Dbol + test cypionate cycle

[mrolson]

Hi guys!
I am preparing for my first stacking cycle. Its going to be LOW dosage and BY THE BOOKS. I am not in a hurry to fuck myself up completely and I want to be as safe as possible while doing this. I have previously been on some test only cycles, nothing fancy 500mg e5d, without noticing any sides.

About me: 34 years old, 5"11 210 lbs, 15-17% bodyfat.
Important: I am on TRT (Nebido).

Cycle:
week 1-8: Test cypionate 400mg e4d
week 1-6: Dbol 20mg e1d
week 9-14: Nebido 1000mg

week 15: Starting all over again, maybe with 30mg Dbol this time.

What I need help with: PROTECTION!
What drugs do I need to take for:
My liver?
My kidneys?
A.I? Should I take it precautionary or just if I feel that I am starting to see signs of gyno?
pct? Since I am on Nebido, I am not really worried about being suppressed. Do I still need any kind of PCT together with Nebido?

Thanks guys!!!!

 

[MaxxPursuit]

Welcome bud. I would not touch dbol at all if your bodyfat is 17%. Dbol is a very wet, bulking type oral. With your bodyfat so high, that's not what you want. You have to remember that dbol has a very high conversion to estrogen rate and the higher your bodyfat, the more sides you're going to experience. You're going to be fighting an uphill battle bro. Not to mention 6 weeks is too long.

Since you're on trt, pct is not needed as you're not kickstarting your natural production. You would simply drop your blast down to your trt dose.

What are your goals for the cycle bud? To me, it sounds like your nutrition is what needs work. Do you actively track your intake?

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[RickRock]

Hi guys!
I am preparing for my first stacking cycle. Its going to be LOW dosage and BY THE BOOKS. I am not in a hurry to fuck myself up completely and I want to be as safe as possible while doing this. I have previously been on some test only cycles, nothing fancy 500mg e5d, without noticing any sides.

About me: 34 years old, 5"11 210 lbs, 15-17% bodyfat.
Important: I am on TRT (Nebido).

Cycle:
week 1-8: Test cypionate 400mg e4d
week 1-6: Dbol 20mg e1d
week 9-14: Nebido 1000mg

week 15: Starting all over again, maybe with 30mg Dbol this time.

What I need help with: PROTECTION!
What drugs do I need to take for:
My liver?
My kidneys?
A.I? Should I take it precautionary or just if I feel that I am starting to see signs of gyno?
pct? Since I am on Nebido, I am not really worried about being suppressed. Do I still need any kind of PCT together with Nebido?

Thanks guys!!!!

First of all bro, your bodyfat is far too elevated for doing a cycle. You need to get that down before you begin anything.

Second thing, is your cycle is only 8 weeks. You really need to make 12 or so with long Ester test in there.

Dbol should be kept to 4 weeks only, and 30mg is a decent dose.

No PCT is needed if you are on TRT

For supports, first and foremost you need to be using aromasin on cycle to control estrogen with that higher level of test, and especially with Dbol. Run it at 12.5mg EOD. Since you are running Dbol, you need to use cycle support. A good one to use is from CEL called cycle assist. Just google it

The main thing I. Stress here is to NOT start a cycle until you are in better shape and get your bodyfat down to probably 12% or so ideally


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[SDKing]

I think its only a rumor that steroids damage the kidneys. Some guys can get dark urine on Tren cycles or when taking orals but as far as I know its just a bro myth that the kidneys are actually taking a hit when this happens. Just drink a LOT of water at least a gallon a day on cycle and off too. Liver damage is definitely real. I take NAC and Tudca and I do fine.

 

[Jake]

Adding to what has been said already...the nebido....you are going to use 1000mg of test from weeks 9-14??? Whoa bro....that pro level test, and would never go that high.

 

[JackSteel]

400cyp e4d is the same as 800mg a week which is WAY TOO MUCH!!! I don't know what nebido is but I doubt it's going to lessen suppression. Do not run that much test ESPECIALLY at yoyr BF. You need to cut weight brother. Drop your dose to 300mg and don't do dbol. You're asking for health problems.


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[Jake]

400cyp e4d is the same as 800mg a week which is WAY TOO MUCH!!! I don't know what nebido is but I doubt it's going to lessen suppression. Do not run that much test ESPECIALLY at yoyr BF. You need to cut weight brother. Drop your dose to 300mg and don't do dbol. You're asking for health problems.


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Nebido is a long chain test similar to the long one in sustanon. So 1000mgs of nebido is not much different than 1000mgs cyp or sus.

 

[mrolson]

First, thanks for all the answers!!!

First of all bro, your bodyfat is far too elevated for doing a cycle. You need to get that down before you begin anything.

Second thing, is your cycle is only 8 weeks. You really need to make 12 or so with long Ester test in there.

Dbol should be kept to 4 weeks only, and 30mg is a decent dose.

No PCT is needed if you are on TRT

For supports, first and foremost you need to be using aromasin on cycle to control estrogen with that higher level of test, and especially with Dbol. Run it at 12.5mg EOD. Since you are running Dbol, you need to use cycle support. A good one to use is from CEL called cycle assist. Just google it

The main thing I. Stress here is to NOT start a cycle until you are in better shape and get your bodyfat down to probably 12% or so ideally


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Welcome bud. I would not touch dbol at all if your bodyfat is 17%. Dbol is a very wet, bulking type oral. With your bodyfat so high, that's not what you want. You have to remember that dbol has a very high conversion to estrogen rate and the higher your bodyfat, the more sides you're going to experience. You're going to be fighting an uphill battle bro. Not to mention 6 weeks is too long.

Since you're on trt, pct is not needed as you're not kickstarting your natural production. You would simply drop your blast down to your trt dose.

What are your goals for the cycle bud? To me, it sounds like your nutrition is what needs work. Do you actively track your intake?

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Ok, in light of this I am going to reconsider and do another stack...but you are not going to like it. The thing is that I am living in China and its VERY hard to get hold off gear here, especially as a foreigner, so the selection is kind of limited.

What I would like to do is go for an anavar+test cycle, but I cant get hold of anavar and also its expensive as "#¤". What I CAN get is tren enh...and thats what I am going for. I am going to write the details of the cycle below and I would be very grateful if you guys would care to take a look.

Adding to what has been said already...the nebido....you are going to use 1000mg of test from weeks 9-14??? Whoa bro....that pro level test, and would never go that high.

Actually, Nebido is a 1x1000mg shot that is slowly released into the bloodstream over a long time, in my case 4-6 weeks. So, I am not going to take 1000mg Nebido once every week



So, NEW CYCLE: TREN Enh + Test Cypionate

I am not a complete retard. I know that Tren is nothing to play around with, especially enhanate since it takes so long time for it to go out of your system, but its all I can get hold off and I am going to go for Tren sooner or later anyways. I am going to start out on a LOW dosage to slowly get a feel for the sides and then gradually increase the dosage.

Week:
1: Tren 100mg and Test Cyp 100mg e7d + Dostinex (Arimidex if needed)
2. Tren 200mg and Test Cyp 200mg e7d + Dostinex (Arimidex if needed)
3-8. Tren 300mg and Test Cyp 200mg e7d + Dostinex (Arimidex if needed)
9-12. Nebido 1000mg (Arimidex if needed)

Note, I will ONLY increase the dosage IF the sides are bearable.

Questions:
1. How does the cycle look?
2. Will I need on cycle support besides Dostinex? From the information I've been able to gather, it seems that the worst sides of Tren (that you can do something about) is the shutdow and the prolactine increase. On cycle support is not sold in China and pretty damn hard to get into the country.

Thanks!

 

[C&B]

Hey man I was in the same boat. I did have years of lifting experience under my belt and did have a bit of muscle, but my BF % was around 17 -18. Do yourself a favor and at least get down to 13%. If you cannot do that you will not be capable of doing a cycle and getting reasonable results. It should not take long with a little dieting and some cardio. did have bad sides because my BF was to high. I have tried Gw1506 once and it seemed to help. You are looking for a chemical solution, when you have to do it on your own. Trust me ,and this is from experience you will look like a puffy piece of shit. Get a little lean ,and learn that disipline from dieting, and you will be so much happier with the results. Now I know some people are he'll bent on taking something, and if you insist I would go low does test like 200mgs a week along with Alex, or aromasin and work your ass off and diet. This comes from my personal experience. Good luck.

 

[RickRock]

First, thanks for all the answers!!!




Ok, in light of this I am going to reconsider and do another stack...but you are not going to like it. The thing is that I am living in China and its VERY hard to get hold off gear here, especially as a foreigner, so the selection is kind of limited.

What I would like to do is go for an anavar+test cycle, but I cant get hold of anavar and also its expensive as "#¤". What I CAN get is tren enh...and thats what I am going for. I am going to write the details of the cycle below and I would be very grateful if you guys would care to take a look.



Actually, Nebido is a 1x1000mg shot that is slowly released into the bloodstream over a long time, in my case 4-6 weeks. So, I am not going to take 1000mg Nebido once every week



So, NEW CYCLE: TREN Enh + Test Cypionate

I am not a complete retard. I know that Tren is nothing to play around with, especially enhanate since it takes so long time for it to go out of your system, but its all I can get hold off and I am going to go for Tren sooner or later anyways. I am going to start out on a LOW dosage to slowly get a feel for the sides and then gradually increase the dosage.

Week:
1: Tren 100mg and Test Cyp 100mg e7d + Dostinex (Arimidex if needed)
2. Tren 200mg and Test Cyp 200mg e7d + Dostinex (Arimidex if needed)
3-8. Tren 300mg and Test Cyp 200mg e7d + Dostinex (Arimidex if needed)
9-12. Nebido 1000mg (Arimidex if needed)

Note, I will ONLY increase the dosage IF the sides are bearable.

Questions:
1. How does the cycle look?
2. Will I need on cycle support besides Dostinex? From the information I've been able to gather, it seems that the worst sides of Tren (that you can do something about) is the shutdow and the prolactine increase. On cycle support is not sold in China and pretty damn hard to get into the country.

Thanks!

I'm sorry bro, but Tren is a horrible idea for you right now. The fact that it's all you can get a hold of is a terrible and reckless excuse. We have many sources here that can ship to you I'm sure.mat your elevated bodyfat, you shouldn't be using steroids at all right now. You really need to get that down, otherwise you are looking at some big complications to your health, especially running Tren.

What dactyl is your goals? If you are looking to drop bodyfat and shred up you need to do something different. Steroids aren't fat burners by any means, and as I said your bodyfat is too high for them.

A much better ootion is to use a sarms stack to add to your TRT dose. That will actually help you achieve your goals, and www.sarmsx.com can ship to you in China no problem without issue

Here is what I recommend you run adding to your TRT

1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)




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[Jake]

First, thanks for all the answers!!!




Ok, in light of this I am going to reconsider and do another stack...but you are not going to like it. The thing is that I am living in China and its VERY hard to get hold off gear here, especially as a foreigner, so the selection is kind of limited.

What I would like to do is go for an anavar+test cycle, but I cant get hold of anavar and also its expensive as "#¤". What I CAN get is tren enh...and thats what I am going for. I am going to write the details of the cycle below and I would be very grateful if you guys would care to take a look.



Actually, Nebido is a 1x1000mg shot that is slowly released into the bloodstream over a long time, in my case 4-6 weeks. So, I am not going to take 1000mg Nebido once every week



So, NEW CYCLE: TREN Enh + Test Cypionate

I am not a complete retard. I know that Tren is nothing to play around with, especially enhanate since it takes so long time for it to go out of your system, but its all I can get hold off and I am going to go for Tren sooner or later anyways. I am going to start out on a LOW dosage to slowly get a feel for the sides and then gradually increase the dosage.

Week:
1: Tren 100mg and Test Cyp 100mg e7d + Dostinex (Arimidex if needed)
2. Tren 200mg and Test Cyp 200mg e7d + Dostinex (Arimidex if needed)
3-8. Tren 300mg and Test Cyp 200mg e7d + Dostinex (Arimidex if needed)
9-12. Nebido 1000mg (Arimidex if needed)

Note, I will ONLY increase the dosage IF the sides are bearable.

Questions:
1. How does the cycle look?
2. Will I need on cycle support besides Dostinex? From the information I've been able to gather, it seems that the worst sides of Tren (that you can do something about) is the shutdow and the prolactine increase. On cycle support is not sold in China and pretty damn hard to get into the country.

Thanks!

Bro you are mis understanding nebido...and badly. It is simply a long chained testosterone,that big pharm may tell you is good for one month but it is only slightly longer in the system as test cyp. So sustanon contains test prop, 2 intermediate length chains and a long chain called test decanoate. This test decanoate makes up 30% of sustanon. Your Nebido is testosterone undecanoate, and is just a longer chained testosterone that stays in the system a bit longer than test cyp or testE. You do not want to 1000mgs of this on top of other steroids.