Agreed brother. I'm not a cable guy at all. They might be good accessory movements, but the real magic happens going back to basics and the big compound movements
Cable weight vs free weight
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Agreed brother. I'm not a cable guy at all. They might be good accessory movements, but the real magic happens going back to basics and the big compound movements
I looked at my gym's cable crossover machine today…5 pulley's a side one is 8 inches in diameter.
The triceps push down…..2 pulleys ea 3 inches…
no wonder I can do the whole stack on the crossover…LOL
The triceps push down…..2 pulleys ea 3 inches…
no wonder I can do the whole stack on the crossover…LOL
One set up my gym has is a two pulley contraption, the other I prefer for cross overs is single. Everyone else uses the two pulley set up standing there taking up two stations like assholes when the single is virtually untouched... goes to show you which one feels heavier. I hate all those fucktards that seek out the look of heavy versus the real heavy. If I had a dollar for every douche bag in a stringer, or torn up tee that goes to my gym I'd be a millionaire... bottom line there are exercises and equipment meant for serious growth and there are those intended for finishing detail... cables= finishing details IMO.
Stack everything, Lift everything, Kill everything... somebody owes me a dollar for that revelation.
Stack everything, Lift everything, Kill everything... somebody owes me a dollar for that revelation.
mycrosstobare
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Well here is my 2 cents in references to cables vs free weights. Cable machines and machines in general were actually developed to help those who had been injured. They were designed to isolate and help work certain muscle groups without needing the person to engage any other accessory muscles. So, with that being said, the weight feels lighter with a cable machines when you engage those accessory muscles when lifting heavy on a cable machines because the weights are built into a machine and only go one direction. When you go free weight, you are the machine on top of working the muscle. So if you are curling, the weight isn't just going up and down in the curl. You still have to control the weight so that it does not go side to side, or you're not bringing your elbows in or out while lifting the weight. Even though inevitably you're going to do something. You are also activating your core to help stabilize and ground yourself when lifting the weight, to prevent yourself from moving while pulling the heavy weight, or you're counter balancing yourself and so on. The machine does all the above short of lifting the weight, so the strength you have to use to stabilize and control is all directed to the use of the muscle group you are focused on because of the machine.
mycrosstobare
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The less amount of pulleys on the machine is just a mind fuck for ignorant people. Though the single pulley can make the weight slightly heavier due to the fact that the machine only uses one pulley to engage the machine. Mechanics would say more pulleys helps reduce the amount of weight you are actually doing work with. But if the manufacturer of the machine used either single or double pulley, you should still be pulling the same weight and the different pulleys should be taken into account for the machine so the weight should feel the same either way.
More pulleys make a difference... diameter as well. The mechanics is undeniable.
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mycrosstobare
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Oh yea definitely. If the manufacturer was smart they would adjust the wieght on the machine to counter act the amount of pulleys. For example one pulley might need a 43 lb plate to equal 40 lbs of actual weight that is written on the machine . Two pulleys might need a 49 lb plate to pull 40 lbs. I don't know if that makes any sense. My mind is all fucked up when trying to explain stuff sometimes lol. But yes I agree more pulleys equals lighter shit.
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Back to the Post, I think the combination of cable and free weights make the best physique. Free weights help and build the stabilizers and cables give you that constant tension, Plain ans simple!
Back to the Post, I think the combination of cable and free weights make the best physique. Free weights help and build the stabilizers and cables give you that constant tension, Plain ans simple!
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