Cycle review (16 week Bulk / Cut from 'Anabolics by William Llewellyn')

[Redspecial]

Thoughts on this 16 week Bulk / Cut stack?

It is an adaption of a cycle from Anabolics by William Llewellyn (6th edition).

The principle/run time and base compounds are the same, but it leaves out half of the compounds such as EQ, HGH, Insulin, Winny, Halo, Proviron. I swapped Dbol to Tbol too.

Obviously with the other compounds it is an EXTREMELY complex cycle for advanced AAS users.




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PCT

Clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
Nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
MK-2866 25 mg day (4 weeks)
GW-501516 20 mg day


I plan on doing this in the near future, but not any time soon. I just wanted to see what your thoughts were.

 

[vinni]

Lots of folks here way smarter than I, but my thoughts are:
It's way to Elaborate, why HCG the whole time?
The caber dose is basically the same but worded different.
If you gonna bulk first 8 weeks why not Deca instead of NPP ?
8 weeks of Var is probably a waste. The Test, NPP,T-Bol looks like a cut cycle to me too.
It really depends on what you think your gonna get out of it.
Others will chime in I'm sure.

 

[DylanGemelli]

hcg use way to long.. tbol dose too high... test dose too hgh... anavar TOO LONG and arimidex with 650 mg of test at only .25 mg eod? i hate everything about these cycles...

 

[vinni]

hcg use way to long.. tbol dose too high... test dose too hgh... anavar TOO LONG and arimidex with 650 mg of test at only .25 mg eod? i hate everything about these cycles...

Haha. So besides those minor things it's G2G right?

 

[RickRock]

You are running both orals way too long. 6 weeks max on each. You don't want to use HCG the whole cycle like that. Only the end of the cycle if you must use it.

Your arimadex dose is too low, and really you should be running aromasin anyways.

 

[Redspecial]

hcg use way to long.. tbol dose too high... test dose too hgh... anavar TOO LONG and arimidex with 650 mg of test at only .25 mg eod? i hate everything about these cycles...

Thanks mate. You would HATE his book.

He recommends loads of cycles with no Test base and EQ / Deca at 4 weeks in some cases.



I amended all the things for the future that you said other than the DEX. Im running 600mg Test E a week atm with 0.25mg and my Estorgen is steady at 30pg with no sides. Guess I am not too oestrogen sensitive.

 

[Redspecial]

You are running both orals way too long. 6 weeks max on each. You don't want to use HCG the whole cycle like that. Only the end of the cycle if you must use it.

Your arimadex dose is too low, and really you should be running aromasin anyways.

I am not running this Rick., Its a hypothetical cycle. In saying that I made the changes you mentioned other than the Adex as that dose is perfect for me on 600mg of test a week.

 

[Saiyan]

Lots of folks here way smarter than I, but my thoughts are:
It's way to Elaborate, why HCG the whole time?
The caber dose is basically the same but worded different.
If you gonna bulk first 8 weeks why not Deca instead of NPP ?
8 weeks of Var is probably a waste. The Test, NPP,T-Bol looks like a cut cycle to me too.
It really depends on what you think your gonna get out of it.
Others will chime in I'm sure.

I’ve had a bit of an inside view about a few details of what pros run. Several, tip of the peak, run HCG throughout. Makes sense to me as well. As soon as I can find a decent deal I will be getting some to add back in.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks mate. You would HATE his book.

He recommends loads of cycles with no Test base and EQ / Deca at 4 weeks in some cases.



I amended all the things for the future that you said other than the DEX. Im running 600mg Test E a week atm with 0.25mg and my Estorgen is steady at 30pg with no sides. Guess I am not too oestrogen sensitive.

yea, i wouldnt even begin to consider reading that shit bro

 

[JeffFran]

Lots of folks here way smarter than I, but my thoughts are:
It's way to Elaborate, why HCG the whole time?
The caber dose is basically the same but worded different.
If you gonna bulk first 8 weeks why not Deca instead of NPP ?
8 weeks of Var is probably a waste. The Test, NPP,T-Bol looks like a cut cycle to me too.
It really depends on what you think your gonna get out of it.
Others will chime in I'm sure.

NPP is way better than Deca for shorter cycles so yeah NPP makes a lot more sense than Deca for that lenght period as well as majority of people claim that gains are leaner, therefore less water and Tbol is a clean mass builder as well so I really do not understand why on hell it is a "cut cycle" , is a cycle where you don't have any dirty bulking agents like Dbol or Anadrol where you gain 20lbs and half are water which are not gains but "delusional" ones

 

[vinni]

NPP is way better than Deca for shorter cycles so yeah NPP makes a lot more sense than Deca for that lenght period as well as majority of people claim that gains are leaner, therefore less water and Tbol is a clean mass builder as well so I really do not understand why on hell it is a "cut cycle" , is a cycle where you don't have any dirty bulking agents like Dbol or Anadrol where you gain 20lbs and half are water which are not gains but "delusional" ones

Well it's like I said " it all depends what you think your gonna get out of it" no need to cuss me BTW.

 

[JeffFran]

Well it's like I said " it all depends what you think your gonna get out of it" no need to cuss me BTW.

I didn’t. Just the way you said things aren’t accurate by stating Deca should be run 8 weeks which is far too low and keep mind deca and NPP are the same só saying one will lead to a cut cycle and other won’t is like saying tren enanthate is for bulking and acetate for cutting


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