EQ and appetite

[Rhynoplanet]

Doesn't matter how low your natty levels were. That's way too much for trt lol I mean, let me make sure I have it straight. You're bloods come in normal range when taking 340mg of cyp a week after 4-8 weeks of being on? If that's the case then is your estrogen or SHBG too high? That doesn't make sense to me. Not saying I know everything I'm just saying I don't get it.


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You are right, it doesn't matter what my natural levels were, it matters what my levels are once I am taking the prescribed test. Estradiol came in at 98 on that same bloodwork (normal 70-225), by the way that was after three months of prescribed test at 340 mg a week. Why would that dose be too high if my test levels come back in the normal range? THat makes no sense, you are basing it just on the given dose and not on the outcome of the dose. My doctor, who is a testosterone men's health specialist and runs a clinic for just this, says he has one client that requires test 500 mg a week to get him in the normal range. He says everyone reacts differently to the medication and to put it simply some people require much more then others to get to the same blood levels of test. He also has me on arimidex 1 mg twice a week to maintain good estrogen levels. He is extremely knowledgeable in this area and has been doing this for a long time and this is all he does. All other bloodwork comes back normal

 

[DylanGemelli]

i run eq no less than 800 mg per week and i have never once had any appetite increase whatsoever... thats a very hit and miss side effect and its more rare than common... more like out of 100% of users, 25-30% may have that problem where most will not

 

[Rhynoplanet]

i run eq no less than 800 mg per week and i have never once had any appetite increase whatsoever... thats a very hit and miss side effect and its more rare than common... more like out of 100% of users, 25-30% may have that problem where most will not

Sounds good, thanks for the info. I think I have decided to start at 600 mg a week of EQ and see how it goes.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Sounds good, thanks for the info. I think I have decided to start at 600 mg a week of EQ and see how it goes.

yes, you can start there and assess... eq takes a good 7-8 weeks to really kick in... 800 will be the sweet spot but starting at 600 is just fine... i would HIGHLY recommend running GW-501516 along with eq... they go together like peanut butter and jelly and you would be missing out big time by not stacking them...

 

[9th Wonder]

i run eq no less than 800 mg per week and i have never once had any appetite increase whatsoever... thats a very hit and miss side effect and its more rare than common... more like out of 100% of users, 25-30% may have that problem where most will not

That holds true for me as well.. I've traditionally ran it at 800mgs a week with no appetite issues. The only negative for me is the increased RBC. So I'm going to try and run it at 400.

 

[Jake]

Damn good answer man. No doubt everyone is different and require different dosages. 200mg per week puts me at 900 range but if 340 puts you at 617 then it is what it is. Your right about the depression going away, same with me and a lot of others . It is life changing for sure . That's nice that in Canada you have a progressive doctor who can interpret the numbers and goes from there. Docs here are too scared to do that and the protocol sucks and leaves most men having to do their own research to find the sweet spot. If you lived in the USA it might have taken you years to find a doc to prescribe that amount and you would have suffered unless you took matters in your own hands. Good stuff

Test is best,test is king. Even worked with my mom going thru menopause. She still takes 20mg sus/week and less than half of her prescribed estrogen. All of the PMS type symptoms went away

 

[Rhynoplanet]

Damn good answer man. No doubt everyone is different and require different dosages. 200mg per week puts me at 900 range but if 340 puts you at 617 then it is what it is. Your right about the depression going away, same with me and a lot of others . It is life changing for sure . That's nice that in Canada you have a progressive doctor who can interpret the numbers and goes from there. Docs here are too scared to do that and the protocol sucks and leaves most men having to do their own research to find the sweet spot. If you lived in the USA it might have taken you years to find a doc to prescribe that amount and you would have suffered unless you took matters in your own hands. Good stuff

Yes I completely agree. I had one doctor before him that gave me 150 mg a week and only brought my levels to 10 (normal 21-30) and wouldnt raise it any higher. I then found this doctor who specializes in men's health and he has been awesome. I am so happy and lucky.

 

[SaladTossingBitch]

I ran test400/eq800 for 20 weeks and my hunger stayed the same. No sides at all.

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[mikeal1977]

love me some PB&J eq and gw work great

yes, you can start there and assess... eq takes a good 7-8 weeks to really kick in... 800 will be the sweet spot but starting at 600 is just fine... i would HIGHLY recommend running GW-501516 along with eq... they go together like peanut butter and jelly and you would be missing out big time by not stacking them...

 

[SDKing]

I've only ran eq once at 900mg a week. I got anxiety, high blood pressure, and crazy high appetite. Most people I talked to said anything less than 800mg for 14 weeks was a waste. After week 12 I had no choice but to drop it too 600mg a week. Cycle was 20 weeks total. Blood pressure and anxiety was normal at 600mg, but was still hungry as fuck. By the end of the cycle I was not impressed with the results. 500mg test and 400 mg Deca gave me leaner gains, better recovery, no anxiety and much more size and strength. Although I really loved the muscular endurance EQ brings (did not give much else). I feel like test and eq is not enough, if I ever ran it again it would be a lower dose 400-600 And with a 3rd compound. Its expensive for the little results it brings in comparison to other drugs with lesser side effects. It also lowered my performance in the bedroom by small but noticeable amount (probably because of blood pressure) That's just me though.

 

[Testdude63]

I've only ran eq once at 900mg a week. I got anxiety, high blood pressure, and crazy high appetite. Most people I talked to said anything less than 800mg for 14 weeks was a waste. After week 12 I had no choice but to drop it too 600mg a week. Cycle was 20 weeks total. Blood pressure and anxiety was normal at 600mg, but was still hungry as fuck. By the end of the cycle I was not impressed with the results. 500mg test and 400 mg Deca gave me leaner gains, better recovery, no anxiety and much more size and strength. Although I really loved the muscular endurance EQ brings (did not give much else). I feel like test and eq is not enough, if I ever ran it again it would be a lower dose 400-600 And with a 3rd compound. Its expensive for the little results it brings in comparison to other drugs with lesser side effects. It also lowered my performance in the bedroom by small but noticeable amount (probably because of blood pressure) That's just me though.

The anxiety is brought on by high blood pressure/rapid increase in RBC's. Did you give blood during this cycle? That will typically alleviate the symptoms you described.

 

[JackSteel]

You are right, it doesn't matter what my natural levels were, it matters what my levels are once I am taking the prescribed test. Estradiol came in at 98 on that same bloodwork (normal 70-225), by the way that was after three months of prescribed test at 340 mg a week. Why would that dose be too high if my test levels come back in the normal range? THat makes no sense, you are basing it just on the given dose and not on the outcome of the dose. My doctor, who is a testosterone men's health specialist and runs a clinic for just this, says he has one client that requires test 500 mg a week to get him in the normal range. He says everyone reacts differently to the medication and to put it simply some people require much more then others to get to the same blood levels of test. He also has me on arimidex 1 mg twice a week to maintain good estrogen levels. He is extremely knowledgeable in this area and has been doing this for a long time and this is all he does. All other bloodwork comes back normal

So what is it that causes one guy to need so much to have normal levels when another guy can take 500 and have his levels sky high? I'm not saying he's wrong I'm just questioning what process in the body would keep the t estimate tone from causing the same levels. I thought maybe it was being converted to estrogen at a higher rate or something. I'm not a Doctor as I said earlier I'm just trying to figure out why that would be so.


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[JackSteel]

So what is it that causes one guy to need so much to have normal levels when another guy can take 500 and have his levels sky high? I'm not saying he's wrong I'm just questioning what process in the body would keep the t estimate tone from causing the same levels. I thought maybe it was being converted to estrogen at a higher rate or something. I'm not a Doctor as I said earlier I'm just trying to figure out why that would be so. Are you a really big guy? Body size would make sense to me but if not I'm just at a loss for why one would need so much. 340mg for me would be like a cycle lol


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[Rhynoplanet]

So what is it that causes one guy to need so much to have normal levels when another guy can take 500 and have his levels sky high? I'm not saying he's wrong I'm just questioning what process in the body would keep the t estimate tone from causing the same levels. I thought maybe it was being converted to estrogen at a higher rate or something. I'm not a Doctor as I said earlier I'm just trying to figure out why that would be so.


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My doctor didn't explain it in scientific terms. He just told me that some people simply require higher doses and that they don't absorb or use the testosterone as efficiently. It doesn't mean that more gets converted to estrogen it simply isn't used or absorbed, if that makes sense. He explained it to me in simple terms.


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[Rhynoplanet]

And he can't be wrong since he does my bloodwork and sees what my levels are and he is prescribing the dose.


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