Aromasin Question #2

[drachola]

Dylan,

Can you please take a look at my Bloodwork. I posted this on another thread but, it's long and it got burried.

The only results that are High or Low are: (full workup below)
AST (SGOT) High 77 HIGH 0-40 IU/L 01
ALT (SGPT) High 58 HIGH 0-44 IU/L 01
Testosterone High 2663 HIGH 348-1197 ng/dL 01
Luteinizing Hormone (LH), S Low LH <0.2 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL 01
FSH Serum Low 0.2 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL 01
Estradiol High 68.9 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL 01

I'm 4 weeks into my cyp/proviron cycle. I'm pinning cyp twice a week @ 350mg's a week. I'm only running my proviron @ 25 mgs a day right now. I'm taking 10mg's of aromasin eod. I feel a little achy and tired and I'm wondering if I'm taking my aromasin too often. It's not terrible but, I feel it. It feels a little like the flu without the fever.

Stats
52 years old
213lbs
13-15% BF
This is not my first cycle but, I haven't done any gear in a few years.
I've been weight training consistently for 30 years.
I'm on a 5 day routine and do 15-20 minutes of cardio 5 days a week (stationary bike).

Test Name Result Flag Reference Range Lab
CBC With Differential/Platelet
WBC 6.8 3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL 01
RBC 4.94 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL 01
Hemoglobin 15.7 12.6-17.7 g/dL 01
Hematocrit 46.1 37.5-51.0 % 01
MCV 93 79-97 fL 01
MCH 31.8 26.6-33.0 pg 01
MCHC 34.1 31.5-35.7 g/dL 01
RDW 14.3 12.3-15.4 % 01
Platelets 152 150-379 x10E3/uL 01
Neutrophils 62 % 01
Lymphs 25 % 01
Monocytes 11 % 01
Eos 2 % 01
Basos 0 % 01
Neutrophils (Absolute) 4.2 1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL 01
Lymphs (Absolute) 1.7 0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL 01
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.8 0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL 01
Eos (Absolute) 0.1 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL 01
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL 01
Immature Granulocytes 0 % 01
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL 01
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 93 65-99 mg/dL 01
BUN 16 6-24 mg/dL 01
Creatinine, Serum 1.02 0.76-1.27 mg/dL 01
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 84 >59 mL/min/1.73 01
eGFR If Africn Am 97 >59 mL/min/1.73 01
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 16 9-20 01
Sodium, Serum 142 134-144 mmol/L 01
Potassium, Serum 4.0 3.5-5.2 mmol/L 01
Chloride, Serum 101 97-108 mmol/L 01
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 18-29 mmol/L 01
Calcium, Serum 9.4 8.7-10.2 mg/dL 01
Protein, Total, Serum 6.4 6.0-8.5 g/dL 01
Albumin, Serum 4.3 3.5-5.5 g/dL 01
Globulin, Total 2.1 1.5-4.5 g/dL 01
A/G Ratio 2.0 1.1-2.5 01
Bilirubin, Total 0.8 0.0-1.2 mg/dL 01
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 48 39-117 IU/L 01
AST (SGOT) 77 HIGH 0-40 IU/L 01
ALT (SGPT) 58 HIGH 0-44 IU/L 01
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum 2663 HIGH 348-1197 ng/dL 01
Results confirmed on
dilution.
Comment: Comment 01
Adult male reference interval is based on a population of lean males
up to 40 years old.
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH <0.2 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL 01
1 of 2
FSH, Serum
FSH <0.2 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL 01
Estradiol
Estradiol 68.9 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL 01
Roche ECLIA methodology

 

[MaxxPursuit]

Your Estrogen actually looks quite high at 68.9 so I would not decrease your aromasin. If anything, you need to increase your dose to get your estrogen back in control there bud.

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[MaxxPursuit]

Are you taking anything that could affect your AST and ALT? They're high. You should get on some liver support if you have not already to help get those values back in control.

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[DylanGemelli]

Dylan,

Can you please take a look at my Bloodwork. I posted this on another thread but, it's long and it got burried.

The only results that are High or Low are: (full workup below)
AST (SGOT) High 77 HIGH 0-40 IU/L 01
ALT (SGPT) High 58 HIGH 0-44 IU/L 01
Testosterone High 2663 HIGH 348-1197 ng/dL 01
Luteinizing Hormone (LH), S Low LH <0.2 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL 01
FSH Serum Low 0.2 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL 01
Estradiol High 68.9 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL 01

I'm 4 weeks into my cyp/proviron cycle. I'm pinning cyp twice a week @ 350mg's a week. I'm only running my proviron @ 25 mgs a day right now. I'm taking 10mg's of aromasin eod. I feel a little achy and tired and I'm wondering if I'm taking my aromasin too often. It's not terrible but, I feel it. It feels a little like the flu without the fever.

Stats
52 years old
213lbs
13-15% BF
This is not my first cycle but, I haven't done any gear in a few years.
I've been weight training consistently for 30 years.
I'm on a 5 day routine and do 15-20 minutes of cardio 5 days a week (stationary bike).

Test Name Result Flag Reference Range Lab
CBC With Differential/Platelet
WBC 6.8 3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL 01
RBC 4.94 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL 01
Hemoglobin 15.7 12.6-17.7 g/dL 01
Hematocrit 46.1 37.5-51.0 % 01
MCV 93 79-97 fL 01
MCH 31.8 26.6-33.0 pg 01
MCHC 34.1 31.5-35.7 g/dL 01
RDW 14.3 12.3-15.4 % 01
Platelets 152 150-379 x10E3/uL 01
Neutrophils 62 % 01
Lymphs 25 % 01
Monocytes 11 % 01
Eos 2 % 01
Basos 0 % 01
Neutrophils (Absolute) 4.2 1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL 01
Lymphs (Absolute) 1.7 0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL 01
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.8 0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL 01
Eos (Absolute) 0.1 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL 01
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL 01
Immature Granulocytes 0 % 01
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL 01
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 93 65-99 mg/dL 01
BUN 16 6-24 mg/dL 01
Creatinine, Serum 1.02 0.76-1.27 mg/dL 01
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 84 >59 mL/min/1.73 01
eGFR If Africn Am 97 >59 mL/min/1.73 01
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 16 9-20 01
Sodium, Serum 142 134-144 mmol/L 01
Potassium, Serum 4.0 3.5-5.2 mmol/L 01
Chloride, Serum 101 97-108 mmol/L 01
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 18-29 mmol/L 01
Calcium, Serum 9.4 8.7-10.2 mg/dL 01
Protein, Total, Serum 6.4 6.0-8.5 g/dL 01
Albumin, Serum 4.3 3.5-5.5 g/dL 01
Globulin, Total 2.1 1.5-4.5 g/dL 01
A/G Ratio 2.0 1.1-2.5 01
Bilirubin, Total 0.8 0.0-1.2 mg/dL 01
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 48 39-117 IU/L 01
AST (SGOT) 77 HIGH 0-40 IU/L 01
ALT (SGPT) 58 HIGH 0-44 IU/L 01
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum 2663 HIGH 348-1197 ng/dL 01
Results confirmed on
dilution.
Comment: Comment 01
Adult male reference interval is based on a population of lean males
up to 40 years old.
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH <0.2 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL 01
1 of 2
FSH, Serum
FSH <0.2 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL 01
Estradiol
Estradiol 68.9 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL 01
Roche ECLIA methodology

bro your estrogen is very high... its not just slightly out of range... clearly armomasin is not what the issue here in terms of needing to take less... you would be achy from drying out etc. but that's CLEARY not the case here... in fact, the complete opposite... your either not taking enough or its not the best quality or its being mis dosed... its one of the three... where did you get your aromasin? have you ran anything previous to this cycle? have you had blodwork before? as maxx pointed out, your liver values are very bad as well... have you ran other orals? there's some concerns on here...things are not slightly out of range here... they need addressed now bro

 

[drachola]

bro your estrogen is very high... its not just slightly out of range... clearly armomasin is not what the issue here in terms of needing to take less... you would be achy from drying out etc. but that's CLEARY not the case here... in fact, the complete opposite... your either not taking enough or its not the best quality or its being mis dosed... its one of the three... where did you get your aromasin? have you ran anything previous to this cycle? have you had bloodwork before? as maxx pointed out, your liver values are very bad as well... have you ran other orals? there's some concerns on here...things are not slightly out of range here... they need addressed now bro

1. I got my Aromasin from Purity Source Labs.
2. I have not run anything previous to this cycle. My last cycle was years ago and there were no orals. I did do some anadrol back in the early 90's...that's it.
3. I have had bloodwork recently but, it was just for a regular physical and everything was ok.
4. I had my bloodpressure done when I had my last bloodwork (last week) done and it was 111/70.

Should I order some aromasin from another source? If so...I'll need help with that. Could the proviron do this? Could alcohol do this? I was on vacation the week before and had some wine and beer. My labido is an 8 out of 10. That's high for me. What about water intake? Could not enough water contribute to this? I don't feel bad but, now I'm worried.

Thank you,
DDD

 

[DylanGemelli]

1. I got my Aromasin from Purity Source Labs.
2. I have not run anything previous to this cycle. My last cycle was years ago and there were no orals. I did do some anadrol back in the early 90's...that's it.
3. I have had bloodwork recently but, it was just for a regular physical and everything was ok.
4. I had my bloodpressure done when I had my last bloodwork (last week) done and it was 111/70.

Should I order some aromasin from another source? If so...I'll need help with that. Could the proviron do this? Could alcohol do this? I was on vacation the week before and had some wine and beer. My labido is an 8 out of 10. That's high for me. What about water intake? Could not enough water contribute to this? I don't feel bad but, now I'm worried.

Thank you,
DDD

1. it definitely could be the product then

2. do you drink? what ALL are you taking right now?

3. ok well then it makes it more difficult to pin point the problem but we have to do our best

4. thats good bro, thats a good result but that has nothing to do with the other points i brought up??? so im confused what that pertains to


Proviron has anti estrogen properties... it helps to LOWER estrogen, so absolutely not would it be proviron... Alcohol absolutely man... are you serious? it wrecks your liver but you would need to be drinking quite often... lack of water would hurt your kidneys but it would not skew your liver values this much... brother listen, im not calling you a liar but you dont just get liver values like that... your doing something you either dont realize or are not saying... it doesn't just get that high without a lot of help...

yes, i would replace your aromasin... here is a link to get some quality aromasin... https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

take one full dropper per day to start... do this 7-10 days, then scale it down to every other day... how much of your cycle do you have left? what is the complete cycle? what does your pct look like?

 

[drachola]

1. it definitely could be the product then

2. do you drink? what ALL are you taking right now?

3. ok well then it makes it more difficult to pin point the problem but we have to do our best

4. thats good bro, thats a good result but that has nothing to do with the other points i brought up??? so im confused what that pertains to


Proviron has anti estrogen properties... it helps to LOWER estrogen, so absolutely not would it be proviron... Alcohol absolutely man... are you serious? it wrecks your liver but you would need to be drinking quite often... lack of water would hurt your kidneys but it would not skew your liver values this much... brother listen, im not calling you a liar but you dont just get liver values like that... your doing something you either dont realize or are not saying... it doesn't just get that high without a lot of help...

yes, i would replace your aromasin... here is a link to get some quality aromasin... https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

take one full dropper per day to start... do this 7-10 days, then scale it down to every other day... how much of your cycle do you have left? what is the complete cycle? what does your pct look like?

I'm not holding anything back. I was taking creatine but, I stopped the week before I started my cycle. When should I get my bloodwork redone? I'm surprised that my E2 levels are so high with such a low dose of cyp. Maybe I fucked myself by drinking while on vacation...super poor choice, I'm embarrassed.

Here is my cycle. I started on July 14th.
1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 10 mg eod
1-14 proviron 25 mg day

11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 10 mg eod

 

[DylanGemelli]

I'm not holding anything back. I was taking creatine but, I stopped the week before I started my cycle. When should I get my bloodwork redone? I'm surprised that my E2 levels are so high with such a low dose of cyp. Maybe I fucked myself by drinking while on vacation...super poor choice, I'm embarrassed.

Here is my cycle. I started on July 14th.
1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 10 mg eod
1-14 proviron 25 mg day

11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 10 mg eod

you didnt fuck yourself by drinking on vacation if that was the only time man.. unless you were drinking a bottle of hard liquor a night...

your cycle looks good except your pct is not complete and your aromasin dose is low... here is the link to the pct stack you need as well as the layout... also, you need to get the aromasin i recommended.. when was your last blood test done? here is the link and layout... https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[drachola]

you didnt fuck yourself by drinking on vacation if that was the only time man.. unless you were drinking a bottle of hard liquor a night...

your cycle looks good except your pct is not complete and your aromasin dose is low... here is the link to the pct stack you need as well as the layout... also, you need to get the aromasin i recommended.. when was your last blood test done? here is the link and layout... https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

My last blood test was taken on Monday and I got the results on Thu or Friday. I just ordered the aromasin from the link you sent me...done. I added liver protection yesterday on the advise from rockmfhudd. What sides should I be looking out for? My workouts are really good but, now I'm sweating every little thing.

How many mg's of aro is in a dropper?

 

[MaxxPursuit]

My last blood test was taken on Monday and I got the results on Thu or Friday. I just ordered the aromasin from the link you sent me...done. I added liver protection yesterday on the advise from rockmfhudd. What sides should I be looking out for? My workouts are really good but, now I'm sweating every little thing.

How many mg's of aro is in a dropper?

I believe SarmsX doses their Aromasin 15mg/ml so just go with 15mg eod. That little 2.5mg extra won't do much. The layout Dylan gave you is spot on. Some guys are just more sensitive to estrogen conversion so even at low doses like 350mg a week of test needs to be watched carefully with your AI. You got bloodwork done which was smart so now you know and can further dial in your dose.

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[drachola]

Thanks Everybody.

I'll up my dosage of aro and get my blood work done again in 2 weeks.

 

[DylanGemelli]

My last blood test was taken on Monday and I got the results on Thu or Friday. I just ordered the aromasin from the link you sent me...done. I added liver protection yesterday on the advise from rockmfhudd. What sides should I be looking out for? My workouts are really good but, now I'm sweating every little thing.

How many mg's of aro is in a dropper?

each dropper is 15 mg... thats perfect for what you want to be dosing right now... okay, lets get you on the new aromasin and wait a few weeks as you change the dosing protocol as i instructed and start using a higher quality product... i would go with tudca and milk thistle for your liver... drink PLENTY of water and make sure you sweat a lot... use the sauna 4-5 times a week... you will be fine if you do things as instructed brother... dont get all bent out shape in worry, just stay on the right path and do things right and we will help you get right back into range... let me know anytime you have questions bro...

 

[drachola]

each dropper is 15 mg... thats perfect for what you want to be dosing right now... okay, lets get you on the new aromasin and wait a few weeks as you change the dosing protocol as i instructed and start using a higher quality product... i would go with tudca and milk thistle for your liver... drink PLENTY of water and make sure you sweat a lot... use the sauna 4-5 times a week... you will be fine if you do things as instructed brother... dont get all bent out shape in worry, just stay on the right path and do things right and we will help you get right back into range... let me know anytime you have questions bro...

Don't worry Dylan...I won't get bent out of shape. I'm old enough to know I DON'T know everything. That's why I'm here. That's why I watch all of your videos. I feel like I'm chatting with a rock star...LOL

Thanks again,
DDD

 

[DylanGemelli]

Don't worry Dylan...I won't get bent out of shape. I'm old enough to know I DON'T know everything. That's why I'm here. That's why I watch all of your videos. I feel like I'm chatting with a rock star...LOL

Thanks again,
DDD

absolutely love your attitude man... i always have plenty of time for guys with your kind of attitude... you will be all good and end up in far better condition than you ever were bro...

 

[RickRock]

Thanks Everybody.

I'll up my dosage of aro and get my blood work done again in 2 weeks.

Glad you got the help you need bud....keep,us updated on how it all goes for you after bloodwork

 

[drachola]

Got my Liquid Aro in the mail today and immediately took one 15mg dropper right to the mouth. That stuff must be strong because I right away I had to drop a duce. Dylan...I'll keep on this course for a week and dial back to eod after that and get my BW done again. I went and got some milk thistle and tudca too. Been drinking a lot of water and sweating it out. Hopefully my bloods will be in line and I have one less thing to worry about. I'll report back after my BW.

FYI...still ache like I have the flu but, it's not bad.

Thank you Fellas!
DDD

 

[DylanGemelli]

Got my Liquid Aro in the mail today and immediately took one 15mg dropper right to the mouth. That stuff must be strong because I right away I had to drop a duce. Dylan...I'll keep on this course for a week and dial back to eod after that and get my BW done again. I went and got some milk thistle and tudca too. Been drinking a lot of water and sweating it out. Hopefully my bloods will be in line and I have one less thing to worry about. I'll report back after my BW.

FYI...still ache like I have the flu but, it's not bad.

Thank you Fellas!
DDD

excellent brother... keep us updated and let me know if you have any other questions at any time...

 

[drachola]

Well...it's been a while. I just wanted to circle back and say after all of the great advise I received, I got my bloods in line and finished my cycle a few weeks ago. I am now almost done with my PCT and I'm researching my next cycle. Nothing crazy....test based with a good hardner on the back end. Just wanted to say thank to Dylan and sorry I didn't followup sooner.

DDD

 

[MaxxPursuit]

Well...it's been a while. I just wanted to circle back and say after all of the great advise I received, I got my bloods in line and finished my cycle a few weeks ago. I am now almost done with my PCT and I'm researching my next cycle. Nothing crazy....test based with a good hardner on the back end. Just wanted to say thank to Dylan and sorry I didn't followup sooner.

DDD

Glad to hear everything is looking good bud. Happy we could help. If you ever have questions, all you have to do is ask.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Well...it's been a while. I just wanted to circle back and say after all of the great advise I received, I got my bloods in line and finished my cycle a few weeks ago. I am now almost done with my PCT and I'm researching my next cycle. Nothing crazy....test based with a good hardner on the back end. Just wanted to say thank to Dylan and sorry I didn't followup sooner.

DDD

its all good bro.. thanks for the update... let me know if you want help setting up a sarms bridge in between cycles..