First cycle

[Chris11]

Hello guys I am new to the forum and would really appreciate some advice for my first cycle. To start of with a little background I am 24 years old and just finished 4 years playing wide receiver at a D1AA school last year. I have no legitimate chance of playing higher (not fast enough) and want to move over to a career in fitness.

Stats
6'4
225 pounds
8-9 percent body fat

Because of the intense cardio and conditioning we had every day although I am not skinny I am extremely lean and am looking to bulk up now that it will not hinder performance. I currently have Dbol, testosterone sustanon 250, aromasin, clomid and nolvadex but do not want to start it until I can make 100 percent sure i'm running the right dosage. I have been watching the isarm youtube videos along with other research and feel that i have gotten a better understanding but still would love feedback. I do not have any reason to believe that I am gyno prone but would rather air on the 100 percent safe side.

was thinking
dbol- 30mg week 1-4
test sustanon- 250mg every 3 days
aromasin 12.5 eod
not really sure how to does nolva and clomid but was thinking 20/20/20 4 weeks after cycle along with aromasin

Any advice would be greatly appreciated thank you. Chris

 

[RickRock]

Hello guys I am new to the forum and would really appreciate some advice for my first cycle. To start of with a little background I am 24 years old and just finished 4 years playing wide receiver at a D1AA school last year. I have no legitimate chance of playing higher (not fast enough) and want to move over to a career in fitness.

Stats
6'4
225 pounds
8-9 percent body fat

Because of the intense cardio and conditioning we had every day although I am not skinny I am extremely lean and am looking to bulk up now that it will not hinder performance. I currently have Dbol, testosterone sustanon 250, aromasin, clomid and nolvadex but do not want to start it until I can make 100 percent sure i'm running the right dosage. I have been watching the isarm youtube videos along with other research and feel that i have gotten a better understanding but still would love feedback. I do not have any reason to believe that I am gyno prone but would rather air on the 100 percent safe side.

was thinking
dbol- 30mg week 1-4
test sustanon- 250mg every 3 days
aromasin 12.5 eod
not really sure how to does nolva and clomid but was thinking 20/20/20 4 weeks after cycle along with aromasin

Any advice would be greatly appreciated thank you. Chris

Hey bud, I think I have a great cycle plan for you. There are a couple things that need corrected here. For your first cycle you shouldn't use quite as much test. You can work your way up to the bigger doses over time after you see how your body responds to test and aromatizing compounds. With the Dbol in there that's a lot of estrogen conversion. First time I would use test only possibly with some sarms in there to help your gains. Leave out the orals for another cycle

Your pct also needs some work, and is not quite extensive enough.

Here is what I'd recommend. Get your SARMS and pct from www.sarmsx.com

1-12 Sustanon 400mg per week
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 LGD 10mg per day dosed in the am
1-12 RAD140 20mg per day dosed in the am

PCT starting two weeks after last injection

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[Chris11]

Alright that looks, online consensus seemed to be 500 but if it would be better I will drop it down for sure. Could I run the dbol at a really low mg maybe 10-20? Really trying to make sure I gain a good amount of weight. Calories will be over 4K a day as well.

 

[RickRock]

Alright that looks, online consensus seemed to be 500 but if it would be better I will drop it down for sure. Could I run the dbol at a really low mg maybe 10-20? Really trying to make sure I gain a good amount of weight. Calories will be over 4K a day as well.

Trust me man you don't need it for a first cycle and you shouldn't over complicate things. Test only is all you need to make tremendous gains, especially with some sarms thrown in. You don't want the extra variable from dbol and the estrogen or side effects it will add when you don't even know how you'll respond to test yet

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[Chris11]

Yea for sure you're right. As I said although I've done research I have no first hand experience. I'll take your word for it man thank you. I'll just save the dbol for a later date haha. Appreciate the help, this forum seems like a pretty cool place.

 

[EZ_E]

Perfect 1st post! Stats and an open mind, tremendous combo.

Bump Rick's set up. No need for d-bol......(really ever)

Welcome to the board.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Yea for sure you're right. As I said although I've done research I have no first hand experience. I'll take your word for it man thank you. I'll just save the dbol for a later date haha. Appreciate the help, this forum seems like a pretty cool place.

i already like you... you listen, you dont think you know everything, your mature for your age for sure and that's what this takes... understanding, maturity and responsible behavior... trust me, you do not need 500 mg of test and i dont care who it pisses off but thats a fucking meathead mentality... you CAN do it if you want but there's no need... 350 is perfect on a first cycle... also, while dbol will give you the size your after, it won't last bro... its not clean nor sustainable weight... the key is to get weight and size you have a far higher probability of keeping not to mention, just because you don't "think" your gyno prone, how would you even know? you dont understand the severity here... dbol converts to estrogen at a higher rate than any other steroid and test also converts so you now have two compounds converting... you absolutely need an ai and you should no matter what your running... i have a perfect starting cycle for you that fits your goals perfectly... you can get your sarms, aromasin and pct at www.sarmsx.com Here is a link for the entire pct stack... https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Chris11]

Hey guys just wanted to follow up. Ended up waiting to start the cycle till after I received the sarms Dylan recommended so I am currently on week 6. Been following his cycle layout 100 percent with the only difference being that I'm using test sustanon instead of cypionate (only reason being is because I already paid for it). Results have been great and honestly only side effects I can say is last week felt tired/lethargic which may have just been a virus I caught at the gym plus mild acne on my shoulders which I've never had before. All going great so far greatly appreciate all the help. Up 8 pounds as of now with body fat percentage still the same. Only question I have as of now is the importance of HCG... I've heard a lot of conflicting things on it and do not have any as of right now but have time if needed.

 

[RickRock]

Hey guys just wanted to follow up. Ended up waiting to start the cycle till after I received the sarms Dylan recommended so I am currently on week 6. Been following his cycle layout 100 percent with the only difference being that I'm using test sustanon instead of cypionate (only reason being is because I already paid for it). Results have been great and honestly only side effects I can say is last week felt tired/lethargic which may have just been a virus I caught at the gym plus mild acne on my shoulders which I've never had before. All going great so far greatly appreciate all the help. Up 8 pounds as of now with body fat percentage still the same. Only question I have as of now is the importance of HCG... I've heard a lot of conflicting things on it and do not have any as of right now but have time if needed.

Thank you for the update bro. I'm glad everyone is going well for you!

As for HCG, I wouldn't necessarily say it's required but it can make the transition into pct go much smoother. The proper way to run it is the last 3 or so weeks of the cycle and the time stars are clearing before pct starts. Dosage I'd recommend is 500iu twice per week.

It's completely your call and optional if you want to use it or not. I never used it myself, but it can possibly make recovery post cycle easier


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[DylanGemelli]

Hey guys just wanted to follow up. Ended up waiting to start the cycle till after I received the sarms Dylan recommended so I am currently on week 6. Been following his cycle layout 100 percent with the only difference being that I'm using test sustanon instead of cypionate (only reason being is because I already paid for it). Results have been great and honestly only side effects I can say is last week felt tired/lethargic which may have just been a virus I caught at the gym plus mild acne on my shoulders which I've never had before. All going great so far greatly appreciate all the help. Up 8 pounds as of now with body fat percentage still the same. Only question I have as of now is the importance of HCG... I've heard a lot of conflicting things on it and do not have any as of right now but have time if needed.

absolutely awesome brother... im so happy to hear about your results.. thats what its all about... hcg has its place but its a very small one... the last four weeks of your cycle at 1000 ius per week is PLENTY and that's how it does its job but any more than that is completely unnecessary.. you can get by without it but it makes the transition into pct smoother for your recovery but only if you run it properly

 

[Chris11]

Alright will definitely consider it! Gotta see if I can get my hands on quality stuff first. Will update towards the end of my cycle along with after post cycle for sure.

 

[Chris11]

Hey guys finished pct had blood work done came back all good. Ended up gaining 16 pounds total before pct and lost 2 during so up 14 still. Not gonna lie felt kinda shitty during pct (think it was the clomid) but feel great now with natura test going again. How long would you recommend before cycling again? And what would be your next thing to add in down the road.. EQ and test maybe? Would love some feedback thanks in advance.

 

[EZ_E]

14 net pounds is pretty great!

Time on = time off...there are a lot of potential choices, depends on where you want to go from here.

 

[Chris11]

Definitely was great, surprising how much 14 pounds makes a difference. Not really sure to be honest... had basically zero sides with test so really wouldnt mind running a test only cycle again. Only reason i mention EQ is from my understanding at least its pretty well tolerated by most so itd be a logical next step towards stronger substances down the road.