Blood test sensitive e2

[Maximus PC]

Gearing up for my next blast after a minor surgery (vasectomy) and obviously being totally off everything for the last 2-3 months so I can get accurate sperm count post op.


Ive ordered some blood tests to see where i am currently at totally clean (and feeling like crap overall) then ill do every 3-4 weeks initially.


My question is, does e2 RATIO change with higher doses test or is the ratio remain the same, ideally?



hypothetically trt guy on 200mg cyp/wk has xyz optimum test numbers and apparently the e2 should land in the low 20's somewhere. Where would it IDEALLY be if someone is taking 500 750 or 1gm?

 

[IND]

Ideally, your E2 should always be in range if you are using the proper AI's and dosing them right. Not sure I'm understanding the ?

 

[jp1957]

hypothetically trt guy on 200mg cyp/wk has xyz optimum test numbers and apparently the e2 should land in the low 20's somewhere. Where would it IDEALLY be if someone is taking 500 750 or 1gm?

estrogen level, is estrogen level, whether you are 44 and mainlining test, or someone on TRT.

20-42 is the normal range, some people can take higher estrogen levels, some (like me) cant.

Now with more massive doses of test, you'll need higher or more frequent doses of an AI.

 

[RickRock]

Gearing up for my next blast after a minor surgery (vasectomy) and obviously being totally off everything for the last 2-3 months so I can get accurate sperm count post op.


Ive ordered some blood tests to see where i am currently at totally clean (and feeling like crap overall) then ill do every 3-4 weeks initially.


My question is, does e2 RATIO change with higher doses test or is the ratio remain the same, ideally?



hypothetically trt guy on 200mg cyp/wk has xyz optimum test numbers and apparently the e2 should land in the low 20's somewhere. Where would it IDEALLY be if someone is taking 500 750 or 1gm?

Your estrogen should fall in the 20-35 range regardless of test level, so if you are in high levels of test the ratio is obviouosly much different than TRT.

I don't really understand your question. Estrogen always should fall in the same zone


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[Maximus PC]

You guys nailed what i was asking.

I wasnt sure (because of so much conflicting data) if the test was indicative of a ratio parts/ or if it was a solid number range.

Meaning is it always that range or if the range changes going super-physiological or not.

I appreciate the info

 

[jp1957]

that range is where you want it. All that changes as I said above, was the amount and frequency of an AI as test aromatizes and your estrogen will spike if not dealt with.

And trust me, you dont wanna get a high Estrogen hit, I was curled up into a ball for a week, took me another 3 weeks to get over it.

 

[Maximus PC]

that range is where you want it. All that changes as I said above, was the amount and frequency of an AI as test aromatizes and your estrogen will spike if not dealt with.

And trust me, you dont wanna get a high Estrogen hit, I was curled up into a ball for a week, took me another 3 weeks to get over it.

I struggle with it even off. Not the emotional aspect as much as fat gain, general soreness, lowered libido, and overall feeling completely dumb and forgetful.


What is the best protocol on getting it managed out right? Meaning, once a week, every other week etc? Seems it would get expensive pretty fast

 

[RickRock]

I struggle with it even off. Not the emotional aspect as much as fat gain, general soreness, lowered libido, and overall feeling completely dumb and forgetful.


What is the best protocol on getting it managed out right? Meaning, once a week, every other week etc? Seems it would get expensive pretty fast

The amount of AI to use is completely dependent on the amount of test you are running. You adjust your dose accordingly based on that


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[DylanGemelli]

unfortunately, there is no real cookie cutter dose bro... for instance, i have to use far more than rick does... rick has little to no estrogen sides EVER and he can run a fucking gram of test and barely even need arimidex... if i run 500 mg of test, i fucking need 25 mg every damn day of aromasin... YOU have to dial it in brother... you have to determine that through bloodwork...

 

[Maximus PC]

unfortunately, there is no real cookie cutter dose bro... for instance, i have to use far more than rick does... rick has little to no estrogen sides EVER and he can run a fucking gram of test and barely even need arimidex... if i run 500 mg of test, i fucking need 25 mg every damn day of aromasin... YOU have to dial it in brother... you have to determine that through bloodwork...

I understand. How often to dial it in? I have never had it right EVER, and I am determined to get it on point.

How much does homeostasis play a role in the blood work? Ive read around and a lot of people are talking that at week 8, unless you add, up your dose, your'e back to "normal" as far as growth is concerned.

 

[DylanGemelli]

I understand. How often to dial it in? I have never had it right EVER, and I am determined to get it on point.

How much does homeostasis play a role in the blood work? Ive read around and a lot of people are talking that at week 8, unless you add, up your dose, your'e back to "normal" as far as growth is concerned.

you know brother, i wish i could say it takes a year or a month or a day etc. to dial it in but it also depends on the compounds ran, the doses, the lengths etc... i know for me, pretty much anything over 200 mg week of test, i FOR SURE need to dose aromasin nearly every day... now with anadrol this time, i needed more... 25 mg per day but thats JUST ME... quality of your ai also plays a role... there's a lot to it.. you need to get pre cycle bloods, then do it again mid... thats how you determine if what your doing is actually working well or not and then you tweak accordingly from there...

as far as growth goes.. well, look at my log and you tell me if i stopped growing at 8 weeks... im still getting size, not nearly as much as initially but im still adding bits and pieces and im nearly double 8 weeks... for instance, eq does not even really get going until week 8 or 9 bro...