Geting off test

[Enzo]

I have been on test for about 2 yrs 1ml twice a week . Just recently i have added deca .5 ml twice a week . When my cycle of 12 weeks of deca is finished . I was thinking about stoping test for a while should I ? What should i do for pct ? I was thinking of starting a sarm, which would help with fat loss and cutting . I am 50yrs old and relatively new to performance enhancing products.

 

[Gymjunkie38]

50 years old and pct after two years of suppression . Normaly if someone wanted too recover Id say make an attempt but at your age natural testosterone will be declining severely already anyhow its likely you will need TRT regardless .

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[maj79]

Are you on TRT? 2 years is a long time to be running 500mg of test a week (if it's 250 test) and you've added deca to it. I don't think this will be an easy time for you. At that age you'll have a tough time recovering your natural production.

You're definitely going to need extended full PCT.

This is a bit outta my league to really advise on so I'll let the pros chime in to help you out.



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[jp1957]

After 2 years, its highly unlikely to come back. Less than 10%. Even if you do, it will be extremely low, and will take quite some time to even get to that. You've got a rough ride ahead of you.

 

[RickRock]

I have been on test for about 2 yrs 1ml twice a week . Just recently i have added deca .5 ml twice a week . When my cycle of 12 weeks of deca is finished . I was thinking about stoping test for a while should I ? What should i do for pct ? I was thinking of starting a sarm, which would help with fat loss and cutting . I am 50yrs old and relatively new to performance enhancing products.

Why were you running 500mg of test for two years? Do you have any idea what type of long term problems you could be doing to yourself? At your age and as long as you've been on, it's going to be tough to come off and recover from that. I'm assuming you aren't in the care of a doctor for TRT. I'd be willing to bet you'll need to be on TRT at your age and what you've done to yourself

Here is what you need to run for a pct. Then get bloodwork done afterwards to see where you are at

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50//50/50/25/25/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[SaErNi]

The question is not IF you recover, but what will recovery be like for you and how long will it take. Studies show from multiple and international trials using various testosterone preparations recovery in men to be (6-24) months respectively :

The use of exogenous androgens can influence the HPG axis by similar mechanisms as endogenous testosterone by exerting negative feedback in a dose- and duration-dependent fashion, resulting in reductions in ITT, blunting of FSH production, and ultimately decrease or complete cessation of spermatogenesis.29 Data specifically describing the natural history of unassisted spermatogenesis recovery after long-term TRT are lacking, but such information can be extrapolated from the male contraceptive literature.16 Multiple and international trials using various testosterone preparations have been performed and demonstrate a median time to spermatogenesis suppression to <1 × 106 ml-1 sperm within 3.5 months. Alternatively, the same data demonstrate a median time to recovery of 20 × 106 ml-1 sperm ranging from 3 to 6 months, with probability estimates suggesting recovery in 67%, 90%, 96%, and 100% of men at 6, 12, 16, and 24 months, respectively, after discontinuation of testosterone exposure.13 These data also suggest that a longer exposure to exogenous testosterone, Asian ethnicity, and older age may result in a prolonged recovery time after treatment cessation.13,30,31,32 Importantly, one must consider that these data are carefully collected in men within the tightly controlled, clinical trial environment, and may not be generalizable. Certainly, men with a prior, multiple year history of TRT or AAS use may not expect the same rate of recovery.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4854084/

Love the dedication to help this guy! Major props dude!

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[Gymjunkie38]

Honestly most men over 50 need TRT regardless after recovery when it happens your test is probably gonna be on the 300s if your lucky that's nothing I would come of and go see the Dr be honest tell him you used steroid for a long time and no longer do but you can tell your just not recovering they will do blood work and prescribe trt. I never come off but I'm a competitive bodybuilder and have already accepted the fact that Ill be on the rest of my life its a trade off nothing comes without sacrifice that's my sacrifice good luck either way hope for you the best

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[DylanGemelli]

im always all about hitting a hardcore pct etc and generally quite confident you can bounce back but at your age, coupled with the fact that you have been this reckless with two years of continuous use, in my opinion. recovery is about as likely as getting struck by lightning...