So I recently ordered s4 and gw501516 from nootropicsource.com. In the past I developed gyno from a cycle of test so I think I am susceptible to it. It's 8 days in and I have been using 20mg of gw and 40mg of s4 ed. 5 on two off of the s4. I have posted elsewhere and everyone is saying it's impossible to develop gyno from s4 or gw. However I have read in a few places it's possible if you are susceptible. Here is one place I read that http://www.evolutionary.org/the-complete-sarms-support-stack an article written by Dylan gemmeli who I believe mods here. Dylan if you see this I would really appreciate some feedback. Tho I have read it's possible everyone on the forums at evolutionary is saying that I was most surely sold a prohormone in place of the s4 or gw and That is what is causing the gyno. So I emailed nootropicsource.com and I almost instantly got responses from them. Here is what they say.
Hello Mr. Ryan,
The products we have synthesized for us are exactly as we have put them up as.
All of our solutions are a suspension of the raw powder + peg300/600 (depending on the molecular mass of the compound) + ethyl alcohol + distilled (varying proportions base upon the amount of powder per ml).
All we have to post are HPLC, we do not have lab results of it being used in human trials because we sell them with the intention of them not being used for human consumption and research purposes only.
As far as side effects associated with such compounds we have compounds that are considered to be anti-estrogen or compounds considered to be "post cycle therapy" by many available as well... all of which the intention
is for studying and research purposes.
Another thing I wanted to share with you is that these compounds that we source or have synthesized in one of our 2 labs worldwide are also sent out from us to other nootropics and peptide webistes... sites that do a lot
more volume than we do but source from us.
As far as quality of the compound goes you can be rest assured that we have the best quality compounds available anywhere online, especially considering we have been supplying major companies for over 6 years now.
let me know how we can help you further
sincerely,
We have non-disclosure agreements with every company we supply to.
What I can tell you is that they are 4 of the most successful and well known peptide companies, and recently we have started to supply to 2 of the bigger nootropics companies (since we are involved in this space now as well).
There is no possible way that you were sent a "pro-hormone" rather than s4.
We HPLC each batch once at conception of it as well as independently if it is shipped from our outside laboratory for compounds we get in large batches.
Which s-4 and GW are both compounds we get in 5kg batches therefore they are HPLC tested twice for checks and balances purposes.
As far as what "other experts" say I don't know what to tell you.
Some people say God exists, some people say God doesnt.
In the 1600s some people thought that the earth was flat...
Our company and our products are based upon science, not rumor.
Please don't take offense to that and I understand your concerns but every biological system is different and reacts differently to different things.
If our organization has HPLC tested our 5kg batch of s-4 at the conception of it, then when I received it at our warehouse from our own laboratory elseswhere and took a 1g sample and sent it to our 3rd party HPLC tester and it came back with the same results then I am certain that it is s-4.
Sincerely,
So other than the gyno I have seen good results so far, definite increase in recovery time and endurance. Haven't noticed any other side effects I was only up to 40mgs of the s4 so no yellow tint or anything. Everyone is telling me that I've been ripped off with a weak prohormone and telling me I should stop and get something different. Does anyone know anything about nootropic? I know it's just the guys word but his explanations sound pretty legit and I have a fiend who had good results from their gw.
Any feedback is appreciated. Unfortunately from what I read I would only need a light pct so I didn't have any ai on hand but I have letro on the way.
Thanks in advance
R00t
Hello Mr. Ryan,
The products we have synthesized for us are exactly as we have put them up as.
All of our solutions are a suspension of the raw powder + peg300/600 (depending on the molecular mass of the compound) + ethyl alcohol + distilled (varying proportions base upon the amount of powder per ml).
All we have to post are HPLC, we do not have lab results of it being used in human trials because we sell them with the intention of them not being used for human consumption and research purposes only.
As far as side effects associated with such compounds we have compounds that are considered to be anti-estrogen or compounds considered to be "post cycle therapy" by many available as well... all of which the intention
is for studying and research purposes.
Another thing I wanted to share with you is that these compounds that we source or have synthesized in one of our 2 labs worldwide are also sent out from us to other nootropics and peptide webistes... sites that do a lot
more volume than we do but source from us.
As far as quality of the compound goes you can be rest assured that we have the best quality compounds available anywhere online, especially considering we have been supplying major companies for over 6 years now.
let me know how we can help you further
sincerely,
We have non-disclosure agreements with every company we supply to.
What I can tell you is that they are 4 of the most successful and well known peptide companies, and recently we have started to supply to 2 of the bigger nootropics companies (since we are involved in this space now as well).
There is no possible way that you were sent a "pro-hormone" rather than s4.
We HPLC each batch once at conception of it as well as independently if it is shipped from our outside laboratory for compounds we get in large batches.
Which s-4 and GW are both compounds we get in 5kg batches therefore they are HPLC tested twice for checks and balances purposes.
As far as what "other experts" say I don't know what to tell you.
Some people say God exists, some people say God doesnt.
In the 1600s some people thought that the earth was flat...
Our company and our products are based upon science, not rumor.
Please don't take offense to that and I understand your concerns but every biological system is different and reacts differently to different things.
If our organization has HPLC tested our 5kg batch of s-4 at the conception of it, then when I received it at our warehouse from our own laboratory elseswhere and took a 1g sample and sent it to our 3rd party HPLC tester and it came back with the same results then I am certain that it is s-4.
Sincerely,
So other than the gyno I have seen good results so far, definite increase in recovery time and endurance. Haven't noticed any other side effects I was only up to 40mgs of the s4 so no yellow tint or anything. Everyone is telling me that I've been ripped off with a weak prohormone and telling me I should stop and get something different. Does anyone know anything about nootropic? I know it's just the guys word but his explanations sound pretty legit and I have a fiend who had good results from their gw.
Any feedback is appreciated. Unfortunately from what I read I would only need a light pct so I didn't have any ai on hand but I have letro on the way.
Thanks in advance
R00t
