Cannot lower Estradiol

[buen]

Understood, Buen:

Call me a dick. i fucked up. Still would you agree the Aromasin at some point "should" reduce the E2?

Not saying it's the way to go just saying it should reduce the estradiol.

yes...the aromisin will bring it down...but you need to stop the further conversion from test to estrogen...the only way to do that is stop injecting ...continue the aromisin while the esters clear

I have a bit of extra bad news.....since your fat cells are now pretty saturated with estrogen....as you reduce your BF (diet and cardo).....you will be releasing some estrogen back into your blood....you may have to continue a small dose of aromisin for awhile after PCT....frequent bloodwork is the only way to make sure you are on track and stay on tract

 

[DylanGemelli]

yes...the aromisin will bring it down...but you need to stop the further conversion from test to estrogen...the only way to do that is stop injecting ...continue the aromisin while the esters clear

I have a bit of extra bad news.....since your fat cells are now pretty saturated with estrogen....as you reduce your BF (diet and cardo).....you will be releasing some estrogen back into your blood....you may have to continue a small dose of aromisin for awhile after PCT....frequent bloodwork is the only way to make sure you are on track and stay on tract

this is spot on and this sis something that also gets overlooked when controlling estrogen... the rate of estrogen conversion at higher body fat is terrible, it just is... im never being a fucking dick when i tell people not to use steroids at a high body fat... this is one of the main reasons but noone needs to bag on him for this... we need to help...

dr jay, you have some great advice given... my first concern is the quality of your aromasin, obviously because although your estrogen will be far worse at a higher body fat, aromasin should still be lowering it... personally that would be my first concern

 

[drjay9051]

yes...the aromisin will bring it down...but you need to stop the further conversion from test to estrogen...the only way to do that is stop injecting ...continue the aromisin while the esters clear

I have a bit of extra bad news.....since your fat cells are now pretty saturated with estrogen....as you reduce your BF (diet and cardo).....you will be releasing some estrogen back into your blood....you may have to continue a small dose of aromisin for awhile after PCT....frequent bloodwork is the only way to make sure you are on track and stay on tract

Thanks. I have put away the pins aside from HGH. I will switch to different Aromasin at say 25 QD and then to 12.5 will follow with bloods.

Injected 250 Test cyp this A.M. so i'm thinking couple of weeks of HCG at 1000/week while ester clears. Follow up with Clomid/Nolva PCT and as you suggest possibly remain on Aromasin via checking blood work.

I am committed to dropping the BF and giving this another go.

Lesson learned, the hard way but learned none the less

Looking at your avatar I'm thinking you must be around my age but clearly lower BF%.

Live and learn!!!

 

[drjay9051]

this is spot on and this sis something that also gets overlooked when controlling estrogen... the rate of estrogen conversion at higher body fat is terrible, it just is... im never being a fucking dick when i tell people not to use steroids at a high body fat... this is one of the main reasons but noone needs to bag on him for this... we need to help...

dr jay, you have some great advice given... my first concern is the quality of your aromasin, obviously because although your estrogen will be far worse at a higher body fat, aromasin should still be lowering it... personally that would be my first concern

Thnks, Dylan.

I'm on the road to recovery. Next time around will be different. I'm thinking late summer if I work my ass off. Actually no ass just a 6 pack that over the years transformed into a keg.

Thanks everyone for the help.

I will never ever make this mistake again.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thnks, Dylan.

I'm on the road to recovery. Next time around will be different. I'm thinking late summer if I work my ass off. Actually no ass just a 6 pack that over the years transformed into a keg.

Thanks everyone for the help.

I will never ever make this mistake again.

all good brother... you are here to learn , just like we all are and we have to learn from our mistakes... you will be just fine

 

[jp1957]

Thanks. I have put away the pins aside from HGH. I will switch to different Aromasin at say 25 QD and then to 12.5 will follow with bloods.

Injected 250 Test cyp this A.M. so i'm thinking couple of weeks of HCG at 1000/week while ester clears. Follow up with Clomid/Nolva PCT and as you suggest possibly remain on Aromasin via checking blood work.

I am committed to dropping the BF and giving this another go.

Lesson learned, the hard way but learned none the less

Looking at your avatar I'm thinking you must be around my age but clearly lower BF%.

Live and learn!!!

You need to add ostarine and gw to your pct.
Nolva and Clomid isnt enough.

 

[Gixxer]

I know this thread is a bit old and sounds like you got the information you were looking for.
I just wanted to give you my feedback with my own personal experience..

Even if you trust your source they could still get bad gear. It happened to me with my aromasin, I've used the source before with no issues and then received a new batch of aromasin and my e2 doubled because the aromasin was bad. All I can say is trust the blood work , it's the only way to know for sure. If it was legit your e2 should of never gotten that high.

 

[ILIFT2LIVE]

this is spot on and this sis something that also gets overlooked when controlling estrogen... the rate of estrogen conversion at higher body fat is terrible, it just is... im never being a fucking dick when i tell people not to use steroids at a high body fat... this is one of the main reasons but noone needs to bag on him for this... we need to help...

dr jay, you have some great advice given... my first concern is the quality of your aromasin, obviously because although your estrogen will be far worse at a higher body fat, aromasin should still be lowering it... personally that would be my first concern

100% agree with this. Sadly. If your bf on any person is high. That tells me that you aren't eating properly or strict enough for fitness which is the first step getting the mind and will power right then the body. Then the add ins i.e. Roids or hgh or sarms. Products aren't bandaids and in most cases make things worse. Which is why individuals with high bf that run products get fatter not leaner. It all starts with food. Not roids.


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[DylanGemelli]

100% agree with this. Sadly. If your bf on any person is high. That tells me that you aren't eating properly or strict enough for fitness which is the first step getting the mind and will power right then the body. Then the add ins i.e. Roids or hgh or sarms. Products aren't bandaids and in most cases make things worse. Which is why individuals with high bf that run products get fatter not leaner. It all starts with food. Not roids.


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finally someone that fucking gets it.. WELL SAID man!

 

[ILIFT2LIVE]

finally someone that fucking gets it.. WELL SAID man!

Ha ha. Yep. Long time athlete. And I'm over 40 and didn't even use aas until I was 35.

But I have friends who are like 30% bf or higher using juice saying oh idc about leaning out I just want to be stronger. And I tell them they will die soon.


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