First Post! Cycle advice. s4, gw > Var,hcg?

[dc936]

My buddy referred me to try an Anavar/HCG cycle for my first aas cycle. He advised it is safest for beginner and great way to test the waters and HCG to keep htpa from shutdown and balls shrinking/dick not working. He also said sarms are "shit" and SERMs are too. But I have loved everything I have read and heard about from
S-4/Andarine in terms of my goal. To me the vision sides are more durable than the toxicity and suppression of Anavar. If I did take S-4, I just don't want my HTPA to shutdown then have to be stuck on TRT at 22. I doubt getting s-4 from umbrella or s4s would fuck me up. I think he just took shitty fake ostarine and it shut him down and thats why he hates sarms. No telling where he got that shit it was nearly 10 years ago. Anyways... So would a SERM as a pct prevent this from happening like? Raloxifene,Nolva,Clomid. My friend also told me these were shit and HCG is the best proper PCT protocol. Anyways Im clearly here to get an opinion and learn information from the sarms forum/family.

I have experience with SR-9009, and Cardarine. Used for running/performance, so I would consider stacking with Andarine or even adding toward end of PCT for a boost in energy.

Goal- Lose body fat over summer while building strength and lean muscle. I want to look fucking aesthetic . Hence why im weighing out Var and s4.
Weight- 150lbs, but would like those numbers to go up I just feel way to skinny fat right now.
Height- 6'1
Age-22

 

[DylanGemelli]

it sounds like your buddy is as clueless as they come... serms are shit? so then in his eyes, how would one recover? LOL not to mention, telling a 22 year old to use a steroid, also very ignorant to recommend, not to mention, hes telling you hcg will prevent shutdown when hcg itself is suppressive... smfh...

as far as s4 goes, its one of my favorites and stacking with sr9009 and/or gw501516 is one of the most commonly used cutting stacks there is...


for the best quality sarms check out https://umbrellalabs.is or https://researchchemicals.co/

1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Sr9009 (STENABOLIC) 30 mg day... 10 mg doses 4-5 hours apart
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 n2guard

Mini pct 13-16

Clomid 50/25/25/25 OR Nolva 40/20/20/20
Gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Mobsterthemod]

HCG does NOT stop shutdown.

 

[stevesmi]

it seems that you and your body need to educate yourselves on how the body works

there is no such thing as preventing shutdown do you realize if such a thing existed everybody would be doing it and nobody would be on trt for life in their 30s

when you use anabolic steroids they shut you down here and simple and there's no way to prevent that so you either open the can of worms or you don't

 

[CEO]

bros sarms stacks are easy, just run 2-3 for 12 weeks

 

[ROIDDERS]

GW is a must I like 20 milligrams a day for 12 weeks

 

[chesty]

make sure you using Umbrella they are legit

 

[Ulter]

looking forward to seeing your updates it looks like a damn good cycle

 

[Doyouevenlift]

Ha your friend sounds like your typical un educated gym bro lol. I wish I hadn’t listen to the gym bros back in my day. S4 a good choice depending on how you handle the vision sides. I absolutely loved S4 but couldn’t handle the vision sides so I don’t use it anymore.

If you have not tried Osterine before I would also recommend that one as it’s a great beginner SARM and has minimal suppression and great noticeable effects.

 

[Zyglamail]

sarms work well but you need to play around with what you use

 

[Shrine]

gw and sr are my 2 favorites, I always use them

 

[caligirl85]

very important you buy sarms from legit sources because there's so many out there faked

 

[zedhed]

i like s4 the best. I know the vision issues suck but it's a great sarm

 

[dc936]

i like s4 the best. I know the vision issues suck but it's a great sarm

Thank you, yeah great to hear feedback from a s4 guy.

 

[dc936]

very important you buy sarms from legit sources because there's so many out there faked

Going to look into umbrella labs! or https://researchchemicals.co/ which I have heard are the best sources!

 

[dc936]

Ha your friend sounds like your typical un educated gym bro lol. I wish I hadn’t listen to the gym bros back in my day. S4 a good choice depending on how you handle the vision sides. I absolutely loved S4 but couldn’t handle the vision sides so I don’t use it anymore.

If you have not tried Osterine before I would also recommend that one as it’s a great beginner SARM and has minimal suppression and great noticeable effects.

I thought about mk-2866, but weighing the sides from s4 and osta. I may try s4 first then and treat it like mike tyson punch.

 

[brianleyh]

it sounds like your buddy is as clueless as they come... serms are shit? so then in his eyes, how would one recover? LOL not to mention, telling a 22 year old to use a steroid, also very ignorant to recommend, not to mention, hes telling you hcg will prevent shutdown when hcg itself is suppressive... smfh...

as far as s4 goes, its one of my favorites and stacking with sr9009 and/or gw501516 is one of the most commonly used cutting stacks there is...


for the best quality sarms check out https://umbrellalabs.is or https://researchchemicals.co/

1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Sr9009 (STENABOLIC) 30 mg day... 10 mg doses 4-5 hours apart
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 n2guard

Mini pct 13-16

Clomid 50/25/25/25 OR Nolva 40/20/20/20
Gw-501516 20 mg day

I am new to this. I am starting a similar stack. GW morning, Osterine and MK 677, Is it true taking n2guard during the cycle or is it done after the cycle

 

[ballin2504]

Sounds like he doesn’t know what he’s talking about

 

[Noah Wixx]

Hcg would be pointless.

 

[DylanGemelli]

I am new to this. I am starting a similar stack. GW morning, Osterine and MK 677, Is it true taking n2guard during the cycle or is it done after the cycle

i would take it at both times as i stay on protectants year round, whether on or off cycle