I haven't been active on this forum before. I just came across it from Dylan's Youtube videos. Maybe i'll start with 350 MG for the first 4 weeks and get my bloods done since everyone seems to be saying 500 mg is overkill and will just result in more estrogen on my 1st cycle..
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I haven't been active on this forum before. I just came across it from Dylan's Youtube videos. Maybe i'll start with 350 MG for the first 4 weeks and get my bloods done since everyone seems to be saying 500 mg is overkill and will just result in more estrogen on my 1st cycle..
Thanks dude, quick question...Could you explain what you mean by that a little more? "Because it will only really be 350 mg test anyway"
Definitely a solid foundation brother. You will be impressed what test alone will do. Once you get some cycle experience you will see how crazy shit can get lol enjoy the ride bro.
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???????????????..... 500mg IS 500mg
Something in your understanding of AAS is seriously flawed
bodean30
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What he means is that 500mg of testosterone enanthate/cypionate will only have 350mg of actual hormone. Enanthate has about 70mg hormone per 100mg with the remaining 30mg being the ester.
To the op: I ran 500mg Test-E for my first cycle and it was awesome. You may be better off running it a little lower at first if you're concerned about hair loss. 350mg/wk would be the perfect dose to assess your sensitivities. You've got a great layout going for you. It'll be killer for sure.
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There's a lot of broscience out there saying 500mg is a standard starting cycle when actual fact is it's pretty high to start with.
I think starting with 350mg is a good call. You can reassess everything after about 6 weeks and if you choose to go ahead and bump it assuming you have no estrogen sides or other side effects
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With dosing at 350mg, he'll be receiving about 225mg total hormone. If he can put such clean muscle on, his test levels naturally are probably pretty high 225mg would put him around 1100 or so. Is that even worth it to shut his AMAZING natural levels down, just to hover around where he most likely is already, and to pct and then recover just to get back to where he started?
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Lol Idk why you always try to lash out at my responses when I'm just giving the safest and most proper advice. Why would he shut himself down just to go into range where he already is!!!?? Something in YOUR AAS knowledge is obviously flawed.
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cbbram00
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Excellent point... Although I think his levels will probably be a little higher. Things that make you go hmmm....
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I seriously fucking love waking up and reading shit like this... if the screen would automatically refresh I'd skip the gym just to read the back and forths.
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cbbram00
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Tru dat bro...
Looking good OP! I'd say start with 350mg a week. It's your first cycle and you're going to be pretty responsive. First cycle is always the best, but I think 500 isn't necessary. I'm running a cycle now and my dose is 350.
You can do what you want, but the first time around you want to see how you respond and go from there.
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You can do what you want, but the first time around you want to see how you respond and go from there.
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Lol I'm not going to go back and forth with anyone. I just always get attacked for some reason when I make the most valid statement on the post to help guide the guy to a safer route of using gear.
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bodean30
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Lol....you advised him to run 500mg cuz it's really is 350mg
350mg test e puts me at 3500ng/dL
Dylan just posted his bloods running 350mg test c 2490ng/dL....so I don't know what you think you are basing your OPINION on
Your "LOGIC" is flawed thru and thru
350mg test e is a responsible dose and will yield good gains
It's laughable you state that 350mg of test e will shut someone down for little gain only raising serum testosterone to the same level as high normal ( because it contains only 245mg of actual testosterone)(even your math is incorrect ..
350x.70=245 not 225)
Your understanding of Testosterone is absolutely wrong
Serum testosterone levels usually run 7 to 10 times injected mg of test e (NOT actual testosterone it contains)
350mg test e puts me at 3500ng/dL
Dylan just posted his bloods running 350mg test c 2490ng/dL....so I don't know what you think you are basing your OPINION on
Your "LOGIC" is flawed thru and thru
350mg test e is a responsible dose and will yield good gains
It's laughable you state that 350mg of test e will shut someone down for little gain only raising serum testosterone to the same level as high normal ( because it contains only 245mg of actual testosterone)(even your math is incorrect ..
350x.70=245 not 225)
Your understanding of Testosterone is absolutely wrong
Serum testosterone levels usually run 7 to 10 times injected mg of test e (NOT actual testosterone it contains)
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