Bulking cycle with tren

[memnoch]

Hey fellas im 43 yo. Im 206 lbs 5'11 16%bf. Im looking to bulk while cutting bf. i have done 2 cycles using test deca dbol anavar. Of course not at the same time. I was looking to do. I liked deca it helps with joints.
1 - 14 test 800
1 - 12 deca 600
1 - 5/6 dbol 50 mg
4 - 13 tren a 75 eod
15 - 16 prop 150 eod
1 -16 arimidex.5 eod
1 -16 caber.5 2xweek


How does this look? All help is welcome. I can make any changes if need be?

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[jcoutts91]

Yeah bro no deca and tren two nandros are a no go

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[JackSteel]

You're BF is WAY too high to be bulking firstly. Secondly your doses are sky high and you don't need anything close to those doses. You need to drop below 15% and even lower ideally before you bulk to be safer and healthier and avoid certain side effects. Try test 400 and deca 300 BUT NOT until you cut down the BF man. Also the tren doesn't work in there unless you really cut down doses. Tren with deca can be done but you need to really dial down doses and know what you're doing. I wouldn't recommend it to just anyone. Also no dbol with tren. Honestly I'd scrap the whole thing and do test and deca only for your third cycle but like I said your BF is too high to recommend a cycle.


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[buen]

Hey fellas im 43 yo. Im 206 lbs 5'11 16%bf. Im looking to bulk while cutting bf. i have done 2 cycles using test deca dbol anavar. Of course not at the same time. I was looking to do. I liked deca it helps with joints.
1 - 14 test 800
1 - 12 deca 600
1 - 5/6 dbol 50 mg
4 - 13 tren a 75 eod
15 - 16 prop 150 eod
1 -16 arimidex.5 eod
1 -16 caber.5 2xweek


How does this look? All help is welcome. I can make any changes if need be?

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tough love time bro
you need a reality check
16% BF is too high for aas use..and certainly too high for tren
you would NEVER "bulk" at 16%
I have no clue what bulk while cutting even means....do you mean recomp?
Even IF you were in better shape...800mg test, 600mg deca?...get real..that's DOUBLE the max required
300-400mg test and 200-300mg deca will give you all the gains you want without causing bloat, deca dick and a host of other unwanted sides

you need to tune up your diet and training...maybe do a sarms cutting stack...then think about a test/deca recomp cycle
cheers

 

[Gymjunkie38]

Honestly bro this cycle is a train wreck 12 weeks is too short for deca and 2 progesterones together is advanced cycle most guys cant tolerate it I can but wouldnt run them at full mass like that id run the deca at about 250 300 tops and the tren at 200 tops when running them together and thats only after I was sure I was not sensitive too prolactin issues and tolerate both very well . also why go with ace on a bulk and all other long esters just make s for too much sticking yourself save the short esters for cutting and short cycles .and all that prop for only 2 weeks at the end while the other test is still in your system your going too bloat like hell peak test level will be over a gram and a half . take this back too the drawing board .
If you tolerate them together some love it most do not so you need to know your self first but If I was gonna run them together it would go like this

Test e 500 1 -16
Deca 300 1- 16
Drol 50 mg 1- 4
Tren e 250 5 -16
Aromisn 1-23
Caber .5 twice a week
Hcg 1000 ius 16 -19
Clomid 50/50/25/25 week 19 -23
Nolvadex 25/25/25/25 week 19 -23

 

[Gymjunkie38]

And chances are you.have no bussiness running them together

 

[memnoch]

Ok i will re think the whole think its good that i asked before anything. I always get good info here and as gymjunkie proposed i will think of going with his propsed cycle

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[Testdude63]

Yeah, that looks like a bad idea... Get down to around 12% (at the highest for starting a bulk IMO) and then decide what to do from there. Do some research. Your doses are unwarranted, and the layout seems a bit scattered.

 

[RickRock]

Hey fellas im 43 yo. Im 206 lbs 5'11 16%bf. Im looking to bulk while cutting bf. i have done 2 cycles using test deca dbol anavar. Of course not at the same time. I was looking to do. I liked deca it helps with joints.
1 - 14 test 800
1 - 12 deca 600
1 - 5/6 dbol 50 mg
4 - 13 tren a 75 eod
15 - 16 prop 150 eod
1 -16 arimidex.5 eod
1 -16 caber.5 2xweek


How does this look? All help is welcome. I can make any changes if need be?

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Bulking while cutting bodyfat? That doesn't make sense brother. Right now you just need to cut your bodyfat and work on that. Your bodyfat is too high already to be cycling.

I think you should run a good sarms stack to cut, then you can run a good cycle like you want to after that. For now, I propose you run this sarms stack to help you shred up

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1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)

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Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day



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[Gymjunkie38]

Ok i will re think the whole think its good that i asked before anything. I always get good info here and as gymjunkie proposed i will think of going with his propsed cycle

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My proposed is for info only I highly doubt your ready for that it was an example as too hpw I would run it your pn your 3rd cycle Id stick too one nandro pref deca

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[Gymjunkie38]

And not too be mean bro but recomp takes a precise diet very strict planning not enough food no growth too much fat gain not even just calories all macros need too be dialed in and its differant for everyone you need too know your body very well too pull it off. If youve done 2 cycles already and still at 16 percent bodyfat you are not anywhere near having your diet in check . if 4th ou want a tren cycle how about a tren test only run and focus on steadynfat loss not hard core cutting bit stay in a decent 5 to700 calorie deficit and youll still build a little muscle time your carbs around training go only protien at night and protien and your fats at breakfast . get lean then build from there.

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[memnoch]

Your totally correct gj. Im going to re evaluate everything and take it back to the drawing board. Thank u for all the valuable info.

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[drb_iac]

Hey fellas im 43 yo. Im 206 lbs 5'11 16%bf. Im looking to bulk while cutting bf. i have done 2 cycles using test deca dbol anavar. Of course not at the same time. I was looking to do. I liked deca it helps with joints.
1 - 14 test 800
1 - 12 deca 600
1 - 5/6 dbol 50 mg
4 - 13 tren a 75 eod
15 - 16 prop 150 eod
1 -16 arimidex.5 eod
1 -16 caber.5 2xweek


How does this look? All help is welcome. I can make any changes if need be?

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whoa bro. You need to get some of the fat off before running a cycle...and when you do run a cycle you do not need that much test, and certainly not that much deca.AND if you add tren that is about 300mgs/week +deca @600mgs/week=900mgs week nandros...you will most certainly be screwing yourself up

 

[RickRock]

Your totally correct gj. Im going to re evaluate everything and take it back to the drawing board. Thank u for all the valuable info.

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We can help,you get that cycle right. You just need to cut and get that bodyfat down before anything, which is why I really recommend running the sarms stack I proposed to get your BF down. That would help you tremendously with that.

Then you can run your cycle, with some tweaks here and there to make it better. Right now you just have way too much in there and especially with high doses of Deca which is completely unnecessary.


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[memnoch]

Ok thank you rick i will do that. Deca is in there for joint support. I will drop my bf and will do that sarm cycle you proposed

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[drb_iac]

Ok thank you rick i will do that. Deca is in there for joint support. I will drop my bf and will do that sarm cycle you proposed

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When it is time for your cycle we will have the deca in there.Focus on the present for now

 

[DylanGemelli]

Ok thank you rick i will do that. Deca is in there for joint support. I will drop my bf and will do that sarm cycle you proposed

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bro, i have to tell you something seriously... im impressed and you earned a shitload of respect from me for sure... you listened to what everyone said... you didnt bitch and moan and come up with every excuse under the sun etc... you showed maturity and most of all CARE FOR YOURSELF.. I FUCKING LOVE THAT SO MUCH you have no clue... that makes me far more apt to go out of my way to help you... now, my recommendation is similar to that of rick... START with the sarms stack, get your body fat down and then we move forward... we take it in the right steps with precision and by doing this right, we increase your longevity, your ability to achieve and your overall sense of well being... IN THE FUTURE, understand when you start stacking nandrolones there's a FINE line and i mean a FINE one... your asking for big problems running them at higher doses... i would be extremely hesitant to go over 400-500 mg a week of nadrolone so that means if your using deca at 200 then i would definitely not exceed 300 of tren but i would highly recommend leaving it at 200/200 otherwise your likely to run into problems that i assure you, you wont want... regardless, thats a future discussion... FOR NOW, here is what i would highly recommend... its the ultra super stack... https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/ultra-super-stack-12weeks?sort=p.price&order=DESC


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1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[memnoch]

Hey dylan whats up. Im also glad to hear what everyone's opinion is. Im here to learn from whos been there done that. I take all info and guidance to the fullest. I will be doing that proposed sarms stack to bring down bf. All info i received from previous cycles with your input has led me to great gains. I may just drop the whole idea of tren for my next and possibly use winstrol would that be ok. Thanks for everyones insight and help.

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[DylanGemelli]

Hey dylan whats up. Im also glad to hear what everyone's opinion is. Im here to learn from whos been there done that. I take all info and guidance to the fullest. I will be doing that proposed sarms stack to bring down bf. All info i received from previous cycles with your input has led me to great gains. I may just drop the whole idea of tren for my next and possibly use winstrol would that be ok. Thanks for everyones insight and help.

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absolutely brother... winstrol will be fine to substitute... or if you want to run tren we can implement sarms healing stacks for your cycle... either way... its a win win... we will focus on that about half way through the sarms stack... we will check your progress, revisit your goals and go from there... you just cant bulk when your 15% bro... you need to be down in that 12% range or it just doesnt make sense... i am happy to help as much as possible... we will get you there bro...

 

[drb_iac]

Hey dylan whats up. Im also glad to hear what everyone's opinion is. Im here to learn from whos been there done that. I take all info and guidance to the fullest. I will be doing that proposed sarms stack to bring down bf. All info i received from previous cycles with your input has led me to great gains. I may just drop the whole idea of tren for my next and possibly use winstrol would that be ok. Thanks for everyones insight and help.

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We are glad you are paying attention, and asking good questions.Your future begins right now.Get the fat off first. When it is cycle time we will guide you thru that too but better to have tren on the back burner. You have to figure out your nandro tolerance as D pointed out, and it is better to determine that after you have lots of experience under your belt. For now get going!!