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Cycle Question

nothingkrot

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Hey Dylan,


I've been watching your videos to educate myself about PCT's, SARMs, SERMs and cycles, first off great information and thank you. I plan on running 20/20/30/30/30 with Epistane/Havoc and then running a PCT. That is what I have questions about, I want the most out of it so I was thinking 4 weeks of:


Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 + Ostarine 25/25/25/25/25/25/25 + Arimistane 50/50/50/50 and then running Hcgenerate so a couple weeks after that as a mini PCT to the Ostarine. I was just wondering whether you think this sounds okay and thorough enough? First time using a pro hormone so just trying to cover my bases as much as possible, any advice will help!
 
why in the hell are you taking a PH? I guess you missed the point, that shit shuts you down.

Your PCT is totally fucked up, look up pct here on the board, plenty of examples of a proper pct.
 
Hey Dylan,


I've been watching your videos to educate myself about PCT's, SARMs, SERMs and cycles, first off great information and thank you. I plan on running 20/20/30/30/30 with Epistane/Havoc and then running a PCT. That is what I have questions about, I want the most out of it so I was thinking 4 weeks of:


Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 + Ostarine 25/25/25/25/25/25/25 + Arimistane 50/50/50/50 and then running Hcgenerate so a couple weeks after that as a mini PCT to the Ostarine. I was just wondering whether you think this sounds okay and thorough enough? First time using a pro hormone so just trying to cover my bases as much as possible, any advice will help!
hey bro... in complete honesty, this is flat ass horrible... 1. your wanting to use an oral, ph or not, its still an oral steroid, and you want to do so without testosterone... NO WAY... you need to watch my video on oral only cycles.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n7AFV4HBSg&t=9s w. your pct is not complete whatsoever and hcgenerate is laughable... 3. you did not list any starts or goals? how on earth do you expect to recommend anything without knowing anything about you?????? age/height/weight/body fat? cycle history? goals?
 
Sorry guys, jeez, this was an email I sent to Dylan asking a simply question that ended up on a forum and you guys are giving me shit for not listing every possible detail :/, I didnt know this would be posted but anyway...my bad, il give the run down. I decided since posting this that I am not going to run Ostarine in the PCT due to the suppression issue that I've read about, not worth it to me, I will run it on it owns in the future to see if it is all that it claims.

I am 23 ,been training for about 5 years, seriously for about 4(diet and training). I am 5'7, started off lifting weighing 128lbs in 2011(may have grown half an inch since), since that I have put on a lot of weight, currently at 177lbs, I am relatively lean about 9% body fat the last time I checked. I train primarily for powerlifting but the past year I had a set back, torn my MCL so that put a damper in my training, especially since I was used to doing lower body work at least 2 times a week. Since that injury I have almost recovered all my strength but still not quite there. Max Lifts pre injury : Bench- 295, Squat - 415 and Deadlift - 445. Current Maxs : Bench - 280(leg drive makes a difference), Deadlift - 435 and Squat - 365. I chose Epistane as I did not want to run a wet compound, At 5'7 the puffy look isnt what Im shooting for, so it seems to be the right choice. Also I know it has positive results when it comes to strength which is important to me of course as I do plan on competing again this year.

I am on my second week , First week ran 20mg and this week I started 30mg, and will continue to run 30mg for another 2 weeks. No weight gain yet but I am visibly leaner and more vascular, BP was high last week but I was still using caffeine, I have since cut that out and it has helped. Back Pumps havent come in yet but I am ready for them with some Taurine if needed. I am running Hcgenerate as well on cycle to keep the jewels nice and plump. I did notice maybe a slight lethargy issue in the first week but i ignore it for the most part and it didnt have any effect on training intensity , in fact my workouts have been awesome, the energy and focus is non stop, I have to force myself to leave the gym. Penis still works, I tested it on my gf and she had no complaints. Eating 3200 calories a day, It would be a slight calorie surplus for me, I didnt not want to use it to cut as I primarily am looking for strength gains with a little lean mass if possible so not over doing the calories. So far so good, I am not sure why I am receiving such negative feedback, I literally went off what Dylan said about Epi in his video, I have Nolva and plan on running 20/20/10/10 for 4 weeks as I've read on multiple forums, i will be taking an OTC PCT as well, tribulus, and another bottle of Hcgenerate if needed. I am using cycle support, milk thistle, fish oil, joint support, multi and melatonin as well. So whats missing guys ? Please explain why I am an idiot, I look forward to it lol. I have Arimistane as well but I may not use it in the PCT as I've been reading and apparently most people say it is not needed. You never mentioned that orals "needed" to be ran along side Test, I can see how that would be optimal but this is my first time using anything outside creatine so I figured I keep it simply. I have read many people who run stand alone cycles of Epistane with good results. My goal is to add strength and I am doing enough assistance work to induce the hypertrophy that comes along with it. Alright now shoot....what am I doing wrong?
 
Sorry guys, jeez, this was an email I sent to Dylan asking a simply question that ended up on a forum and you guys are giving me shit for not listing every possible detail :/, I didnt know this would be posted but anyway...my bad, il give the run down. I decided since posting this that I am not going to run Ostarine in the PCT due to the suppression issue that I've read about, not worth it to me, I will run it on it owns in the future to see if it is all that it claims.

I am 23 ,been training for about 5 years, seriously for about 4(diet and training). I am 5'7, started off lifting weighing 128lbs in 2011(may have grown half an inch since), since that I have put on a lot of weight, currently at 177lbs, I am relatively lean about 9% body fat the last time I checked. I train primarily for powerlifting but the past year I had a set back, torn my MCL so that put a damper in my training, especially since I was used to doing lower body work at least 2 times a week. Since that injury I have almost recovered all my strength but still not quite there. Max Lifts pre injury : Bench- 295, Squat - 415 and Deadlift - 445. Current Maxs : Bench - 280(leg drive makes a difference), Deadlift - 435 and Squat - 365. I chose Epistane as I did not want to run a wet compound, At 5'7 the puffy look isnt what Im shooting for, so it seems to be the right choice. Also I know it has positive results when it comes to strength which is important to me of course as I do plan on competing again this year.

I am on my second week , First week ran 20mg and this week I started 30mg, and will continue to run 30mg for another 2 weeks. No weight gain yet but I am visibly leaner and more vascular, BP was high last week but I was still using caffeine, I have since cut that out and it has helped. Back Pumps havent come in yet but I am ready for them with some Taurine if needed. I am running Hcgenerate as well on cycle to keep the jewels nice and plump. I did notice maybe a slight lethargy issue in the first week but i ignore it for the most part and it didnt have any effect on training intensity , in fact my workouts have been awesome, the energy and focus is non stop, I have to force myself to leave the gym. Penis still works, I tested it on my gf and she had no complaints. Eating 3200 calories a day, It would be a slight calorie surplus for me, I didnt not want to use it to cut as I primarily am looking for strength gains with a little lean mass if possible so not over doing the calories. So far so good, I am not sure why I am receiving such negative feedback, I literally went off what Dylan said about Epi in his video, I have Nolva and plan on running 20/20/10/10 for 4 weeks as I've read on multiple forums, i will be taking an OTC PCT as well, tribulus, and another bottle of Hcgenerate if needed. I am using cycle support, milk thistle, fish oil, joint support, multi and melatonin as well. So whats missing guys ? Please explain why I am an idiot, I look forward to it lol. I have Arimistane as well but I may not use it in the PCT as I've been reading and apparently most people say it is not needed. You never mentioned that orals "needed" to be ran along side Test, I can see how that would be optimal but this is my first time using anything outside creatine so I figured I keep it simply. I have read many people who run stand alone cycles of Epistane with good results. My goal is to add strength and I am doing enough assistance work to induce the hypertrophy that comes along with it. Alright now shoot....what am I doing wrong?

Dude this is all a bad move and disaster. You are way too young to be using any type of steroid or prohormone, and you don't ever want to run an oral without testosterone. My advice to you would've to stop this immediately and start pct before you cause any more damage than you've already done.

And you need to run a FULL pct after this cycle, not a half ass pct.

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED





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beyond being way too young and knowing everything as a beginner, your running an oral only cycle too... you have no clue what your saying about ostarine in pct and it is NOT suppressive at four weeks of use, but once again, you would know so i'll just shut up... you run your oral only cycle at 23 years old... i can already tell with the way you responded, your not going to listen so im not wasting my time... there are people who really want and need help and do listen... run your oral only, make recovery much harder along with keepability, go ahead and use steroids at a baby age for the steroid world and see where it gets you in say about 5-6 years because your going to be hating life... but hey, you already know that... then you make a comment about people asking for stats... well being that you know so much about this one would think you would know that without that info, there's no way to make a proper recommendation, but hey, you already know that
 
clearly your elaborate and expanded knowledge and experience if far superior to guys that have been doing this for over a decade... what do i know?
 
Okay, so obviously these forums works in a strange way. Very aggressive, wonder why lol. Lighten up, you guys came at me right off the bat so I was explaining my self and yes I am a smart ass but that does not mean I am not open ears to actually information. I simply asked what would be the ideal pct for Epistane, If I was down to run Test why would I even bother with Epistane. I like how @RickRock responded, he criticized me but atleast had an answer to my PCT question. Yes, I know recovery will be slow and I want to know how to address that. I do not plan on taking Test, otherwise I would not even bother with any orals. 23 is too young, I agree, but does that change the fact that I am running it as we speak ? No. You had the time to respond yet left out any information that could answer what question, but included the statement " so im not wasting my time", but you already did by responding. I have seriously read 30+ Epistane Logs, yes there are negative sides that I am aware of and Im trying to avoid but non of those forums have people bashing the person saying 'YOU NEED TEST!'. This is the first im hearing of it. Im not asking for life advice or what is optimal, I am asking about a well rounded PCT for a stand alone Epistane Cycle, thats all. I am aware you are well versed in the topic so I figured I would ask, so I emailed the email address you provided. I did not know this would turn into a forum and you would reply twice with no information pertaining to my question. I am not being an asshole, I am being 100% real. Again, I am aware of the risks and you are right, im sure it is way better when you run test along side it but I am not, along with 100s of other people. So if anyone wants to answer that question awesome, if you want to give me shit and act like my parent then i am not interested at all. I dont think I will be hating life in 5 years, I think il be fine, 4 weeks of Epistane will not ruin my life, even you know that is BS, so be real or just dont waste your time as you stated.
 
Okay, so obviously these forums works in a strange way. Very aggressive, wonder why lol. Lighten up, you guys came at me right off the bat so I was explaining my self and yes I am a smart ass but that does not mean I am not open ears to actually information. I simply asked what would be the ideal pct for Epistane, If I was down to run Test why would I even bother with Epistane. I like how @RickRock responded, he criticized me but atleast had an answer to my PCT question. Yes, I know recovery will be slow and I want to know how to address that. I do not plan on taking Test, otherwise I would not even bother with any orals. 23 is too young, I agree, but does that change the fact that I am running it as we speak ? No. You had the time to respond yet left out any information that could answer what question, but included the statement " so im not wasting my time", but you already did by responding. I have seriously read 30+ Epistane Logs, yes there are negative sides that I am aware of and Im trying to avoid but non of those forums have people bashing the person saying 'YOU NEED TEST!'. This is the first im hearing of it. Im not asking for life advice or what is optimal, I am asking about a well rounded PCT for a stand alone Epistane Cycle, thats all. I am aware you are well versed in the topic so I figured I would ask, so I emailed the email address you provided. I did not know this would turn into a forum and you would reply twice with no information pertaining to my question. I am not being an asshole, I am being 100% real. Again, I am aware of the risks and you are right, im sure it is way better when you run test along side it but I am not, along with 100s of other people. So if anyone wants to answer that question awesome, if you want to give me shit and act like my parent then i am not interested at all. I dont think I will be hating life in 5 years, I think il be fine, 4 weeks of Epistane will not ruin my life, even you know that is BS, so be real or just dont waste your time as you stated.

Sometimes you are going to get tough love here bud. That's just the way it is when people go against advice given to them. You just have to suck it up and take it for what it is as constructive without the butt hurt.

You are certainly free to do as you please with your cycle, and as you said you are already running it so its your call on how to proceed with that. If you are continuing with it, please make sure you have the right cycle support to go with it, and run the pct I laid out for you above.


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