Fucking Tren....

[buen]

Believe me bro, I'm still highly considering it. I love eq and the effects it brings. I use it in my winter blasts but have yet to run it during the summer with test, tren and mast. My issue is oil volume more than anything. Right now I'm already over 8ccs per week split into 3 injections.

Another thing is it depends on if I start my full contest prep in a little over a month I'm still on the fence about. I'd I do, my biggest change will be adding primo at 800mg per week up to show

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Be careful with your estrogen on primo...mast crushed my estrogen like you, primo seems to have a similar but milder effect on me
Re: primo
Precycle running 150mg test 200mg NPP no AI
Estradiol 24.4
2.5 weeks into cycle 400 test 200 Deca 200 ten 800 primo no AI
Estradiol 16.2

 

[RickRock]

In that case I'd go with the primo over EQ for contest prep, since it's not practical to be adding both and shooting that much oil. How long are you gonna blast the tren?

I probably will drop tren after 12 weeks, but bring in tren ace again if I do enter prep just the last 6 weeks which would be about a 6 week break in between

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[RickRock]

Primo is a bit overrated. I mean it's awesome but it didn't make contest prep any better or easier than anything else you could use.

Have you considered just
Test, npp, mast and something else like winny? Could toss in some proviron too if you ever felt like it.

I like primo a whole lot but honestly I doubt I'd use it in a contest prep again. For bodybuilding at least.

I've considered a lot of things, and honestly I've never ran primo yet so I base it on just what I hear about it. As of now nothing is set in stone yet for prep, because I still don't know if I'm doing a show or not. Kinda depends on where I'm at come august

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[RickRock]

Be careful with your estrogen on primo...mast crushed my estrogen like you, primo seems to have a similar but milder effect on me
Re: primo
Precycle running 150mg test 200mg NPP no AI
Estradiol 24.4
2.5 weeks into cycle 400 test 200 Deca 200 ten 800 primo no AI
Estradiol 16.2

That's really good to know. Thank you for that info brother

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[buen]

That's really good to know. Thank you for that info brother

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first time running primo..it surprised the shit out of me when I started having low E sides...despite running 400mg test without AI..my estradiol dropped
I've lowered the primo and upped the test a bit....I'll re-test in 2 weeks

 

[Almighty100%bodyfat]

Taper down the tren until sides wear off. Careful with aromasin as well. You probably don't need 12.5 eod. Try e3d or even just mon thur. A cycle like this isn't gonna bloat you or raise estro too much cause mast doesn't convert and your test is fairly low Just use your caber for the prolactin protection. I think you'd be fine once you leveled that out.

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[RickRock]

first time running primo..it surprised the shit out of me when I started having low E sides...despite running 400mg test without AI..my estradiol dropped
I've lowered the primo and upped the test a bit....I'll re-test in 2 weeks

That actually is surprising. Ever since I dropped the Aromasin, I feel great in every way, appetite is back, etc.....except libido still isn't there. It improved a little for like a day, but still needs to come up some. I still think my test to estrogen ratio is off so I may even increase test a bit more even though I'm already running 600mg just to get that libido up with some more estrogen conversion for the time being. I think 800mg Masteron is pretty damn strong on my E2 levels. I'm even considering dropping it down to 600mg

 

[PHURIOUS]

That actually is surprising. Ever since I dropped the Aromasin, I feel great in every way, appetite is back, etc.....except libido still isn't there. It improved a little for like a day, but still needs to come up some. I still think my test to estrogen ratio is off so I may even increase test a bit more even though I'm already running 600mg just to get that libido up with some more estrogen conversion for the time being. I think 800mg Masteron is pretty damn strong on my E2 levels. I'm even considering dropping it down to 600mg

Ya it could be. But ive been running it at 700mg a week for the past 4 or so and havnt had any issues. Altho it could be effecting u differently


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[JackSteel]

I don't think it's overdosed. I just think the 12.5mg EOD dose I was running with 800mg masteron totally crushed my E2 levels and was just too much.

Like I said, a little AI goes a long way with me

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That's most def what it was IMO. People like us are effected more by mast.


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[JackSteel]

That actually is surprising. Ever since I dropped the Aromasin, I feel great in every way, appetite is back, etc.....except libido still isn't there. It improved a little for like a day, but still needs to come up some. I still think my test to estrogen ratio is off so I may even increase test a bit more even though I'm already running 600mg just to get that libido up with some more estrogen conversion for the time being. I think 800mg Masteron is pretty damn strong on my E2 levels. I'm even considering dropping it down to 600mg

Yeah man 5-600 for me is more than enough.


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[RickRock]

Yeah man 5-600 for me is more than enough.


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I know in the past I've felt and looked awesome on that dose, and was horny as a jackrabbit, so I think I'll go with that starting next week with test at 750. I do really well with higher test anyways. My body loves high test

 

[MarkD]

I know in the past I've felt and looked awesome on that dose, and was horny as a jackrabbit, so I think I'll go with that starting next week with test at 750. I do really well with higher test anyways. My body loves high test

We're the same in this aspect, I am not highly estrogen sensitive and respond to AI's very nicely. Same thing with prolactin. I actually started running my Test higher a year or so ago at your advice, good look on that.

 

[Almighty100%bodyfat]

Aromasin is actually not needed as much as people think. It's rough in our body. Try doing a little less even 6.25mg e3d I bet you'll be just fine.

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[RickRock]

Aromasin is actually not needed as much as people think. It's rough in our body. Try doing a little less even 6.25mg e3d I bet you'll be just fine.

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Or how about not at all.....my estrogen is still low and I've been off of it for several days

 

[PHURIOUS]

Or how about not at all.....my estrogen is still low and I've been off of it for several days

It will start to creep up. Maybe 7.5mg every 5 days?


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[RickRock]

It will start to creep up. Maybe 7.5mg every 5 days?


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I will possibly add it back in at some point, but I won't be doing anything until libido gets back to normal. I'm seeing very very small improvements, but nowhere close to where it should be right now. Once that's normal I will probably control it in that zone with about 7.5mg or so every 3-4 days or around twice per week

 

[Almighty100%bodyfat]

Or how about not at all.....my estrogen is still low and I've been off of it for several days

I would do 6.25 E4D. Just to keep it steady.

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[RickRock]

I would do 6.25 E4D. Just to keep it steady.

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I'm sure I will do something like that once I get back closer to a good level to control it, but for now I don't want to do anything extra to lower it while I'm trying to get it to come back up some

 

[PHURIOUS]

I will possibly add it back in at some point, but I won't be doing anything until libido gets back to normal. I'm seeing very very small improvements, but nowhere close to where it should be right now. Once that's normal I will probably control it in that zone with about 7.5mg or so every 3-4 days or around twice per week

It definatly is curious that your libido hasnt come back also


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[Almighty100%bodyfat]

Libido takes a week or so AFTER levels get balanced out and his estro isn't too low. I do know that aromasin fucks with libido because it all correlates.

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