How's this cycle look?

[Gymjunkie38]

If you run tren the first 8 weeks dieting then switch too a weaker anabolic too try and gain size at the end this makes no sense wont work .run the NPP and test at the front use Dbol and dump the abombs leave the mast for the end its the only compound that you should dose higher dont bulk recomp eat clean get 1.5 grams of protien per pound and go a few hundred cals of your TDE keep fats low fill the gap with good carbs youll grow and lean out together then switch too tren and winny at the end pull back some of the carbs too create a deficit and watch your body transform daily

 

[Gymjunkie38]

I thought 6-8 weeks of tren use was considered the goal standard.

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Usually added on the end of a cycle too clean up gains and short cycles only work for guys blasting and cruising tren will shut you down hard at 6 weeks the gains just got started now time too go through you worst PCT ever good luck keeping anything

 

[21infantry]

Usually added on the end of a cycle too clean up gains and short cycles only work for guys blasting and cruising tren will shut you down hard at 6 weeks the gains just got started now time too go through you worst PCT ever good luck keeping anything

Lucky for me I'm cruising. Well anyways not sold on tren. Decca seems to be versatile and less sides. Throw in some winny at the end and you just replicated a tren cycle without tren sides.

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[TX TERROR]

Winny will fuck your cholesterol worse than anything with that much tren and the abombs you better be lean have a super clean diet and no pre exsisting heart problem that a bad combo . and not to beat a dead horse but 6 weeks of injectables is useless regardless of ester

For some. Generally anadrol will be worse accompanied by the high bp like nobodies business. A good majority of people who run drol really don't have a clue what they are doing.

I sure hate winny myself but bloods have always come back cleaner than that of a tren or drol run. The majority will probably say the same. But it really ties to how you diet.

Think about it. most people eat shity food thinking it's playing to thier advantage on those drugs. Winny many think as a cutter and generally clean thier shit up.


Honestly no matter how you look at it, cycle needs a lot of work. A lot....

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[TX TERROR]

I thought 6-8 weeks of tren use was considered the goal standard.

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Depends. I wouldn't do 6. I would shoot for the 8-12 range. It also depends how high you are actually going. I took the extra time to ramp down a bit just in case. But it's a harsh drug no matter how you look at it.

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[Gymjunkie38]

Yeah but deca needs too be 16 min cause that ester is rediculously long it dosnt start too get good till about 8 weeks then peaks around 16 then by week 20 bloodlevels are going down . i lagh when guys cut test and deca together 3 weeks later there like im still getting stronger but I cant get a hard on

 

[TX TERROR]

The other thing to think of is you mentioned you get lean quick. Well how lean is that. If your truly trying to get shredded we might be talking two different body images here. I still would advise you to take the extra time and dial it all in for a nice steady cycle with a clear and concise goal for you to achieve.

You wanna make sure no matter what you do you are set up for sucess. If there is one thing I can't say enough it's keep shit basic. People often way way over complicate this shit beyond what it needs to be. Stick to basics, basic goals and basic nutrition and you will find sucess.

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[TX TERROR]

Lucky for me I'm cruising. Well anyways not sold on tren. Decca seems to be versatile and less sides. Throw in some winny at the end and you just replicated a tren cycle without tren sides.

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Deca is legit man. And with what your doing you will like it I'm sure.

Tren is an over rated drug. It's got a lot of complications if used wrong and the benifits slowly become out weighed by the cons if you don't figure out where you are going wrong soon.

Keep rolling with the deca man you will feel a lot better.

Of all people I'm kind of against people using tren. I don't think it's worth it for a lot of folk. Some definitly it is but generally man I'd say star clear till you know you are ready and have a true purpose to use it.

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[RickRock]

I thought 6-8 weeks of tren use was considered the goal standard.

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No, not at all. If using Tren Enanthate, it's no different than running long esters of other compounds. You are going to want to run it long enough to get the full benefit. I always run Tren E about 12 weeks

 

[DylanGemelli]

Deca is legit man. And with what your doing you will like it I'm sure.

Tren is an over rated drug. It's got a lot of complications if used wrong and the benifits slowly become out weighed by the cons if you don't figure out where you are going wrong soon.

Keep rolling with the deca man you will feel a lot better.

Of all people I'm kind of against people using tren. I don't think it's worth it for a lot of folk. Some definitly it is but generally man I'd say star clear till you know you are ready and have a true purpose to use it.

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im going to have to definitely agree bro... deca is the shit... big time... not given the credit its due by some but many love it with good reason... tren can be overrated at times... it can do some miraculous things but at what cost... i much prefer to run it very low... 150-200 is plenty of both nandrolones... there's no need to go any higher because you can get a shitload from those doses AND avoid many of the sides... to me, thats the smartest move, basically a no brainer... nice post bro

 

[DylanGemelli]

For some. Generally anadrol will be worse accompanied by the high bp like nobodies business. A good majority of people who run drol really don't have a clue what they are doing.

I sure hate winny myself but bloods have always come back cleaner than that of a tren or drol run. The majority will probably say the same. But it really ties to how you diet.

Think about it. most people eat shity food thinking it's playing to thier advantage on those drugs. Winny many think as a cutter and generally clean thier shit up.


Honestly no matter how you look at it, cycle needs a lot of work. A lot....

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very much agreed on anadrol... i swear more and more people daily do not grasp the severity that comes along with use and have no clue about protection against high levels of toxicity... very good point... i do love winstrol and bloods are always cleaner and toxicity, while still definitely there, is much lower... of course its not a bulker but i always gain 10 lbs on it and i get EXTREME vascularity and muscle hardening... it just agrees so well with me...