bulking cycle

[MasterMason]

For my second cycle i want to bulk a lot, i have decided i will go with test e and tren e 200mg a week of each. Now i still need to add a oral steroid in that mix. would it be better to add dbol or maybe tbol? i know with dbol i can get more gains, but with tbol i can get more lean. can i use both dbol and tbol at once? can anavar be used with either tbol or dbol?

 

[TX TERROR]

Well here is the deal with bulking..... Its not always about becoming a balloon. I mean afterall we want retainable and realistic gains. I would opt for tbol or anadrol personally. I only say anadrol because I do really well with drol and don't really hold water.

You're diet is what will truly dictate a bulk.

 

[Testdude63]

I only have experience with dbol and loved the gains. You get a bit more water, but the pumps were unreal and I enjoyed it a lot.

 

[SpikedEggnog]

test/deca + Tbol.

 

[Jake]

For my second cycle i want to bulk a lot, i have decided i will go with test e and tren e 200mg a week of each. Now i still need to add a oral steroid in that mix. would it be better to add dbol or maybe tbol? i know with dbol i can get more gains, but with tbol i can get more lean. can i use both dbol and tbol at once? can anavar be used with either tbol or dbol?

If it is your second cycle there is no rule that you must use an oral. Who told you that? Also, I would not mess with tren,dbol, or adrol until way further down the road. Second cycle...200 test/150-200 deca. You say "bulk a lot" but to me that means get fat.You can only add so much muscle per cycle. If you plan to use heavy aas and then eat 1 million calories per day, what you will find your self doing is being on a diet for long time trying to loose fat. You have the rest of your life to do this, so why age yourself so rapidly? Start low and slow and progress thru your coming years. Safely too!

 

[SpikedEggnog]

If it is your second cycle there is no rule that you must use an oral. Who told you that? Also, I would not mess with tren,dbol, or adrol until way further down the road. Second cycle...200 test/150-200 deca. You say "bulk a lot" but to me that means get fat.You can only add so much muscle per cycle. If you plan to use heavy aas and then eat 1 million calories per day, what you will find your self doing is being on a diet for long time trying to loose fat. You have the rest of your life to do this, so why age yourself so rapidly? Start low and slow and progress thru your coming years. Safely too!

yeah that is true. test/deca is perfect

 

[SpikedEggnog]

for second cycle i definitely wouldnt advise TREN either..

 

[GTFORMULA]

I'm not here telling you to take high doses but my trt dose is higher than your Bulk dose. Not sure how good that would work at that low of a dose. Personally I would say 400-500mg ew sounds more bulk related. Deca at low dose seems to work well however. I like dbol and don't hold water on it.

 

[RickRock]

For my second cycle i want to bulk a lot, i have decided i will go with test e and tren e 200mg a week of each. Now i still need to add a oral steroid in that mix. would it be better to add dbol or maybe tbol? i know with dbol i can get more gains, but with tbol i can get more lean. can i use both dbol and tbol at once? can anavar be used with either tbol or dbol?

I thought we had went over this in another thread with you bro, but I don't advise Tren for a second cycle at all.

Swap that for deca and use 200mg of each per week. Use Tbol as your kickstart, and there's a good second cycle. ....but no Tren bro

 

[SpikedEggnog]

I thought we had went over this in another thread with you bro, but I don't advise Tren for a second cycle at all.

Swap that for deca and use 200mg of each per week. Use Tbol as your kickstart, and there's a good second cycle. ....but no Tren bro

yep, perfect cycle

 

[MasterMason]

how often do i have to inject deca? what do i do to prevent decadick, i dont want to get erectile dysfunction later on in life... im not sure if i will run tren next, but i also wanted to try test eq and tbol for size. i also wanted to say that i value your guys information. i know u guys know what ur talking about. im not sure why everyone hates tren so much but il take ur guys word for it and save it for later.

 

[LV79]

how often do i have to inject deca? what do i do to prevent decadick, i dont want to get erectile dysfunction later on in life... im not sure if i will run tren next, but i also wanted to try test eq and tbol for size. i also wanted to say that i value your guys information. i know u guys know what ur talking about. im not sure why everyone hates tren so much but il take ur guys word for it and save it for later.

It's not that these guys hate tren, in fact many I know love the stuff. It's that tren is an advanced AAS compound. If this is your second run you really need to build up several more basic cycles before contemplate adding tren to your stack. It's kinda of like getting a drivers license, at first you stick to the roads by your home, maybe a highway here and here, but your in no way would you be ready to race nascar. Slow and steady wins the race.


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[Jake]

how often do i have to inject deca? what do i do to prevent decadick, i dont want to get erectile dysfunction later on in life... im not sure if i will run tren next, but i also wanted to try test eq and tbol for size. i also wanted to say that i value your guys information. i know u guys know what ur talking about. im not sure why everyone hates tren so much but il take ur guys word for it and save it for later.

I love tren bro..but not for you right now at this point in your life. You will not get deca dick if you keep your test equal to or greater than the deca. The deca dick thing came about in the 60's when all the guys had was test. Well low and behold out comes dbol and deca.
So it was the fad...trash that old test shit and get on the new shit...deca /dbol cycles were common...and so was deca dick. Deca/dbol is a terrible cycle and once they figured it out to put the test back into the mix the deca dick went away.
So for you, lets say you go 200/200 deca/cyp....you can do it once per week if you have any issues with pins. If they don't bother you then go twice per week @ 100/100.Add the tbol and you will do fine. You save the tren, dbol,adrol, halo etc for way down the road.
I am trying to get you through this as safely and as effective as possible. When you have done several cycles and have pounded the weights for a few more years ,then you can move up to heavies.

 

[DylanGemelli]

how often do i have to inject deca? what do i do to prevent decadick, i dont want to get erectile dysfunction later on in life... im not sure if i will run tren next, but i also wanted to try test eq and tbol for size. i also wanted to say that i value your guys information. i know u guys know what ur talking about. im not sure why everyone hates tren so much but il take ur guys word for it and save it for later.

noone here hates tren at all... noone said that or implied that at any time and there are an abundance of tren users here but people are trying to ensure you do all of this the right way instead of rushing it as you are trying to do... you don't have to worry about deca issues whatsoever if you run it properly at the right dose with the right protection... if your want to try eq, thats a great option as well... YOU COULD run test, npp, eq and tbol... i have a sick layout for you...

1-16 test cyp 250 mg week
1-16 eq 800 mg week
1-12 npp 100 mg eod
1-18 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-12 caber .5 mg e3d
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 cycle assist
1-16 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
15-18 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 19-22

clomid 50/50/25/25

nolva 40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod

mk-2866 25 mg day

gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[RickRock]

how often do i have to inject deca? what do i do to prevent decadick, i dont want to get erectile dysfunction later on in life... im not sure if i will run tren next, but i also wanted to try test eq and tbol for size. i also wanted to say that i value your guys information. i know u guys know what ur talking about. im not sure why everyone hates tren so much but il take ur guys word for it and save it for later.

Deca only needs injected once or twice per week bro. Running your test equal to your Deca won't give you Deca Dick, especially if you keep,your estrogen in check. There is absolutely no worry for erectile dysfunction later in life from this cycle whatsoever.

Nobody hates Tren...as a matter of fact I love it. It's just that it's the most harsh compound there is, and it's not for everyone. It's not for a second cycle at all, and really needs to be used by advanced users only

 

[SpikedEggnog]

how often do i have to inject deca? what do i do to prevent decadick, i dont want to get erectile dysfunction later on in life... im not sure if i will run tren next, but i also wanted to try test eq and tbol for size. i also wanted to say that i value your guys information. i know u guys know what ur talking about. im not sure why everyone hates tren so much but il take ur guys word for it and save it for later.

deca is once per week, its simple. and you will not get erectile dysfunction unless you go crazy with the dosage. in fact, my libido increased on test/deca.

no one hates tren, its just a more advanced compound and can have very harsh sides. not recommended for beginners. and i dont ever plan on using it actually but who knows, later down the road i may change my mind. Deca is amazing though..

 

[Kman61]

You have been given excellent direction. Tren E or A either one... not the best choice for a second cycle. The sides and the way it hits can get out of control quickly if you are not prepared for them.

I happen to love Test and Deca and have great runs with it logged. I have shifted gears over the years and now lean toward smoother longer developing AAS that yields for me a more stable gain. But Deca/Test remains in my arsenal.

 

[DylanGemelli]

You have been given excellent direction. Tren E or A either one... not the best choice for a second cycle. The sides and the way it hits can get out of control quickly if you are not prepared for them.

I happen to love Test and Deca and have great runs with it logged. I have shifted gears over the years and now lean toward smoother longer developing AAS that yields for me a more stable gain. But Deca/Test remains in my arsenal.

i completely agree... its a cant miss combo if its ran properly... we definitely view this the same...

 

[MasterMason]

It just frustrates me when i talk to some guys at my gym and they tell me that they are on their first cycle and doing tren, or taking winstrol only and getting insane results.

 

[MasterMason]

noone here hates tren at all... noone said that or implied that at any time and there are an abundance of tren users here but people are trying to ensure you do all of this the right way instead of rushing it as you are trying to do... you don't have to worry about deca issues whatsoever if you run it properly at the right dose with the right protection... if your want to try eq, thats a great option as well... YOU COULD run test, npp, eq and tbol... i have a sick layout for you...

1-16 test cyp 250 mg week
1-16 eq 800 mg week
1-12 npp 100 mg eod
1-18 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-12 caber .5 mg e3d
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 cycle assist
1-16 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
15-18 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 19-22

clomid 50/50/25/25

nolva 40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod

mk-2866 25 mg day

gw-501516 20 mg day

If i drop the npp, can i also then drop the caber?