blast and cruise question

[JackSteel]

Way too much nandralone in there for my liking bro. I would expect ED issues with that cycle. I would try maybe 200 deca/200 tren with that much test personally


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[JackSteel]

Bro..first off welcome to the forums

A bit of tough love for you...200-250mg/wk is most probably putting your blood serum level above 1500ng/dl
Have you checked? what was your natural test level?
What is your level running 250mg?

Long term elevation of testosterone (above 1500ng/dL) ISN'T TRT....it's a permanent cycle!
you run the risk of long term permanent damage to your endocrine system
It's short sighted...for what gain? not having to PCT???

Even if you drop your TRT (cruise) to below 1500ng/dL
there are a 1000 reasons NOT to cruise
when you "shut down" you aren't just stopping test production...you are altering the whole endocrine system
you alter/change/stop production of up to 300 other hormones...including pituatary gland thyroid gland,pineal gland and pancreas
NATURAL PRODUCTION OF TEST IS AN INTRICATE COMPLICATED SYSTEM>>>don't mess with mother nature unless it your course of last resort
I've been on TRT for 15yrs...first few years were great...then subtle changes start and the body DOES NOT REACT THE SAME
10 years in and it becomes a real challenge to keep everything on track
loss of libido can happen even when you increase the trt dose...antibiotics don't work the same...a score of different changes happen

NOTHING BEATS NATURAL TEST....TRT only replaces testosterone... a small fraction of the ecosystem your messing with

Totally true. I tend to need some other androgen to keep my sex drive normal these days. It's more complicated than just shitting down test. Buen is on point.


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[krasegors]

ED really?! ive been running this for about 6 weeks and that couldn't farther from the true for me. I bang my girl twice daily and still jerk off sometimes just to keep my raging boners down lol

 

[buen]

sorry should have been more clear.

6'3 260lbs 15% BF( was 250 when i started. im blessed with pretty good genetics and im naturally a big and strong guy)

and yes this is technically my 2nd cycle that ive been on since September but ive only blasted once.

i get blood work done periodically. here are my results after being on test for over 8 months


CBC With Differential/Platelet
WBC 7.3 3.4 - 10.8 x10E3/uL 01
RBC 5.87H 4.14 - 5.80 x10E6/uL 01
Hemoglobin 16.3 12.6 - 17.7 g/dL 01
Hematocrit 48.9 37.5 - 51.0 % 01
MCV 83 79 - 97 fL 01
MCH 27.8 26.6 - 33.0 pg 01
MCHC 33.3 31.5 - 35.7 g/dL 01
RDW 15.5H 12.3 - 15.4 % 01
Platelets 200 150 - 379 x10E3/uL 01
Neutrophils 53 % 01
Lymphs 35 % 01
Monocytes 10 % 01
Eos 2 % 01
Basos 0 % 01
Immature Cells 01
Neutrophils (Absolute) 3.8 1.4 - 7.0 x10E3/uL 01
Lymphs (Absolute) 2.6 0.7 - 3.1 x10E3/uL 01
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.7 0.1 - 0.9 x10E3/uL 01
Eos (Absolute) 0.2 0.0 - 0.4 x10E3/uL 01
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0 - 0.2 x10E3/uL 01
Immature Granulocytes 0 % 01
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0 - 0.1 x10E3/uL 01
NRBC n/a* 01
* Results cancelled due to non-performance
Hematology Comments: 01
Accession No.: 13449400500
Status: FINAL
Collected: 05/13/2016 10:48 am
Completed: 05/16/2016 8:13 pm
Test Name Value Reference Range Loc
Lipid Panel
Cholesterol, Total 145 100 - 199 mg/dL 01
Triglycerides 60 0 - 149 mg/dL 01
HDL Cholesterol 47 >39 mg/dL 01
According to ATP-III Guidelines, HDL-C >59 mg/dL is considered a
negative risk factor for CHD.
VLDL Cholesterol Cal 12 5 - 40 mg/dL 01
LDL Cholesterol Calc 86 0 - 99 mg/dL 01
Comment: n/a* 01
* Results cancelled due to non-performance
Accession No.: 13449400500
Status: FINAL
Collected: 05/13/2016 10:48 am
Completed: 05/16/2016 8:13 pm

So where are your hormone panel results?
Testosterone
Free Test
Estradiol
Protactin
Cortisol
SHBG

Test 750mg/wk on a 2nd cycle??? totally not needed...and my god...running it at 15% BF!
675mg/wk total nandralone...so very reckless
Tren on a second cycle....I just don't get it bro
Seriously...you state that health is paramount but you are running you cycle
completely contrary to tried and true protocols that are meant to keep you safe and healthy
It's not the safe and sane approach
Please...for your health sake get a hormone panel done IMMEDIATELY
you need to know where your prolactin and estradiol levels are

my best advise to you is
lower your test to 350mg/wk
run deca 350mg/wk or less

 

[buen]

ED really?! ive been running this for about 6 weeks and that couldn't farther from the true for me. I bang my girl twice daily and still jerk off sometimes just to keep my raging boners down lol

yes...and when it hits you like a freight train you'll be wondering WTF
how you FEEL isn't enough...YOU NEED TO CLOSELY MONITOR YOUR PROLACTIN AND ESTRADIOL
you can only do that thru blood work

 

[krasegors]

I take caber and Arimidex and i feel great. haven't experienced a single side effect. no bloating, no ED, minimal acne, and im full of energy. ill get blood work done after i finish my blast late august after my meet. maybe then ill really consider coming completely off

 

[buen]

I take caber and Arimidex and i feel great. haven't experienced a single side effect. no bloating, no ED, minimal acne, and im full of energy. ill get blood work done after i finish my blast late august after my meet. maybe then ill really consider coming completely off

Bro...you just don't get it!

the way you feel is meaningless ...when prolactin hits you it comes out of nowwhere without warning
why the fuck wouldn't you get blood work done???
It's cheap and easy...it's as much a part of cycling as PCT....pre..mid and post cycle blood work is the bare MINIMUM
I'm currently running a cycle with deca and tren....I get blood work every 10 days...its the only way to dial in ancillaries

I really don't get it...its just all talk about being safe and healthy...your actions show you have NO COMMITMENT to those goals

 

[krasegors]

i guess ive been misinformed. i thought that if i ran caber at 0.5 every 3-4 days i shouldnt even worry about prolactin issues

 

[buen]

i guess ive been misinformed. i thought that if i ran caber at 0.5 every 3-4 days i shouldnt even worry about prolactin issues

that's insane...those are guidelines to show you where to start...you need to do blood work to confirm their effectiveness...and adjust UP OR DOWN as needed

 

[buen]

Dylan is as experienced and knowledgeable as they come...this year he tried running 500mg/wk combine nandralones and was unable to keep prolactin in control at any dose

 

[MP2018]

yes...and when it hits you like a freight train you'll be wondering WTF
how you FEEL isn't enough...YOU NEED TO CLOSELY MONITOR YOUR PROLACTIN AND ESTRADIOL
you can only do that thru blood work

What do you mean it hits you like a freight train? Just curious to hear what the symptoms are.

 

[krasegors]

i get what you're saying and im not trying to argue but aren't we all different as well? i have a friend who cant run 250mg of test without getting immediate nipple flair ups and me personally was able to come off a 16 week cycle of 500mg of test by only using clomid @ 50mg daily for 4 weeks. i recovered very well and kept 70% of my gains

what im saying is that i know my body and im more resilient towards these type of issues than others. like i said, ive been on this for almost 7 weeks and still havent experienced a single issue yet.

 

[RickRock]

What do you mean it hits you like a freight train? Just curious to hear what the symptoms are.

Erectile dysfunction, bad libido, bitch tits, lactation, and other not so fun stuff

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[buen]

Milk suddenly dripping out of you nipples....you feel like death
Complete loss of libido

Krasegors
Your wording was a bit unclear....re: TrenA are you pinning that once a week?

 

[MP2018]

Erectile dysfunction, bad libido, bitch tits, lactation, and other not so fun stuff

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Yikes! Lots of fun. Fortunately I've never had an issue but I've always keep ed dosages low and had good blood work

 

[krasegors]

im running tren ace at 100mg EOD

 

[buen]

im running tren ace at 100mg EOD

Thanks for clearing that up

 

[44YOGearHead]

mine like corn kernals sadly, LOLLL

Like small hairy brussel sprouts sauteed in garlic butter and thyme. Definitely a taste worthy of only select fine eating establishments.

 

[krasegors]

thank you, buen!

 

[buen]

thank you, buen!

Bro....as you know it's your life and you make your own decisions and will have to live with the consequences
But please do it with eyes wide open and fully informed....don't fool yourself
The course you are now on isn't remote compatible with health and longevity
My brother...please be well