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First cycle concerns and questions

Wdf0307

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I'm crossing over to the dark side. I'll be starting my first cycle of deca and test in a couple weeks. I'm pretty honed in on my dosages but am still uncertain about on cycle therapy and pst. I really want to stay safe and definitely don't want any gyno. Any info or tips are appreciated. Thanks...

I'm 35 190 and been in the gym about 15 years if that helps out.
 
Im sure the guys will be curious on your BF% and height. 190lbs at 5'5" is way different than 190 at 6'4".

Also, what doses are you wanting to run (along with AI dosages)? Definitely will affect safety and E2 conversion.

Aside from that, I would suggest test only for first cycle. See how your body responds, how your E2 reacts, side effects, etc. If you have any issues you will know exactly what is causing it plus you wont have to worry about prolactin sides associated with deca and meds needed to control this. Gyno from estrogen is not good, combine that with some milky tits from prolactin.......no bueno.

By the way, keep the deca for later. It will come time for it soon enough.
 
190, 6ft, and about 9%bf. Well, I was 9% before i got tendonitis in my shoulder about 6weeks ago. Had to cut back a bit so I'm sure that's gone up.

Was thinking .5 deca and .5 test twice a week. I'm unsure on the AI dosage but I do have it ready to go. Help there is appreciated too. I'm new to this so I'm still researching and listing to a few trusted friends who've been doing this for a whole.

If I hold off on the deca, what's a good test dose to run? Not trying to throw on crazy weight, maybe 8/10 lbs.
 
1) .5 deca and .5 test doesnt tell us enough. .5mL of 100mg/L is obviously way different than the same volume of 300mg/mL. Here guys will tell you cycles in mg/week so you need to know concentration. Im assuming you have test cyp or enanth.

2) I would guess most guys here would say that you should start out at 250-350mg/wk of Test. No need to go higher. You can learn a ton about how AAS work for you should make great gains assuming your diet and training is on point. Plus you keep sides to a minimum. Nobody can say what you will gain, but personally I think 8-10 lbs is a very reasonable goal.

3) AAS obviously help you recover faster so you would think it would make sense to start while you are hurting so you will recover. Others may disagree, but if it were me, I would make sure I was fully recovered first. You are about to push your body harder than you ever have. Muscles will grow but the tendons seem to lag behind and it would suck to know that you arent fully taking advantage of a cycle (or you have to cut it short) because of tendonitis. Im sure that others will chime in and perhaps they will recommend a SARMs healing stack to get you ready.

4) I would strongly consider doing precycle bloodwork so you have a baseline of where you are. They are cheap through a place like http://www.privatemdlabs.com/...........around $60 after discount code to get your total test, E2, LH, FSH, and a few others.

With that, Ill leave it to some others to chime in with some full cycle layouts, PCT, and/or questions, info, etc.
 
I'm crossing over to the dark side. I'll be starting my first cycle of deca and test in a couple weeks. I'm pretty honed in on my dosages but am still uncertain about on cycle therapy and pst. I really want to stay safe and definitely don't want any gyno. Any info or tips are appreciated. Thanks...

I'm 35 190 and been in the gym about 15 years if that helps out.

1. bro, PLEASE don't call it the "dark side" that comment only pisses off everyone around you and it just sounds absurd... there's nothing "dark" about it so please don't say that garbage

2. you NEVER run deca on a first cycle so that needs to be out

3. you dont even need steroids for 8-10 lbs.. what exactly is your goal here?

4. please list things in MG not ML... noone can help you if you list it like that... you know how many concentrations there are for different compounds... you cant get any precise help if you list things like that...
 
Ok, so if I run just the test, what's a good dosage to start with? 8-10 lbs is just what I had in mind realistically, but am good with more. What about Anavar with the test for the first cycle? What do I need to take with it to stay safe and no get bitch tits? New here, bro. All advise is appreciated
 
no anavar on a first cycle either, test only is gonna be the consensus here for your first cycle just to see how you react your estro etc. you don't want bitch tits u should listen and only run test only for 12 weeks and maybe some sarms to help heal your shoulder
 
What sarms should I take if I decide to? Also, is 200mg a week a good starting point in the test?
 
What sarms should I take if I decide to? Also, is 200mg a week a good starting point in the test?


forget the anavar bro... its just a waste of time and money and you dont need to add any methylation for the little you get from it.. i have the perfect layout for you with test and sarms... this is an excellent first cycle and will exceed your goals and expectations with little side effects to endure and a quicker recovery... this will be a far better experience for you... all sarms , ancillaries and pct can be found at www.sarmsx.com

here is the layout

1-12 test cyp 250-350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-14 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
There you go brother. That is a very complete cycle.

Again, consider precycle bloodwork. $60 (don't even need to go thru your doctor) is a small price to pay in my opinion.
 
I think Dylan gave you the best protocol to follow for your goals. You can't go wrong following that. You certainly don't want to use Deca your first cycle. Test along with some sarms is more than enough, and I have no doubt you'll love the results you get from it


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