Calve pain

[Ketis1985]

Hello everybody! Im 31 year old male and have being bodybuilding 10 years naturally. Im 5 feet 10 inches and 172 pounds (im ectomorph bodystructure) i don't have measured my bodyfat but i quess its around 12%. Goal is to recomp im eating little over my maintenance and liftin 7 hours a week and doing aerobics 3 hours a week and feeling great. Now the question: i get really bad calve pain and pumps doing cardio on treadmill (won't get them on slower pace and lower incline but get bored by doing that and also my hips will kill me if i do more cardio) my lungs could handle lots of abuse so id like to push my self a bit more. Is there any tricks that could alleviate my problem instead of PEDs? I strech my calves and occasionally give them some massage. Any help would be appreciated

 

[44YOGearHead]

Hello everybody! Im 31 year old male and have being bodybuilding 10 years naturally. Im 5 feet 10 inches and 172 pounds (im ectomorph bodystructure) i don't have measured my bodyfat but i quess its around 12%. Goal is to recomp im eating little over my maintenance and liftin 7 hours a week and doing aerobics 3 hours a week and feeling great. Now the question: i get really bad calve pain and pumps doing cardio on treadmill (won't get them on slower pace and lower incline but get bored by doing that and also my hips will kill me if i do more cardio) my lungs could handle lots of abuse so id like to push my self a bit more. Is there any tricks that could alleviate my problem instead of PEDs? I strech my calves and occasionally give them some massage. Any help would be appreciated

Gee, that came off a bit condescending for the record. My recommendation would be to add a little resistance to your stretches by way of a towel in order to strengthen those natty muscles of yours. Imagine a variation of the seated hamstring stretch with a towel below your upper feet. As you stretch your hammys extend your toes away from you. This among other variants should allow you to strengthen those hard earned supportive muscles of yours and eventually lead to less pain in the problem area. A calf after all is but one muscle in a group of muscles with a singular purpose... to allow the movement of your legs below the knees with a series of muscles all connected in some fashion. I'd have assumed that you'd have known that since you are going about things the right way without cheating like we are. Guess the natty sites didn't have an answer...

 

[Ketis1985]

Gee, that came off a bit condescending for the record. My recommendation would be to add a little resistance to your stretches by way of a towel in order to strengthen those natty muscles of yours. Imagine a variation of the seated hamstring stretch with a towel below your upper feet. As you stretch your hammys extend your toes away from you. This among other variants should allow you to strengthen those hard earned supportive muscles of yours and eventually lead to less pain in the problem area. A calf after all is but one muscle in a group of muscles with a singular purpose... to allow the movement of your legs below the knees with a series of muscles all connected in some fashion. I'd have assumed that you'd have known that since you are going about things the right way without cheating like we are. Guess the natty sites didn't have an answer...

Yeah i know my post was not so great, i ment PEDs like GW alleviating like if its some sort of endurance problem, sorry about that. I never had this kind of issue on younger years when i was doing also lot of cardio, although my calves were smaller so it might be the reason for this problem.....

 

[44YOGearHead]

Try building up the supportive muscles bro, I'm not expert or kinesiologist (spelling), but it might help.

 

[Ketis1985]

Try building up the supportive muscles bro, I'm not expert or kinesiologist (spelling), but it might help.

Okay, thanks for advice bro!

 

[EZ_E]

Maybe try rolling on a foam roller or ABS pipe.

 

[Blue_Shine]

Hello everybody! Im 31 year old male and have being bodybuilding 10 years naturally. Im 5 feet 10 inches and 172 pounds (im ectomorph bodystructure) i don't have measured my bodyfat but i quess its around 12%. Goal is to recomp im eating little over my maintenance and liftin 7 hours a week and doing aerobics 3 hours a week and feeling great. Now the question: i get really bad calve pain and pumps doing cardio on treadmill (won't get them on slower pace and lower incline but get bored by doing that and also my hips will kill me if i do more cardio) my lungs could handle lots of abuse so id like to push my self a bit more. Is there any tricks that could alleviate my problem instead of PEDs? I strech my calves and occasionally give them some massage. Any help would be appreciated

Consider the fact that "pumps" are a subjective sensation bodybuilders associated with increased volume to a muscular compartment. The mechanism underlying this, for the most part, is reactive hyperemia, which is essentially engorging the muscle with blood as a response to increased anaerobic load. It's rare to see in cardio training.

Another underlying etiology that could result in the same objective feeling of "pump" is vascular in nature, and would be more associated with blood delivery resulting in slight venous stagnation giving the very same appearance and feeling.

To differentiate, ask yourself the following questions:
- Is the "pump" like feeling the same in magnitude and onset on both sides?
- Does it relate to carb loading the day before?
- Does it occur in more than one type of aerobic exercise?
- Does it occur during anaerobic exercise?
- Do you have a history of coagulopathies, are you taking any type of vascular medication, have you had a history of venous thrombosis?
- Do you smoke, or have you?

 

[RickRock]

Try dosing 3-6g of Taurine preworkout. It works great for painful muscle cramps.

I'd also revisit your diet and hydration. Make sure you are getting plenty of water and potassium rich foods and that you are maintaining proper electrolyte Balance

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[Ketis1985]

Consider the fact that "pumps" are a subjective sensation bodybuilders associated with increased volume to a muscular compartment. The mechanism underlying this, for the most part, is reactive hyperemia, which is essentially engorging the muscle with blood as a response to increased anaerobic load. It's rare to see in cardio training.
To differentiate, ask yourself the following questions:
- Is the "pump" like feeling the same in magnitude and onset on both sides?
- Does it relate to carb loading the day before?
- Does it occur in more than one type of aerobic exercise?
- Does it occur during anaerobic exercise?
- Do you have a history of coagulopathies, are you taking any type of vascular medication, have you had a history of venous thrombosis?
- Do you smoke, or have you?

Another underlying etiology that could result in the same objective feeling of "pump" is vascular in nature, and would be more associated with blood delivery resulting in slight venous stagnation giving the very same appearance and feeling.
It is same on the other sides. No it does not relate to carb loading, its always the same. No only walking or joggin on treadmill or outside. It does not occur in anaerobic exercise. No i don't have any kind of history coagulopathies, and im not under any medicine or had venous thrombosis. I smoke like 1 cigarette in 2 weeks.

 

[Ketis1985]

Try dosing 3-6g of Taurine preworkout. It works great for painful muscle cramps.

I'd also revisit your diet and hydration. Make sure you are getting plenty of water and potassium rich foods and that you are maintaining proper electrolyte Balance

(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

Yeah i gonna try Taurine... Thanks

 

[SpikedEggnog]

I agree with Rick.

taurine, hydration, Potassium. limit sodium intake, don't overdo it.

also, there are many forms of Cardio besides treadmill bro. you make it seem like treadmill is the only option. Swimming is the best cardio hands down. you also have other machines like Elliptical that are low impact. you can also start doing more supersets or circuit training to increase burned calories without increasing strictly cardio, like treadmill. or try walking nature trails or somewhere scenic. maybe try riding bikes. something less boring.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Yeah i gonna try Taurine... Thanks

that will help, just dont overdo it because many think you can fucking slam taurine and it can have an adverse effect but you don't seem like the type that will over do it.. hydration is huge as is potassium... its just simple everyday things that can help alleviate it... sometimes its the beginning of shin splints as well which i hope its not, but it can actually start there before it makes its way into the shin and that's a bitch... i hope thats not the case for you