blasted in the past up to 1g in test and felt worse than on 300 ish. Ive read where some people are poor responders to growing with just test. In my personal experience, ive noticed a stronger response to anadrol, and dbol, than anything else. Drol was terrible as far as how i felt, but dbol on as litle as 15 mg's my strength and sense of well being goes off the charts. Test Ill get like an androgen rush for about a week, then feel pretty much the same, mentally sharper than without.

I may have just derailed my own topic lol
 
Yea..Well just guessing, you probably felt bad because your estrogen spiked? Test is the single most important thing a human needs to build muscle..some ppl may not respond as well but it's due to either diet/ training/genes or a combination thereof. Hard to say specifics without knowing an individual,their stats,diet n training routines ,doses ect
 
But going back to tren....it's a cosmetic drug more than anything..if your not competing there's really not much need for it imo. Especially 6 months worth..it's gona do what it does in 8 weeks after that it's worthless (to me) Dbol is supposed to be a "feel good" drug so it doesn't surprise me it made you feel good
 
cmb5017 said:
But going back to tren....it's a cosmetic drug more than anything..if your not competing there's really not much need for it imo. Especially 6 months worth..it's gona do what it does in 8 weeks after that it's worthless (to me) Dbol is supposed to be a "feel good" drug so it doesn't surprise me it made you feel good
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Feel good, and damn strong fast. Could be an e2 issue, i seem to convert at a ridiculous rate.

So in your opinion for trt guys is back to basics of blasting and cruising or would a rotation of drugs continually be as effective?
 
Blast and cruise. If u constantly stay on something other than your trt does then your on full cycle and to stay on full cycle year around will 've reckless on your health. I would definitely steer clear of orals as much as possible and stick with compounds that suit your goals.
 
41 yrs old 6'2 210 lbs 16% (via dexa) Goal is 220 in the legit 8-10 range (not internet 8-10 lol) For me I'll never compete but my preference is aesthetics, narrowest waist I can possibly hold, and biggest chest shoulders i can get. Right now Im a lil fluffy from bulking the last 3 months or so, so my waist is at 34", when im lean I can get it under 32". Chest sitting right at 46" shoulders 54", arms 16" (very stubborn)
 
Ok cool..for that goal I'd run a much cleaner more friendly cycle without the harsh tren...example:
Test 500mgs 1-16
Eq 800 mgs 1-16
Proviron 50mgs ed 1-16
Winny 50 mgs ed 10-16
With 20 mgs sarms gw half hr before work out ed.
 
Your health markers wont get trashed and you'll feel great with very minimum estrogen conversation/sides..I'd take aromasin 12.5 mgs eod to be safe . Only thing to watch for is rbc will rise....donate a pint of blood after cycle to fix that
 
If training n diet on point I'd bet you'd look a lot better than test/tren/dbol...I guarantee it
 
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