So you've tested this theory out personally? I've decided to stick with Deca since I'm two pins into the cycle and I figured it would be silly to switch to over to Tren at this point.. I'll def try Tren next time though
How Many Compounds is Too Many
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So you've tested this theory out personally? I've decided to stick with Deca since I'm two pins into the cycle and I figured it would be silly to switch to over to Tren at this point.. I'll def try Tren next time though
Jake
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I have...more than once. You will feel better on deca, and no black piss,and other sides
What did you dose your Deca at during your cutting phases?
I've been cruising the past 8 weeks on 200 test and 200 deca. I've also been cutting and I have cut up very nicely. I'm pretty dry, hard, and vascular right now. The only other things I'm using are GW, S4, and MK2866.
Believe me, you don't need tren to cut at all.
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Believe me, you don't need tren to cut at all.
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Jake
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Agreed! The magic of 200/200! No sides mental well being, dry,lean vascular.
I totally agree with you. I was a member of another forum and all I ever got was piss poor recommendations, smart ass'd comments, or the broscience hall of fame type of comments you can only laugh at. Here the guys are all willing to help, I'm mid-forties and am learning all the time here. All the moderators and Dylan are legit bros.
Oh wow, that's really interesting. The less-is-more approach
21infantry
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Well most here kind of preach it, I believe Dylan, jake and Dr B believe in it. I'm a firm believer that more is less.
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Jake
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Its not so much that less is more...it is more like think about which are the best with each other and help each other. As an example the 200 test and 200 deca is a total of 400mgs aas. BUT if I used 400mg of just cyp it is not as effective. So the lesser dose of test here means less sides from test.The deca is low so no deca sides, so the combo is just a great way to go. This is how we put together a cycle.You don't just randomly throw shit together...you think it out. So if I wanted some tren benefit but not the tren sides,I would add it right on to the test/deca. I would go 200 test/200deca/150 trenE, or 150mg/week of trenA. So by using less mgs, you can build very effective stacks.
I had my days of big cycles, but as I learned what each aas does I was able to get better results putting things together with combinations of lower mgs.
21infantry
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Very well said, I agree 100%. I had a debate with somebody saying that you won't see anything from 200 to 300 mg of tren e. I'm like you understand 200 mg of tren is more powerful then 400 mg of test cyp. Just because your not seeing major sides doesent mean it isn't giving you the benefits
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JackSteel
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Yeah probably 75% of users believe that kind of BS. They just aren't experienced or educated.
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I agree with people on here with the more is less approach as long as it's someone's personal amount requirements to reach desired goals, one persons 200mg of something may have the effect of another person's 400mg and vice versa. I have also noticed that as people age and gain more experience they tend to use less amounts or at least are using much more sensible dosages. It's about finding the least amount of each compound that works best for that individual with exhibiting the least amount of side. Lots of trial and error,
as you continue to increase doses and run them too high, you run into many side effects, diminished gains and a lot of problems with a lot less in the results area... more IS NOT always better... sweet spots are there for a reason and when you exceed them thinking you know something different, you end up ruining your cycle, putting your health in jeopardy etc... i DESPISE recklessness and this thought process... what happens is people don't listen, they complete ruin themselves and THEN they want to come back begging for help after they were already advised NOT to act this way and it makes it very hard for me to feel bad or help after the fact as it does for most... im generally one that forgives quickly because of my faith in God being as strong as it is but sometimes i even get pushed on people being hard headed that dont want to listen
Others have done too well with the bulk of your questions. I will offer this... Deca at 500mg for me is not cutting. I get beastly big. By week 4 at a bulking dose (for me 600mg) I may gain as much as 18 to 22 pounds. Of course it is retention to a large degree but I don't "bloat" per se. For cutting I like Eq and primo with Test C. Just my thing. Eq at 800 and primo at 600 if I can get enough. I like long cycles and eq/primo are well suited for that.
Primo past 600 and I get little afternoon headaches so that is my sweet spot. I have grown to love the Sarms AAS stack and the one Dylan gave you less the Tren would be top of my list. I am too old to use tren at that dose. I am contemplating it at half that... 150 for the tail end of what is going to be a 20 week run for me. Depends on how the eq and primo work on my desired goals. I am heading to get peeled if I can and will make that decision with 6weeks to go in this cycle.
Take my bro science for what it is worth.
Primo past 600 and I get little afternoon headaches so that is my sweet spot. I have grown to love the Sarms AAS stack and the one Dylan gave you less the Tren would be top of my list. I am too old to use tren at that dose. I am contemplating it at half that... 150 for the tail end of what is going to be a 20 week run for me. Depends on how the eq and primo work on my desired goals. I am heading to get peeled if I can and will make that decision with 6weeks to go in this cycle.
Take my bro science for what it is worth.
It depends. For most it's a heavy dose. It depends on how estrogen sensitive you are. For me, it's just a moderate dose but I handle test better than just about anyone I know. Most people probably should make 500mg the highest they would go
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JackSteel
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You can drop any fat from anywhere without a fat burner. Nobody NEEDS fat burners. They're just an aid. However controlling cortisol and estrogen is crucial for getting rid of adipose in the abdomen.
Yes, you defnitely can. When it comes down to it, all you REALLY need is the right diet and the right training to go with it. Fat loss aids like GW and SR9009 obviously can defnitely help speed up the process, but the diet and the training is really what it all comes down to
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